Ex-Reagan budget director charged with fraud

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"NEW YORK (Reuters) - David Stockman, a former Reagan White House budget director and ex-head of Collins & Aikman Corp., was indicted on fraud, conspiracy and other charges on Monday, accused of misleading investors when he was chief executive of the bankrupt auto parts maker.

Stockman and three other former company executives are accused of orchestrating a scheme to hide the company's true financial condition when it was on the brink of collapse, according to an indictment brought by federal prosecutors in Manhattan.

Four other ex-company officials have pleaded guilty to related charges, the government said.

The indictment accuses Stockman and three other former executives of manipulating reported earnings and issuing false statements, as well as engaging in fraudulent rebate schemes. Stockman is also accused of trying to thwart an internal investigation into the company's rebate accounting.

Stockman "hid the full truth from the company's investors and lenders," Manhattan U.S. Attorney Michael Garcia said at a news conference. He said the ex-CEO and others "resorted to lies, tricks and fraud" to boost Collins & Aikman's financial performance when they could not improve it legitimately.

The indictment is a major white-collar crime case for prosecutors in Manhattan federal court, site of criminal trials of figures such as homemaking icon Martha Stewart and former WorldCom chief Bernard Ebbers in recent years.

Stockman, a former Michigan congressman, was head of the Office of Management and Budget during the Reagan administration. There, he became famous as a promoter of supply-side economic policies, dubbed "Reaganomics."".....


another fine example of the 'moral' party and oh how ironic that he was the budget director and backed reaganomics and is now charged with "manipulating reported earnings and issuing false statements"

 

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Please---say its not so Joe--will the famous advocate of the Laffer curve become the next laughing stock as he too has his Leona Hemsely moment that turns into a prison sentence of five to ten? Maybe there is poetic justice after all!
 
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Originally posted by: alien42
another fine example of the 'moral' party and oh how ironic that he was the budget director and backed reaganomics and is now charged with "manipulating reported earnings and issuing false statements"

I suppose if he used to be in the 'immoral' party it would be ok? :confused:

What does his current status as a crook have to do with his political dealings from over 20 years ago? Why is it even important to bring up? (Other than as trivia)

I think you missed the biggest point of the story. Another CEO who defrauded investors and sank a company was found out and is likely headed to prison. And rightfully so. The justice department wins again.
 

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Originally posted by: Whoozyerdaddy

I think you missed the biggest point of the story. Another CEO who defrauded investors and sank a company was found out and is likely headed to prison. And rightfully so. The justice department wins again.

but but but but the bush administration is in bed with the corporations and they're all corporationy and i bet he doesn't see any jail time or maybe he'll fake a heart attack and live out his life on fiji with ken lay!
 

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You said a mouthfull, Whooseyerdaddy, when you noted the justice department wins again---but forgot to note that justice only wins when we have justice officials thats are politically independent. And that indeed may shed some light on why many are up in arms about what looks to be politically motivated firings of what should be politically independent prosecutors working for we the people.
 

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Originally posted by: Lemon law
You said a mouthfull, Whooseyerdaddy, when you noted the justice department wins again---but forgot to note that justice only wins when we have justice officials thats are politically independent. And that indeed may shed some light on why many are up in arms about what looks to be politically motivated firings of what should be politically independent prosecutors working for we the people.

ooo, tangential zing!
 
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Originally posted by: Lemon law
You said a mouthfull, Whooseyerdaddy, when you noted the justice department wins again---but forgot to note that justice only wins when we have justice officials thats are politically independent. And that indeed may shed some light on why many are up in arms about what looks to be politically motivated firings of what should be politically independent prosecutors working for we the people.

Ummm... yeah... but...

How did we get from Reagan bashing to Bush bashing? Are we going to Iraq next?

My only point was that the OP is using the arrest to take the opportunity to bash Reagan rather than point out the obvious... which I so kindly did for him.
 

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Originally posted by: alien42

Stockman, a former Michigan congressman, was head of the Office of Management and Budget during the Reagan administration.

There, he became famous as a promoter of supply-side economic policies, dubbed "Reaganomics."".....

another fine example of the 'moral' party and oh how ironic that he was the budget director and backed reaganomics and is now charged with "manipulating reported earnings and issuing false statements"

Grand Ol Party of Liars
 

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Originally posted by: Whoozyerdaddy
Originally posted by: alien42
another fine example of the 'moral' party and oh how ironic that he was the budget director and backed reaganomics and is now charged with "manipulating reported earnings and issuing false statements"

I suppose if he used to be in the 'immoral' party it would be ok? :confused:

What does his current status as a crook have to do with his political dealings from over 20 years ago? Why is it even important to bring up? (Other than as trivia)

I think you missed the biggest point of the story. Another CEO who defrauded investors and sank a company was found out and is likely headed to prison. And rightfully so. The justice department wins again.


AWWW! Did bad little independent prosecutors take rolly polly rightie tighties to court and convict 'em? Did not get that? Too bad!
 

alien42

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Originally posted by: Whoozyerdaddy
Originally posted by: Lemon law
You said a mouthfull, Whooseyerdaddy, when you noted the justice department wins again---but forgot to note that justice only wins when we have justice officials thats are politically independent. And that indeed may shed some light on why many are up in arms about what looks to be politically motivated firings of what should be politically independent prosecutors working for we the people.

Ummm... yeah... but...

How did we get from Reagan bashing to Bush bashing? Are we going to Iraq next?

My only point was that the OP is using the arrest to take the opportunity to bash Reagan rather than point out the obvious... which I so kindly did for him.
when did i bash reagan?

 

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Originally posted by: WHAMPOM
Originally posted by: Whoozyerdaddy
Originally posted by: alien42
another fine example of the 'moral' party and oh how ironic that he was the budget director and backed reaganomics and is now charged with "manipulating reported earnings and issuing false statements"

I suppose if he used to be in the 'immoral' party it would be ok? :confused:

What does his current status as a crook have to do with his political dealings from over 20 years ago? Why is it even important to bring up? (Other than as trivia)

I think you missed the biggest point of the story. Another CEO who defrauded investors and sank a company was found out and is likely headed to prison. And rightfully so. The justice department wins again.


AWWW! Did bad little independent prosecutors take rolly polly rightie tighties to court and convict 'em? Did not get that? Too bad!

Pretty much typical of the discourse from the average liberal.
 
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Originally posted by: WHAMPOM
Originally posted by: Whoozyerdaddy
Originally posted by: alien42
another fine example of the 'moral' party and oh how ironic that he was the budget director and backed reaganomics and is now charged with "manipulating reported earnings and issuing false statements"

I suppose if he used to be in the 'immoral' party it would be ok? :confused:

What does his current status as a crook have to do with his political dealings from over 20 years ago? Why is it even important to bring up? (Other than as trivia)

I think you missed the biggest point of the story. Another CEO who defrauded investors and sank a company was found out and is likely headed to prison. And rightfully so. The justice department wins again.


AWWW! Did bad little independent prosecutors take rolly polly rightie tighties to court and convict 'em? Did not get that? Too bad!

WTF are you talking about?
 
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Originally posted by: alien42
Originally posted by: Whoozyerdaddy
Originally posted by: Lemon law
You said a mouthfull, Whooseyerdaddy, when you noted the justice department wins again---but forgot to note that justice only wins when we have justice officials thats are politically independent. And that indeed may shed some light on why many are up in arms about what looks to be politically motivated firings of what should be politically independent prosecutors working for we the people.

Ummm... yeah... but...

How did we get from Reagan bashing to Bush bashing? Are we going to Iraq next?

My only point was that the OP is using the arrest to take the opportunity to bash Reagan rather than point out the obvious... which I so kindly did for him.
when did i bash reagan?

another fine example of the 'moral' party and oh how ironic that he was the budget director and backed reaganomics and is now charged with "manipulating reported earnings and issuing false statements"
Maybe I read more into that comment than was actually there? I mean really... what does the fact that he was Reagan's budget director 20+ years ago have to do with him defrauding investors and sinking a company? Nothing as far as I can tell but it seemed to be the crux of your 'comment'.
 

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Originally posted by: Lemon law
You said a mouthfull, Whooseyerdaddy, when you noted the justice department wins again---but forgot to note that justice only wins when we have justice officials thats are politically independent. And that indeed may shed some light on why many are up in arms about what looks to be politically motivated firings of what should be politically independent prosecutors working for we the people.

Considering the track record of the current Justice department being a bad businessman lands you in the slammer. For an adminstration supposedly so friendly to business they don't hold back on ones who break the law.

 

Genx87

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Originally posted by: Whoozyerdaddy
Originally posted by: alien42
another fine example of the 'moral' party and oh how ironic that he was the budget director and backed reaganomics and is now charged with "manipulating reported earnings and issuing false statements"

I suppose if he used to be in the 'immoral' party it would be ok? :confused:

What does his current status as a crook have to do with his political dealings from over 20 years ago? Why is it even important to bring up? (Other than as trivia)

I think you missed the biggest point of the story. Another CEO who defrauded investors and sank a company was found out and is likely headed to prison. And rightfully so. The justice department wins again.

Reagan is to liberals as Clinton is to Conservatives.

 

techs

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I guess 'voodoo economics" is only tolerated in politics, not the real world.