Ex-Aide to Ron Paul Makes Stunning Claims About Old Boss: Anti-Israel, 9/11 Truther,

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Craig234

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He worked with him for 12 years.

Honestly, I find Paul supporters like you just beguiling. It's one thing to say, "I support Ron Paul, despite all the evidence he might be a bigot and/or a nut, because I think his ideas are so important and valuable," but I have never heard anyone say that. Instead, it's always, "all the criticism of Paul is invalid and slanderous, even if it is based on things he himself has done and said."

When he loses 2012, he might be a good fit as Il-Paul Kim to be the new Dear Leader for North Korea. North Koreans might find the Paulbots too slavish in their support, though.
 

bradley

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“The true antidote to racism is liberty. Liberty means having a limited, constitutional government devoted to the protection of individual rights rather than group claims.

Liberty means free-market capitalism, which rewards individual achievement and competence, not skin color, gender, or ethnicity. In a free market, businesses that discriminate lose customers, goodwill, and valuable employees- while rational businesses flourish by choosing the most qualified employees and selling to all willing buyers. More importantly, in a free society every citizen gains a sense of himself as an individual, rather than developing a group or victim mentality.

This leads to a sense of individual responsibility and personal pride, making skin color irrelevant. Rather than looking to government to correct what is essentially a sin of the heart, we should understand that reducing racism requires a shift from group thinking to an emphasis on individualism.”

-Ron Paul, “What Really Divides Us”, December 23, 2002
 

Macamus Prime

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Conservatives are so scared of Obama, they would be willing to vote for Hitler - if they were allowed to publicly acknowledge that the Republican party has secretly cloned him and turned him into a cyborg.
 

airdata

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Is Paulbot a pro obama, anti right wing thing?

Who is more scared of Ron Paul? True democrats? Or Right wingers?
 

Joepublic2

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Eric Dondero is Jewish so intellectually bankrupt puff pieces smearing anybody who looks at the AIPAC wrong are not just understandable but to be expected.

*YAWN*

edit: and I wouldn't vote for Paul. He might be on the money on some things but he's completely, absolutely lost in the outfield on most others.
 
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Craig234

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Is Paulbot a pro obama, anti right wing thing?

Who is more scared of Ron Paul? True democrats? Or Right wingers?

I don't know - who is more scared of a gutted democracy where the people are powerless against an unrestrained wealthy corporate class who can do almost anything, and the resulting poverty and misery for the people is cheered by Paul as 'freedom'? Whoever destroying society scares more, I guess. So I'd say Democrats.

But Republicans fear him too, because he'd undermine their own version of profiting from that corporatocracy, whereas Paul isn't out to profit, just to destroy democracy.

I guess you find it flattering to say they're scared of Paul; it makes him seem more important and legitimate.

But it's more like asking 'who's more scared of President Charles Manson?'
 

Craig234

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“The true antidote to racism is liberty. Liberty means having a limited, constitutional government devoted to the protection of individual rights rather than group claims.

Liberty means free-market capitalism, which rewards individual achievement and competence, not skin color, gender, or ethnicity. In a free market, businesses that discriminate lose customers, goodwill, and valuable employees- while rational businesses importantly, in a free society every citizen gains a sense of himself as an individual, rather flourish by choosing the most qualified employees and selling to all willing buyers. More than developing a group or victim mentality.

This leads to a sense of individual responsibility and personal pride, making skin color irrelevant. Rather than looking to government to correct what is essentially a sin of the heart, we should understand that reducing racism requires a shift from group thinking to an emphasis on individualism.”

-Ron Paul, “What Really Divides Us”, December 23, 2002

Yes, because the 'liberty' for businesses to segregate - which they did for US history until that 'liberty' was taken away - was a great 'antidote for racism'.

And yes, the 'liberty' to discriminate based on race in employment - which kept blacks in menial employment for a century after slavery ended - was another great 'antidote'.

Fact it, the government's intervention to outlaw the discrimination was the key to the real 'antidote' with public opinion changing as a result - finally after hundreds of years.

Paul is a radical ideologue who thinks the snake oil he's selling of anti-democracy will cure whatever it is you will vote about. Don't like racism? Libertarianism cures it! Sucker.
 

JEDIYoda

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Eric Dondero is nuts and he lies all the time. He's homophobic (he made some obvious and homophobic lie up about Justin Raimondo) and he's an idiot.

He got fired from Dr. Paul's campaign because Dondero smelled like bullshit. Dondero is not Jewish either.

If Yoda had bothered to look up Dondero, he'd see that he's nuts and can't be trusted.

I found after all my research what was said to be relevant. Dr. Who is running for president.
Mr. Dondero has stated that he is 1/2 Jewish....1/2 Jewish vs whole Jewish...
One parent was Jewish the other was not..no big deal.

Anarchist is it interesting that you of all people would be telling other to do their homework before posting concerning Dr. Who...................

Kind of like the pot calling the kettle black,,,huh?
 

yhelothar

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I don't know - who is more scared of a gutted democracy where the people are powerless against an unrestrained wealthy corporate class who can do almost anything, and the resulting poverty and misery for the people is cheered by Paul as 'freedom'? Whoever destroying society scares more, I guess. So I'd say Democrats.

But Republicans fear him too, because he'd undermine their own version of profiting from that corporatocracy, whereas Paul isn't out to profit, just to destroy democracy.

I guess you find it flattering to say they're scared of Paul; it makes him seem more important and legitimate.

But it's more like asking 'who's more scared of President Charles Manson?'

Sounds more akin to the status quo corporatocracy that's going on now with the bankers in the beds of the politicians, where the rich are able to commit whatever sleazy deal they want without any consequences.

Ron Paul is the one who would put an end to that.
 

momeNt

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Sounds more akin to the status quo corporatocracy that's going on now with the bankers in the beds of the politicians, where the rich are able to commit whatever sleazy deal they want without any consequences.

Ron Paul is the one who would put an end to that.

Apparently Craig believes that the corporate class would make laws and regulations benefiting them even if there wasn't a government willing to do the legislating.
 

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This shouldn't really surprise anyone particularly intelligent. Most smart people can easily connect the dots to a candidate who had several newsletters that went out under his name that contain anti-gay, anti-Israel, and downright racist/prejudice conspiracy theories with his actual voting record on civil rights (which is awful vis-à-vis excusing Jim Crow), his isoloationist stance on Israel being left to fend for themselves for budgetary reasons, his social stances on gay rights (all on the record vis-à-vis his gay marriage votes) and of course his well documented pandering to the conspiracy nutter crowd that believes in black helicopters vis-à-vis Alex Jones appearances and what have you.

Prejudiced douche bag with poor civil rights record is prejudiced douche bag with poor civil rights record.
 

sm625

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Dondero has been attacking Paul for years. And you people who buy his crap are going to get what you deserve. No job, no future, just war and disease and a life of constantly scrapping and scraping just to serve the bankers and the war mongers. You're going to watch your own child die of cancer then you're going to bomb some third world country to make you feel better. And you're gonna wonder why it all happened. I'll tell you why. Because you let a bunch of rich bastards write your entire mental and social paradigm. You cannot think for yourself. You think what they want you to think. You put your money where they want you to put it (into China, weapons, wars, drugs, etc).

Regardless of how much damage you and your ignorance does to this republic, it may yet survive the likes of you. You have no brains, you wreak nothing but ruin. Your ignorance has created the greatest fiscal crisis in all of history and the ruin you sow will be yours and yours alone. And you can associate this comment with ron paul, just to validate your braindead idiot logic. When you actually live through the kondratiev winter, or at least read about it, you will understand why some people espouse the ideas of Ron Paul. Sound money is far more important than your petty braindead drivel.
 
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ky54

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Well, I'm sure this little tirade will lead to more people supporting Paul.
 

sm625

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This shouldn't really surprise anyone particularly intelligent.

Are you saying you might be particularly intelligent? Because you sound like you bought the madison avenue bait. Hook, lie, and stinker. You're a model nwo minion.
 

xj0hnx

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After reading this I like Paul even more.

Pretty much. When you look at the fruitcakes that have a hard-on for this "story", and the desperation of the lies, it let's you know you're on to something.
 

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“The true antidote to racism is liberty. Liberty means having a limited, constitutional government devoted to the protection of individual rights rather than group claims.

Liberty means free-market capitalism, which rewards individual achievement and competence, not skin color, gender, or ethnicity. In a free market, businesses that discriminate lose customers, goodwill, and valuable employees- while rational businesses flourish by choosing the most qualified employees and selling to all willing buyers. More importantly, in a free society every citizen gains a sense of himself as an individual, rather than developing a group or victim mentality.

This leads to a sense of individual responsibility and personal pride, making skin color irrelevant. Rather than looking to government to correct what is essentially a sin of the heart, we should understand that reducing racism requires a shift from group thinking to an emphasis on individualism.”

-Ron Paul, “What Really Divides Us”, December 23, 2002

Civil War ended in 1865. The Civil Rights act didn't take effect until 1964. For 99 years, an emphasis on individualism did NOT reduce racism. In fact, racism flourished. Businesses did not worry that "oh no! We're losing business!" by refusing to serve blacks at the whites only counter. There's a century of history demonstrating that Paul's idealism is wrong. He's an idiot for continuing to believe it. Ditto his followers.
 

bfdd

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I can support your eating off the floor and not want to participate. That's how I think he views homosexuality. I don't really see anything wrong with it either. What are you the thought police? Everyone has to be ok with it? That's unfuckingrealistic.

Just to be clear, I think it's stupid of him and I'd laugh in his face for it as well.
 

LegendKiller

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Civil War ended in 1865. The Civil Rights act didn't take effect until 1964. For 99 years, an emphasis on individualism did NOT reduce racism. In fact, racism flourished. Businesses did not worry that "oh no! We're losing business!" by refusing to serve blacks at the whites only counter. There's a century of history demonstrating that Paul's idealism is wrong. He's an idiot for continuing to believe it. Ditto his followers.

You'll never convince them of anything but the world being a 100% egalitarian place whereby the "invisible hand" of the 100% "free market" will solve everything. The world is perfect and will be perfectly managed by perfect people in a perfect way.
 

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Civil War ended in 1865. The Civil Rights act didn't take effect until 1964. For 99 years, an emphasis on individualism did NOT reduce racism. In fact, racism flourished. Businesses did not worry that "oh no! We're losing business!" by refusing to serve blacks at the whites only counter. There's a century of history demonstrating that Paul's idealism is wrong. He's an idiot for continuing to believe it. Ditto his followers.

This to the nth power. We literally have damn near a full century where racism flourished among businesses pretty thoroughly throughout huge, massive swaths of the U.S. Anyone that believes free markets and/or liberty solve racism in isolation, or even just primarily by themselves, ignores historical evidence and/or is willfully ignorant. Perhaps more likely, just unknowingly ignorant.
 
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bfdd

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craig you are complaining about institutionalized racism. the government refused to acknowlefge all man's as equal. the state is to blame for that. if the law treats everyone equal, then it really doesn't matter what a perskn believes. but you're a wannabe thought police