Ex-Guantanamo inmate to sue US

[Czar]

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/south_asia/3055127.stm

A Pakistani man who was imprisoned by America at Guantanamo Bay is preparing to sue the US Government for $10.4m.
Mohammed Sagheer was released last November after 10 months in captivity alongside around 600 other inmates.

Now the 51-year-old's lawyer, Mohammed Ikram Chaudhry, has served legal notice to the US authorities and will sue if they do not respond within a month.

In an interview with the BBC World Service's World Today programme, Mr Chaudhry said that he believed his client's mental health had been affected during his captivity.

He said that they had arrived at the figure of $10.4m because of the "mental, physical and moral suffering" Mr Sagheer had undergone.

Mr Sagheer, who is from the town of Kohat, was on a preaching mission in northern Afghanistan when he was arrested by Afghan warlord General Rashid Dostum and handed to the US authorities.

He says he witnessed scores of people dying including 50 who suffocated to death as he was transported across Afghanistan.

Mr Sagheer also says he saw hundreds of fellow prisoners die in US bombardments of northern Afghanistan.

On being handed to the American authorities he says he was deprived of food, forbidden to pray and made to shave off his beard.

 

[lozina]

Now what do people think about the 'critical information' the interrogators extracted from these detainees? If you were detained in a place where human rights are ignored, no contact with friends/family, put in awkward and painful positions or cages out in the jungle heat, watching fellow detainees perish and knowing how hostile the people holding you are towards you because they believe you had some responsibility in an attack on their country.... would you tell them something they would want to hear or perhaps give them some bogus information that might please them? Ah but what am I doing asking a bunch of people sitting safe and comfortably behind their computer to imagine that ... nevermind

 

[tcsenter]

A Pakistani man who was imprisoned by America at Guantanamo Bay is preparing to sue the US Government for $10.4m.

A US federal appeals court is preparing to dismiss the lawsuit of a Pakistani man and former Guantanamo Bay detainee who is suing the United States for $10.4 million.

Yawn...

 

[lozina]

Originally posted by: tcsenter

A Pakistani man who was imprisoned by America at Guantanamo Bay is preparing to sue the US Government for $10.4m.

A US federal appeals court is preparing to dismiss the lawsuit of a Pakistani man and former Guantanamo Bay detainee who is suing the United States for $10.4 million.

Yawn...

Well obviously, since he was held in a legal limbo where human rights were null and void. But does that make it right? Do you support that? And do you still believe the information the administration has extracted from these detainees is legitimate?

 

[LilBlinbBlahIce]

Originally posted by: tcsenter

A Pakistani man who was imprisoned by America at Guantanamo Bay is preparing to sue the US Government for $10.4m.

A US federal appeals court is preparing to dismiss the lawsuit of a Pakistani man and former Guantanamo Bay detainee who is suing the United States for $10.4 million.

Yawn...

Of course! This guy is not human, he's an "enemy combattant". He has no rights and is not entitled to any compensation, weather we were right or wrong in detaining him for as long as we felt necessary. We are the home of the free... when it suits us. Can you imagine the outrage if we detained white Christians in the conditions of the people being held at Guantanamo? Would America stand for it? It's not so shocking if you're not reminded of the people you are hurting everytime you look in the mirror.

 

[tcsenter]

Well obviously, since he was held in a legal limbo where human rights were null and void. But does that make it right? Do you support that? And do you still believe the information the administration has extracted from these detainees is legitimate?

The International Red Cross who makes routine visits to the camp have already said none of this is happening.

Human rights are not absolute. They can and are deprived when there is good cause to do so.

He has no rights and is not entitled to any compensation, weather we were right or wrong in detaining him for as long as we felt necessary.

All detainees released from Gitmo receive compensation (and a free ride home). No, its not millions of dollars.

 

[LilBlinbBlahIce]

Originally posted by: tcsenter

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Human rights are not absolute. They can and are deprived when there is good cause to do so.

He has no rights and is not entitled to any compensation, weather we were right or wrong in detaining him for as long as we felt necessary.

All detainees released from Gitmo receive compensation (and a free ride home). No, its not millions of dollars.

I did not know that, do you have a link or anything taling about compensation?

 

[tcsenter]

I did not know that, do you have a link or anything taling about compensation?

I don't have one. Now I could go to Google and plug-in 'guantanamo, detained, compensation, released', or something along those lines, and find you one.

But then why should I do something you're perfectly capable of?

 

[LilBlinbBlahIce]

Originally posted by: tcsenter

I did not know that, do you have a link or anything taling about compensation?

I don't have one. Now I could go to Google and plug-in 'guantanamo, detained, compensation, released', or something along those lines, and find you one.

But then why should I do something you're perfectly capable of?

Cause you stated something without any proof.

 

[tcsenter]

Cause you stated something without any proof.

Umm, was it not you who claimed Gitmo detainees received no compensation? I thought so.

 

[kylebisme]

Originally posted by: tcsenter

I did not know that, do you have a link or anything taling about compensation?

I don't have one. Now I could go to Google and plug-in 'guantanamo, detained, compensation, released', or something along those lines, and find you one.

But then why should I do something you're perfectly capable of?

odd, the links that come back generally have the word "demand" before the word compensation in that search. so please, tell me how many released prisoners of Guantanamo Bay do you know of that are comparing the experience to summer camp and what are your sources?

 

[LilBlinbBlahIce]

Originally posted by: tcsenter

Cause you stated something without any proof.

Umm, was it not you who claimed Gitmo detainees received no compensation? I thought so.

Actually no, I was being sarcastic in describing their situation. That was obviously lost on you. You claimed they received compensation and for some reason, maybe laziness, you are refusing to provide proof. What's the deal? I don't know if they received compensation and I stated that. You specifically said that they did. Proove it.

 

[tcsenter]

There have been several articles in papers such as the NY Times telling the stories of those who did a stint at Guantanamo and were released. None complained of mistreatment, only extreme boredom, depression, uncertainty over their fate, not knowing how long they would be there.

One article told of three men who were released and given a only several hundred dollars between them. They complained it wasn't as much as they were promised, but it was better than nothing. I don't recall which paper it appeared.

Zalmay Khalilzad, the US special envoy to Afghanistan, has been quoted as saying that freed Gitmo prisoners receive "assistance" to help them after their release, but would not detail what that assistance may be.

 

[B00ne]

Gitmo is awesome it's a Jungle Party and the drugs are for free

 

[sandorski]

Originally posted by: tcsenter

Well obviously, since he was held in a legal limbo where human rights were null and void. But does that make it right? Do you support that? And do you still believe the information the administration has extracted from these detainees is legitimate?

The International Red Cross who makes routine visits to the camp have already said none of this is happening.

Human rights are not absolute. They can and are deprived when there is good cause to do so.

He has no rights and is not entitled to any compensation, weather we were right or wrong in detaining him for as long as we felt necessary.

All detainees released from Gitmo receive compensation (and a free ride home). No, its not millions of dollars.

"Good cause" should not be determined by the captors. Hitler had "Good cause" to deny Jews their rights.