Ex-candidate charged with making threats in Indiana

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Robor

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More 2nd amendment remedies? :rolleyes: This woman lost her discrimination lawsuit so the obvious solution was to make death threats against the judge(s). Luckily, they stopped her before she was able to act on them.

Link to AP story on Yahoo... http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/us_candidate_threats

By CHARLES WILSON, Associated Press Charles Wilson, Associated Press – Sat Jan 15, 5:07 pm ET

INDIANAPOLIS – An Indiana woman who ran unsuccessfully for U.S. Congress last year was being held Saturday on charges she made threats against judges and other officials on her Facebook account.

Morgan County Prosecutor Steve Sonnega — who said he was among those targeted — said he decided to move quickly after discovering the threats in part due to last week's shootings in Arizona that wounded U.S. Rep. Gabrielle Giffords and killed six others.

"I think the Arizona situation drove more to the sense of urgency," Sonnega told The Associated Press.

Cheryl Allen, 51, of Martinsville was being held on $100,000 bond Saturday in a jail in her hometown, about 28 miles south of Indianapolis. State police arrested her on eight felony counts of intimidation on Thursday, the same day authorities discovered the postings, which were apparently published on her page three days earlier.

Allen repeatedly maintained her innocence during a court hearing Friday. But after the charges were read, she said: "Someday, may someone get even with them," according to The Reporter-Times. She could face four to 24 years in prison if convicted, state police said.

The alleged threats mentioned four Morgan County judges, and other public officials — including Sonnega — were mentioned by first name. Media reports said Allen had previously filed a discrimination lawsuit that was dismissed by a judge.

"One day I will have my revenge on your seeking so much revenge on me," read one of the posts cited in media reports.

"Someday Boooooom while your setting in your offices," read a second. "And you know I won't even be the one pulling the trigger," said another.

A message seeking comment was left with Allen's attorney on Saturday, and her home phone number was disconnected.

Sonnega told the AP authorities had been monitoring Allen for months due to comments she had made about various public officials, but she hadn't "crossed the line" until this week. He said he contacted state police and appointed a special prosecutor, Barry Brown, after discovering the alleged threats.

"In light of what happened in Arizona ... we thought we had better act quickly," Sonnega said.

Brown was traveling and could not be reached for comment Saturday. The Reporter-Times said Brown said in court that authorities intend to have Allen's mental health evaluated.

Allen ran unsuccessfully for the Republican nomination for Indiana's 4th Congressional District seat in 2010, winning just 3 percent of the vote. The seat that was vacated by U.S. Rep. Steve Buyer was eventually won by new U.S. Rep. Todd Rokita.

Allen had criticized the courts' handling of her discrimination case during her campaign last year and suggested the system needed a major overhaul, according to The Reporter-Times. In a Facebook post on Jan. 8, the newspaper said she wrote: "What do you need to have done to get all the current government out of office? That is why we should own guns to go into court to get my right to trial back."
 

Robor

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It really doesn't matter what party she is from. The point is this is just another nimrod who thinks they have the right to use lethal force when something doesn't go their way. IMO this is a result of too much "take back the country" and "we're angry and we're not going to take it anymore" crap used to court TV ratings and votes.
 

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I somewhat wonder what law she is violating in her free speech rights? She is seemingly predicting that someone else will violently exact revenge for her, somewhat of a fantasy given the fact that she only pulled in 3% of the primary vote.

She may be super upset that she lost, but not everyone who runs for political office wins. And not many people who win political office are not corrupt in some way.
 

Double Trouble

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Ok, she's a loon and she might even be dangerous (I don't know one way or the other).....

However, in the article I read I saw nothing that went to the level of felonies that should land someone in jail for "4 to 24 years". Looks like this AZ thing is going to deal a body blow to freedom of speech like 9/11 did to civil rights.
 

feralkid

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Ok, she's a loon and she might even be dangerous (I don't know one way or the other).....

However, in the article I read I saw nothing that went to the level of felonies that should land someone in jail for "4 to 24 years". Looks like this AZ thing is going to deal a body blow to freedom of speech like 9/11 did to civil rights.


Well..."they felt they needed to act quickly" after the Tucson massacre; they didn't suddenly invent new crimes to charge her with.
 

Double Trouble

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Well..."they felt they needed to act quickly" after the Tucson massacre; they didn't suddenly invent new crimes to charge her with.

I know, I'm not saying she isn't dangerous and shouldn't be locked up.... Just an observation that now, in the wake of the AZ shooting, people (especially those in office and public officials like DA's) are going to be hyper sensitive to statements, and things that previously could be said without any problems will result in criminal penalties.
 

feralkid

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I know, I'm not saying she isn't dangerous and shouldn't be locked up.... Just an observation that now, in the wake of the AZ shooting, people (especially those in office and public officials like DA's) are going to be hyper sensitive to statements, and things that previously could be said without any problems will result in criminal penalties.


Yeah...after 19 people are gunned down, one might expect some reduction of tolerance for terroristic threats.
 

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How is this illegal? Trolling on the Internets is not a threat because the 'you' that posts is a fictional character, no matter how much time you spend in second life!

This is art at it's finest.
 

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I'm not sure I agree with this. Sounds a lot like "precrime" to me. If the posts on facebook were not specifically directed (i.e. sent as messages to the other person), I'm not sure how it could be called "intimidation". The fact that she recently lost a trial is circumstantial at best.

This is just more people politicizing what happened in AZ.

She wasn't inciting a riot, so there was no violation of free speech. She did nothing wrong. Although she probably should get some help medically.
 

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Last night some FBI experts were on 60 minutes and noted that Jared Loughner fit a pattern of nut cases that actually turned into very dangerous crazed assassins. And while thousands of ordinary nut cases rant and rave just like our Ms Allen, the real dangerous assassins never reveals in advance what their intended targets are.

And by that criteria, Ms. Allen would not fit that pattern of potentially very dangerous.
 

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Last night some FBI experts were on 60 minutes and noted that Jared Loughner fit a pattern of nut cases that actually turned into very dangerous crazed assassins. And while thousands of ordinary nut cases rant and rave just like our Ms Allen, the real dangerous assassins never reveals in advance what their intended targets are.

And by that criteria, Ms. Allen would not fit that pattern of potentially very dangerous.

Also, I'd bet that if you start using the "fit the pattern of crazed assassins" criteria, you'd end up looking at a lot of "suspects" because a LOT of people that are not a threat to anyone would fit the pattern.
 
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