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iRONic

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Jan 28, 2006
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Originally posted by: 91TTZ
Originally posted by: iRONic
Originally posted by: Delita
I think its funny that people think they other people can't be trained to do their job.
Care to troubleshoot why a twin turbine helicopter won't get 100% Nr?

Please let us know, since you're obviously the only person on Earth that can work on such an aircraft.
Nice try. A noob fresh out of A&P school won't be able to show up at the gate to clear a complicated squawk and have the flight go on time.

kthxbi
 

Raduque

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5-8 months, maybe. I am a crappy teacher.

My company takes 4 months to train somebody off the street to do my job. Real experience comes after about a year on the call floor.
 

Reckoner

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These threads are always full of shit, I don't even know why people bother creating them.

OMG! 5 Years Minimum! WTFBBQ!


Edit: Not to mention, half the clowns on ATOT spend most of their workday posting here. Yeah, it takes a lot of skill to open up Internet Explorer, WTG! Glad that degree came in useful!
 

MotionMan

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Originally posted by: PaulNEPats
These threads are always full of shit, I don't even know why people bother creating them.

OMG! 5 Years Minimum! WTFBBQ!


Edit: Not to mention, half the clowns on ATOT spend most of their workday posting here. Yeah, it takes a lot of skill to open up Internet Explorer, WTG! Glad that degree came in useful!

I assume that you may not be specifically referring to my post, but, how long do you think it takes to learn how to be an even a barely competent litigation attorney?

MotionMan, Esq.
 

91TTZ

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Jan 31, 2005
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Originally posted by: iRONic
Originally posted by: 91TTZ
Originally posted by: iRONic
Originally posted by: Delita
I think its funny that people think they other people can't be trained to do their job.
Care to troubleshoot why a twin turbine helicopter won't get 100% Nr?

Please let us know, since you're obviously the only person on Earth that can work on such an aircraft.
Nice try. A noob fresh out of A&P school won't be able to show up at the gate to clear a complicated squawk and have the flight go on time.

kthxbi

I was actually joking there, as I do have appreciation for skilled mechanical jobs that take years of experience to master.

It makes me laugh when I see kids fresh out of college claiming that someone wouldn't be able to do their job without years of preparation, while at the same time they look down upon people with blue collar jobs that often take years upon years to master.

A guy who chisels rock may not sound like an educated or skilled professional, but give a layman a chisel and see if he can make this.
 

Babbles

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I work as a research scientist doing analytical chemistry and I would say it would take five years, at least, to replace me. That being said I could probably train somebody with zero college with no background in the physical sciences, but it would take a while.

A lot of my job involves bringing previous experiences together to solve a new problem, which a lot of people do in various fields, but that is just not something you can simply 'teach' somebody. Rather they have to go through it.
 

tfinch2

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Originally posted by: PaulNEPats
These threads are always full of shit, I don't even know why people bother creating them.

OMG! 5 Years Minimum! WTFBBQ!


Edit: Not to mention, half the clowns on ATOT spend most of their workday posting here. Yeah, it takes a lot of skill to open up Internet Explorer, WTG! Glad that degree came in useful!

What do you do? (just curious, not flaming)
 

jw0ollard

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Originally posted by: tfinch2
Originally posted by: PaulNEPats
These threads are always full of shit, I don't even know why people bother creating them.

OMG! 5 Years Minimum! WTFBBQ!


Edit: Not to mention, half the clowns on ATOT spend most of their workday posting here. Yeah, it takes a lot of skill to open up Internet Explorer, WTG! Glad that degree came in useful!

What do you do? (just curious, not flaming)

...Obviously nothing in English or Web Development. (bolded above)

However, the question remains! What DO you do?? (not curious, just flaming)

As for me, I don't have a job per se. I just do a lot of chores for someone I live with who also happens to pay for everything I do. I believe the term is "housewife".

So my final answer: Housewife. 0 training.

What's the male equivalent to housewife??? :frown:
 

MotionMan

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Jan 11, 2006
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Originally posted by: jw0ollard
Originally posted by: tfinch2
Originally posted by: PaulNEPats
These threads are always full of shit, I don't even know why people bother creating them.

OMG! 5 Years Minimum! WTFBBQ!


Edit: Not to mention, half the clowns on ATOT spend most of their workday posting here. Yeah, it takes a lot of skill to open up Internet Explorer, WTG! Glad that degree came in useful!

What do you do? (just curious, not flaming)

...Obviously nothing in English or Web Development. (bolded above)

However, the question remains! What DO you do?? (not curious, just flaming)

As for me, I don't have a job per se. I just do a lot of chores for someone I live with who also happens to pay for everything I do. I believe the term is "housewife".

So my final answer: Housewife. 0 training.

What's the male equivalent to housewife??? :frown:

You are selling yourself short if you think being a housewife takes zero training.

I am still learning about all the things my wife does (and my mom did when I was growing up).

I could not be a good housewife without much more training.

MotionMan
 

Apathetic

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Dec 23, 2002
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I'm a computer programmer who mainly writes multi-threaded services (daemons in Unix parlance). Probably about 4-5 years, assuming the person has no programming background.

Dave
 

LS20

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Originally posted by: PaulNEPats

Edit: Not to mention, half the clowns on ATOT spend most of their workday posting here. Yeah, it takes a lot of skill to open up Internet Explorer, WTG! Glad that degree came in useful!

i do this because im extremely proficient at my job ;)
 

her209

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Jack of all trades
System Admin (servers/desktops)
Network Admin (Cisco routers/firewalls/switches)
former Exchange Admin
CAD Admin
noobie Database Admin
Help Desk monkey
 

rgwalt

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It wouldn't take that long to teach someone with a similar degree (advanced engineering degree). I am a chemical engineer, and I could teach another engineer how to do the basics of my job. Someone with an engineering background could pick up what I do in under three months of training (basic controls for 2 or 3 weeks, Honeywell training for 2 months). After they have the background in control, I could have them "cut over" in less than two weeks.

If the person was simply "college eductated", with, say, an english degree, it would probably take a year or two of class to get the person to the point of being capable of doing my job. At the very least, they would need calculus 1-3, differential equations, and a course in process control. On top of that, they would need a stripped down chemical engineering curiculum to have an understanding of the processes that I work with at the refinery.

It all depends on what you mean by "very intelligent".

R
 

zoiks

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Probably couple of years. I do developer support with static source code analysis software. Basically, I determine whether a bug is really a bug or a false positive i.e resource leak, forward null, dynamic/buffer overruns etc. I guess for a normal joe who knows minimum basic computer skills, it probably would take a couple of years to get skilled at what I do.
 

Journer

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i dont think the average American can do some of jobs i've done/do. Some people just don't have the type of mind to do some computer stuff. I've noticed there are a lot of people that drop out of my major because they can't cut it.
 

Nik

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Doing my job requires a keen eye to detail, the ability to stay focussed for hours on something extremely detailed before getting a break, the ability to multitask like a mother, and being able to move quickly with little to no thought to personal safety. :p

My job takes about 4-6 months to learn, depending on your memory. The job itself isn't hard, but the level of focus required to accomplish the day's tasks before the end of the day takes a fair bit of practice.
 

her209

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Originally posted by: Journer
i dont think the average American can do some of jobs i've done/do. Some people just don't have the type of mind to do some computer stuff. I've noticed there are a lot of people that drop out of my major because they can't cut it.
And what do you do?
 

Nightfall

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A long time. Training someone to do my job would take a while. Training on all the software, hardware, policies, procedures, and so on would be the easiest. All the situational things that happen in IT such as a hard drive crash, component failure, strange event viewer errors, and such would take longer. What most people don't know is that training for a job is pretty easy, its the experience you have on the job that is hard. That goes for any job.