evolution...we dont need no evolution, lets teach our kids "intelligent design" instead

[Legendary]

Originally posted by: SparkyJJO

Originally posted by: Fausto
You need to crack a biology book. Seriously, it depresses me that there are adult human beings running around so utterly ignorant of their surroundings.

I HAVE cracked a biology book. I'm sorry, but evolution, no matter what you say about it, is not proven true, not even close. Evolution is completely circular thinking - date rocks by the fossils, then date the fossils by the rocks, etc etc etc.........

The Bible is very old - but it is not just man's words, it is inspired by God. Of course you guys won't believe me, and you'll think I'm a wacko, but that's fine with me because I know who will be right in the end. It gives something to live for too - if you don't believe it and are just living for what is now without anything eternal, what's the point of living? You guys might as well commit suicide and end your pitiful existence if there is nothing more after this life like you say. However, Christians have something to live for because they KNOW what is at the end - and know what is at the end for non-Christians too.

I can't help but notice that NO ONE has come up with an example of one species turning into another. Just as I thought, because there IS no example because it NEVER happened. No one has given an example of a hole in intelligent design.

I am not using lies to "save souls" - only you would think of that. I never said that no one is smarter than me - a lot of people ARE smarter than me by a huge amount. But people who buy into this who evolution thing are being somewhat ridiculous. How are the arguements refuted? Like what with what proof?

No one needs "evolution studies" because it is nonsense - no pieces of the evolutionary puzzle fit together. I've checked that stuff, nothing fits snugly. It only fits loosely at best, usually just falling apart. I do feel qualified enough to make a judgement like this because it is not rocket science to figure it out. Do you really think that this entire physical universe just put itself together? There is no way. Laws of nature show that stuff breaks down and heads towards entropy naturally - completely opposite of evolutionary theories. Besides, where did all this stuff come from? It had to come from somewhere.

Evolution isn't science - for years it has gone nowhere with no supporting "proof." It is still called a theory too, but everyone wants to act like it is a fact when it isn't by a long shot.

And I'm not "sticking my head in the sand" because I haven't gone away yet 🙂

I honestly feel sorry for all of you. You are really lost. You need God in your life to set you straight - I can't do that (obviously) but hopefully through me maybe God will use me to bring some from darkness into light.

If something like this really is the basis by which we are all tested when we go to Heaven/Hell, no matter where I am I will be happy that people like you are not around.

 

[nmcglennon]

Originally posted by: hevnsnt

Originally posted by: XZeroII
There is an episode of Star Trek Voyager, I think it's called The Voyager Conspiracy or something. Watch that and you'll see how easy it can be to use the same evidence to come up with many different scenarios. Each scenario is 100% believable and persuasive and fit the facts perfect, but they are all wrong. This is how I view science. Does this mean I think we should abandon it? No. But people who think they know it all and criticize other theories (like marcello does) are stupid. Science is about the persuit of the truth, and you can't find the truth if you close doors.

Seriously.. You bring Star Trek into the arguement. Wow.

Thanks for saying what I couldn't !

 

[nmcglennon]

Originally posted by: PhasmatisNox

Originally posted by: Gooberlx2

Originally posted by: ThePresence
I don't understand the outburst of anger in response to this. What is so terribly wrong with teaching kids both sides? Evolution is just as unproven as intelligent design. Evolution is a theory, intelligent design is a theory too, why is everyone so upset by this?

ID is not a scientific theory. It doesn't comply with the scientific method.

Neither does evolution.

IIRC:
Observe
Question
Experiment <--- !
Analyze
Conclude

You are quite wrong... Talk to many geneticists. They have conducted experiments that have confirmed (through falsification of hypotheses) with the theories of evolution. However, they cannot find anything to falsify the other theories of, say, creation theory. So while science confirms evolution time and time over again, they cannot determine the truth because they cannot falsify all other theories. God is not in the physical universe, which is only what science seeks to explain. Intelligent Design is an amalgamation of evolution with God.

Science is rooted in philosophy. Science truth is not proven on theory, since nothing can be proven true. However, things can be falsified, and truth can be derived from this. For scientific theory to be applicable, they must fit the following:
1. the idea must be about the physical universe
2. the idea must have observations that are falsifiable. The scientific method is designed to test this.

Creation theory and intelligent design cannot be falsified, whereas evolution can be. Therefore from a scientific standpoint, evolution is the only valid **natural** theory. However, since intelligent design and creation theory cannot apply to scientific theory, they wouldn't be a natural theory, but they would still be a philosophical/religous theory.

Cliff's Notes: Believe what you want. Science cannot prove ID or creation theory through scientific theory. It can prove evolution through scientific theory.

 

[silverpig]

Originally posted by: SparkyJJO

Originally posted by: Fausto
You need to crack a biology book. Seriously, it depresses me that there are adult human beings running around so utterly ignorant of their surroundings.

I HAVE cracked a biology book. I'm sorry, but evolution, no matter what you say about it, is not proven true, not even close. Evolution is completely circular thinking - date rocks by the fossils, then date the fossils by the rocks, etc etc etc.........

The Bible is very old - but it is not just man's words, it is inspired by God. Of course you guys won't believe me, and you'll think I'm a wacko, but that's fine with me because I know who will be right in the end. It gives something to live for too - if you don't believe it and are just living for what is now without anything eternal, what's the point of living? You guys might as well commit suicide and end your pitiful existence if there is nothing more after this life like you say. However, Christians have something to live for because they KNOW what is at the end - and know what is at the end for non-Christians too.

I can't help but notice that NO ONE has come up with an example of one species turning into another. Just as I thought, because there IS no example because it NEVER happened. No one has given an example of a hole in intelligent design.

I am not using lies to "save souls" - only you would think of that. I never said that no one is smarter than me - a lot of people ARE smarter than me by a huge amount. But people who buy into this who evolution thing are being somewhat ridiculous. How are the arguements refuted? Like what with what proof?

No one needs "evolution studies" because it is nonsense - no pieces of the evolutionary puzzle fit together. I've checked that stuff, nothing fits snugly. It only fits loosely at best, usually just falling apart. I do feel qualified enough to make a judgement like this because it is not rocket science to figure it out. Do you really think that this entire physical universe just put itself together? There is no way. Laws of nature show that stuff breaks down and heads towards entropy naturally - completely opposite of evolutionary theories. Besides, where did all this stuff come from? It had to come from somewhere.

Evolution isn't science - for years it has gone nowhere with no supporting "proof." It is still called a theory too, but everyone wants to act like it is a fact when it isn't by a long shot.

And I'm not "sticking my head in the sand" because I haven't gone away yet 🙂

I honestly feel sorry for all of you. You are really lost. You need God in your life to set you straight - I can't do that (obviously) but hopefully through me maybe God will use me to bring some from darkness into light.

You date the rocks by radioactive decay, then the fossils by the rocks.

Why does there have to be something after this life? I say once you're dead that's it; you're dead. You don't go anywhere, you just cease to exist. You go back to the same place you came from before you were born.

No one has come up with an example of one species turning into another because the timescales for this to happen are millions of years, whereas people have only been around for a few thousand years. We just haven't observed it yet. I find it funny that you can say that it has never happened because no one has seen it, yet go on to talk about how God exists...

Hole in intelligent design? Read some thermodynamics.

Even Einstein's theory of relativity was untested, loosely drawn together conjecture at one point. Same with quantum electrodynamics... and those are two of the most beautiful, perfect, and highly tested theories we have come up with.

Yes I do think the universe (or what we see of it anyways) put itself together. Models work very well so far and we have very good ideas on how galaxies and clusters coalesced. Further from that we know how stars and planets form... in fact we can watch it happen. We have also discovered hundreds of extrasolar planets, and missions are in the planning phases that will allow us to take direct pictures of earth-like planets in other solar systems. Spectrographic analysis will allow us to determine the atmospheric content...

Entropy increases in a closed system. This is true, but the earth is NOT a closed system.

I respect religion for what it can do to help misguided people live better lives. I have family members who were "saved" from self destruction because of it and for that I'm thankful, but as a means of explaining the natural world it has serious shortcomings. Take it for what it's good for and take the rest for what it really is.

 

[VWhed]

I didn't even read the story yet, I need to clean the beer off of my CRT......Dover, PA is like where I live. It is such a piece of crap town - I can't believe they are in the news for this, but I don't think all of the racial crap from a couple of years ago made this kind of stink---4 pages on ATOT , I mean, 4 PAGES. People have died and there was less of a deal made about it.

 

[OS]

Originally posted by: SparkyJJO

Originally posted by: Fausto
You need to crack a biology book. Seriously, it depresses me that there are adult human beings running around so utterly ignorant of their surroundings.

I HAVE cracked a biology book. I'm sorry, but evolution, no matter what you say about it, is not proven true, not even close. Evolution is completely circular thinking - date rocks by the fossils, then date the fossils by the rocks, etc etc etc.........

The Bible is very old - but it is not just man's words, it is inspired by God. Of course you guys won't believe me, and you'll think I'm a wacko, but that's fine with me because I know who will be right in the end. It gives something to live for too - if you don't believe it and are just living for what is now without anything eternal, what's the point of living? You guys might as well commit suicide and end your pitiful existence if there is nothing more after this life like you say. However, Christians have something to live for because they KNOW what is at the end - and know what is at the end for non-Christians too.

I can't help but notice that NO ONE has come up with an example of one species turning into another. Just as I thought, because there IS no example because it NEVER happened. No one has given an example of a hole in intelligent design.

I am not using lies to "save souls" - only you would think of that. I never said that no one is smarter than me - a lot of people ARE smarter than me by a huge amount. But people who buy into this who evolution thing are being somewhat ridiculous. How are the arguements refuted? Like what with what proof?

No one needs "evolution studies" because it is nonsense - no pieces of the evolutionary puzzle fit together. I've checked that stuff, nothing fits snugly. It only fits loosely at best, usually just falling apart. I do feel qualified enough to make a judgement like this because it is not rocket science to figure it out. Do you really think that this entire physical universe just put itself together? There is no way. Laws of nature show that stuff breaks down and heads towards entropy naturally - completely opposite of evolutionary theories. Besides, where did all this stuff come from? It had to come from somewhere.

Evolution isn't science - for years it has gone nowhere with no supporting "proof." It is still called a theory too, but everyone wants to act like it is a fact when it isn't by a long shot.

And I'm not "sticking my head in the sand" because I haven't gone away yet 🙂

I honestly feel sorry for all of you. You are really lost. You need God in your life to set you straight - I can't do that (obviously) but hopefully through me maybe God will use me to bring some from darkness into light.

God damn you're an ignorant ass dumbf*ck.

If you love God and sh*t so much, why aren't you praying every day for a dump truck to run your sorry ass over? After all, then you will be closer to God that much sooner. What the hell is the point of living out life if all you give a f*ck about is God and heaven?

Seriously, how much paint thinner have you been sniffing today?

 

[judasmachine]

lets not teach them anything, and see what happens. aww come on it'll be fun...

 

[Babbles]

Originally posted by: SparkyJJO

Originally posted by: Fausto
You need to crack a biology book. Seriously, it depresses me that there are adult human beings running around so utterly ignorant of their surroundings.

I HAVE cracked a biology book. I'm sorry, but evolution, no matter what you say about it, is not proven true, not even close. Evolution is completely circular thinking - date rocks by the fossils, then date the fossils by the rocks, etc etc etc.........

The Bible is very old - but it is not just man's words, it is inspired by God. Of course you guys won't believe me, and you'll think I'm a wacko, but that's fine with me because I know who will be right in the end. It gives something to live for too - if you don't believe it and are just living for what is now without anything eternal, what's the point of living? You guys might as well commit suicide and end your pitiful existence if there is nothing more after this life like you say. However, Christians have something to live for because they KNOW what is at the end - and know what is at the end for non-Christians too.

I can't help but notice that NO ONE has come up with an example of one species turning into another. Just as I thought, because there IS no example because it NEVER happened. No one has given an example of a hole in intelligent design.

I am not using lies to "save souls" - only you would think of that. I never said that no one is smarter than me - a lot of people ARE smarter than me by a huge amount. But people who buy into this who evolution thing are being somewhat ridiculous. How are the arguements refuted? Like what with what proof?

No one needs "evolution studies" because it is nonsense - no pieces of the evolutionary puzzle fit together. I've checked that stuff, nothing fits snugly. It only fits loosely at best, usually just falling apart. I do feel qualified enough to make a judgement like this because it is not rocket science to figure it out. Do you really think that this entire physical universe just put itself together? There is no way. Laws of nature show that stuff breaks down and heads towards entropy naturally - completely opposite of evolutionary theories. Besides, where did all this stuff come from? It had to come from somewhere.

Evolution isn't science - for years it has gone nowhere with no supporting "proof." It is still called a theory too, but everyone wants to act like it is a fact when it isn't by a long shot.

And I'm not "sticking my head in the sand" because I haven't gone away yet 🙂

I honestly feel sorry for all of you. You are really lost. You need God in your life to set you straight - I can't do that (obviously) but hopefully through me maybe God will use me to bring some from darkness into light.

So you are admitting that you cracked open a biology book and didn't learn a thing??!!

Wow, that is pretty amazing.

Evolution isn't science - for years it has gone nowhere with no supporting "proof." It is still called a theory too, but everyone wants to act like it is a fact when it isn't by a long shot.

You may want to tell all of those PhD, MSc and grad students that they are not studying a science. That all of the research they are doing is not science.
I am sure you have vast amounts of credentials to make sweeping statements that evolution is not a science and that a theory is meaningless.
What is your PhD in? What did you research for your post doc?

 

[DrPizza]

Originally posted by: Babbles

Originally posted by: SparkyJJO

Originally posted by: Fausto
You need to crack a biology book. Seriously, it depresses me that there are adult human beings running around so utterly ignorant of their surroundings.

I HAVE cracked a biology book. I'm sorry, but evolution, no matter what you say about it, is not proven true, not even close. Evolution is completely circular thinking - date rocks by the fossils, then date the fossils by the rocks, etc etc etc.........

The Bible is very old - but it is not just man's words, it is inspired by God. Of course you guys won't believe me, and you'll think I'm a wacko, but that's fine with me because I know who will be right in the end. It gives something to live for too - if you don't believe it and are just living for what is now without anything eternal, what's the point of living? You guys might as well commit suicide and end your pitiful existence if there is nothing more after this life like you say. However, Christians have something to live for because they KNOW what is at the end - and know what is at the end for non-Christians too.

I can't help but notice that NO ONE has come up with an example of one species turning into another. Just as I thought, because there IS no example because it NEVER happened. No one has given an example of a hole in intelligent design.

I am not using lies to "save souls" - only you would think of that. I never said that no one is smarter than me - a lot of people ARE smarter than me by a huge amount. But people who buy into this who evolution thing are being somewhat ridiculous. How are the arguements refuted? Like what with what proof?

No one needs "evolution studies" because it is nonsense - no pieces of the evolutionary puzzle fit together. I've checked that stuff, nothing fits snugly. It only fits loosely at best, usually just falling apart. I do feel qualified enough to make a judgement like this because it is not rocket science to figure it out. Do you really think that this entire physical universe just put itself together? There is no way. Laws of nature show that stuff breaks down and heads towards entropy naturally - completely opposite of evolutionary theories. Besides, where did all this stuff come from? It had to come from somewhere.

Evolution isn't science - for years it has gone nowhere with no supporting "proof." It is still called a theory too, but everyone wants to act like it is a fact when it isn't by a long shot.

And I'm not "sticking my head in the sand" because I haven't gone away yet 🙂

I honestly feel sorry for all of you. You are really lost. You need God in your life to set you straight - I can't do that (obviously) but hopefully through me maybe God will use me to bring some from darkness into light.

So you are admitting that you cracked open a biology book and didn't learn a thing??!!

Wow, that is pretty amazing.

Evolution isn't science - for years it has gone nowhere with no supporting "proof." It is still called a theory too, but everyone wants to act like it is a fact when it isn't by a long shot.

You may want to tell all of those PhD, MSc and grad students that they are not studying a science. That all of the research they are doing is not science.
I am sure you have vast amounts of credentials to make sweeping statements that evolution is not a science and that a theory is meaningless.
What is your PhD in? What did you research for your post doc?

So, SparkyJJo is invoking the "incorrect because of incompleteness" logic??
"Your theory is invalid because it doesn't explain what happened to the unicorns."
😛

SparkyJJo is also making the "I read those words in a book someplace before. I'm not sure what they mean, but I think I know, so I can use them as proof that I'm right and you're wrong." argument.
(specifically: Sparky's 100% incorrect use of entropy as an argument against evolution)

 

[newParadigm]

Originally posted by: Gooberlx2

Originally posted by: ThePresence
I don't understand the outburst of anger in response to this. What is so terribly wrong with teaching kids both sides? Evolution is just as unproven as intelligent design. Evolution is a theory, intelligent design is a theory too, why is everyone so upset by this?



ID is not a scientific theory. It doesn't comply with the scientific method.

ID DOES comply with the scientific method.

Let me demonstrate.

Human life is too complex for the current theory of evolutionary theory to explain.

The above fact is based in Mathematical Probabilities that state that IF Man was to have evolved, it would have taken Trillions of years, not billions of years.

Because the current dating system we have (radioactive dating) states that the earth is aprox. 3 Billion years old, this theory must be incorrect.

So there are to possibilities;

1: The earth is A LOT older than we think

OR

2: Human life did not evolve through a recurrence of random events, but was influenced by some external intelligent force.

I don?t understand why it is so foreign and frowned upon by the scientific community that a being of higher powers than man might exist.


P.S. My girlfriends SN is goober, just thought u should know Gooberlx2

P.P.S. I make this post while reading The Elegant Universe, which is a 300 Page exposition of String Theory, so no, I am not a religiously blinded fool.





~new

 

[SparkyJJO]

You date the rocks by radioactive decay, then the fossils by the rocks

Radioactive decay, carbon dating, etc, are INACCURATE. It has been proven that it is not accurate at all, yet everyone thinks that it is the greatest thing around. It isn't.

Thermodynamics prove holes in intelligent design? Like, where? They don't prove any holes.

Check this website out

http://answersingenesis.org/home/area/qa.asp

Just read through any of those links there. Read it with an open mind, you might learn something!

Even Einstein's theory of relativity was untested, loosely drawn together conjecture at one point. Same with quantum electrodynamics... and those are two of the most beautiful, perfect, and highly tested theories we have come up with.

Yes, but those aren't dealing with such utter nonsense as evolution now where they? Besides, evolutionary theory came from some nutcase, not a scientific genius.

If you love God so much, why aren't you praying every day for a dump truck to run you over? After all, then you will be closer to God that much sooner. What is the point of living out life if all you think about is God and heaven? unnecessary foul language removed

That wouldn't be doing what he commanded. He said to go and make disciples of all the nations, not kill ourselves.

So you are admitting that you cracked open a biology book and didn't learn a thing??!!

I DID learn a whole bunch of stuff - but I spat out the bones.

You may want to tell all of those PhD, MSc and grad students that they are not studying a science. That all of the research they are doing is not science.

If they are doing research on trying to prove evolution is correct, then yes, they are doing something that is not a science. If they are doing OBJECTIVE research just to see whether it is true or not, and accept the truth when it comes, that is fine. But so many do SUBJECTIVE research to try and dig up stuff to "prove" evolution - look at all those guys who used monkey skulls and human teeth filed down to make them fit? They can't even be honest in their findings!

So, SparkyJJO is invoking the "incorrect because of incompleteness" logic??

No, I'm not. I'm invoking the "incorrect because of NO PROOF FOR and PROOF AGAINST" logic.

I don?t understand why it is so foreign and frowned upon by the scientific community that a being of higher powers than man might exist.

I do - they think they are God, and it threatens their pride to consider there may be someone higher up than they. Well, in my opinion, let them be threatened and knocked off, they don't belong up there anyway.

 

[Red Dawn]

Originally posted by: SparkyJJO

I don?t understand why it is so foreign and frowned upon by the scientific community that a being of higher powers than man might exist.

I do - they think they are God, and it threatens their pride to consider there may be someone higher up than they. Well, in my opinion, let them be threatened and knocked off, they don't belong up there anyway.

Dude, it's traditional for those like you to stick your head in the sand not up yer arse.

 

[maziwanka]

Originally posted by: Kev

Originally posted by: SparkyJJO
Personally I consider the whole theory of evolution comepletely demeaning. I mean, it sounds so uplifting to come from a monkey - or even better, slime. Oh, goody..... :roll:
All Darwin did was make the term "monkey's uncle" a "reality" to those who are dumb enough to accept it. I am glad to see at least SOMEONE saw the big mess evolution is and decided to turn something around. All those massive holes in the theory and all, I still don't know how that became so-called "science" when there is NO PROOF of ANY of this - actually evolution has been DISPROVED several times. And what holes in intelligent design? Give me a few examples!
Look, if there is a God (which I believe there is), don't you think he would be powerful enough to create EVERYTHING in 1 SECOND if he so desired? And what "physical evidence" is there that the earth is millions of years old? Absolutely none. That "carbon-dating" thing that they use is full of flaws too, I'll bet you that if you took a piece of a dog's bone that you know is only 50 years old or so and have them carbon-date it, they'll tell you it is several hundred thousand years old.

I'm not saying lawsuits etc are the right way to go about all this though.

Sad.

you realize that if the world consisted of more ppl like sparkyjjo we'd still be in the fvcking stone age.

 

[Fausto]

Originally posted by: maziwanka

Originally posted by: Kev

Originally posted by: SparkyJJO
Personally I consider the whole theory of evolution comepletely demeaning. I mean, it sounds so uplifting to come from a monkey - or even better, slime. Oh, goody..... :roll:
All Darwin did was make the term "monkey's uncle" a "reality" to those who are dumb enough to accept it. I am glad to see at least SOMEONE saw the big mess evolution is and decided to turn something around. All those massive holes in the theory and all, I still don't know how that became so-called "science" when there is NO PROOF of ANY of this - actually evolution has been DISPROVED several times. And what holes in intelligent design? Give me a few examples!
Look, if there is a God (which I believe there is), don't you think he would be powerful enough to create EVERYTHING in 1 SECOND if he so desired? And what "physical evidence" is there that the earth is millions of years old? Absolutely none. That "carbon-dating" thing that they use is full of flaws too, I'll bet you that if you took a piece of a dog's bone that you know is only 50 years old or so and have them carbon-date it, they'll tell you it is several hundred thousand years old.

I'm not saying lawsuits etc are the right way to go about all this though.

Sad.

you realize that if the world consisted of more ppl like sparkyjjo we'd still be in the fvcking stone age.

Wow. I've seen some stupid sh*t posted here, but this might take the cake. :Q

 

[maziwanka]

Originally posted by: Fausto

Originally posted by: maziwanka

Originally posted by: Kev

Originally posted by: SparkyJJO
Personally I consider the whole theory of evolution comepletely demeaning. I mean, it sounds so uplifting to come from a monkey - or even better, slime. Oh, goody..... :roll:
All Darwin did was make the term "monkey's uncle" a "reality" to those who are dumb enough to accept it. I am glad to see at least SOMEONE saw the big mess evolution is and decided to turn something around. All those massive holes in the theory and all, I still don't know how that became so-called "science" when there is NO PROOF of ANY of this - actually evolution has been DISPROVED several times. And what holes in intelligent design? Give me a few examples!
Look, if there is a God (which I believe there is), don't you think he would be powerful enough to create EVERYTHING in 1 SECOND if he so desired? And what "physical evidence" is there that the earth is millions of years old? Absolutely none. That "carbon-dating" thing that they use is full of flaws too, I'll bet you that if you took a piece of a dog's bone that you know is only 50 years old or so and have them carbon-date it, they'll tell you it is several hundred thousand years old.

I'm not saying lawsuits etc are the right way to go about all this though.

Sad.

you realize that if the world consisted of more ppl like sparkyjjo we'd still be in the fvcking stone age.

Wow. I've seen some stupid sh*t posted here, but this might take the cake. :Q

i want to requote this for effect. hahaha. did you read sparky's last post? his logic skills are amazing.

 

[Spencer278]

Originally posted by: newParadime

Originally posted by: Gooberlx2

Originally posted by: ThePresence
I don't understand the outburst of anger in response to this. What is so terribly wrong with teaching kids both sides? Evolution is just as unproven as intelligent design. Evolution is a theory, intelligent design is a theory too, why is everyone so upset by this?



ID is not a scientific theory. It doesn't comply with the scientific method.

ID DOES comply with the scientific method.

Let me demonstrate.

Human life is too complex for the current theory of evolutionary theory to explain.

The above fact is based in Mathematical Probabilities that state that IF Man was to have evolved, it would have taken Trillions of years, not billions of years.

Because the current dating system we have (radioactive dating) states that the earth is aprox. 3 Billion years old, this theory must be incorrect.

So there are to possibilities;

1: The earth is A LOT older than we think

OR

2: Human life did not evolve through a recurrence of random events, but was influenced by some external intelligent force.

I don?t understand why it is so foreign and frowned upon by the scientific community that a being of higher powers than man might exist.


P.S. My girlfriends SN is goober, just thought u should know Gooberlx2

P.P.S. I make this post while reading The Elegant Universe, which is a 300 Page exposition of String Theory, so no, I am not a religiously blinded fool.





~new

You are right that the chance of a person evolving is extremly low. What we don't have a clue is how many other options are equal. IE would it make a difference if people evolved with 4 toes instead of 5 or infitinte other equally good combinitions. Nor do we have any idea how many different locations people could evolve. That is why you can't look at an event and say it didn't happen when the event did happen.

 

[Fausto]

Originally posted by: maziwanka

Originally posted by: Fausto

Originally posted by: maziwanka

Originally posted by: Kev

Originally posted by: SparkyJJO
Personally I consider the whole theory of evolution comepletely demeaning. I mean, it sounds so uplifting to come from a monkey - or even better, slime. Oh, goody..... :roll:
All Darwin did was make the term "monkey's uncle" a "reality" to those who are dumb enough to accept it. I am glad to see at least SOMEONE saw the big mess evolution is and decided to turn something around. All those massive holes in the theory and all, I still don't know how that became so-called "science" when there is NO PROOF of ANY of this - actually evolution has been DISPROVED several times. And what holes in intelligent design? Give me a few examples!
Look, if there is a God (which I believe there is), don't you think he would be powerful enough to create EVERYTHING in 1 SECOND if he so desired? And what "physical evidence" is there that the earth is millions of years old? Absolutely none. That "carbon-dating" thing that they use is full of flaws too, I'll bet you that if you took a piece of a dog's bone that you know is only 50 years old or so and have them carbon-date it, they'll tell you it is several hundred thousand years old.

I'm not saying lawsuits etc are the right way to go about all this though.

Sad.

you realize that if the world consisted of more ppl like sparkyjjo we'd still be in the fvcking stone age.

Wow. I've seen some stupid sh*t posted here, but this might take the cake. :Q

i want to requote this for effect. hahaha. did you read sparky's last post? his logic skills are amazing.

Seriously.

"The fossil record and years of scientific research by actual scientists is FULL OF HOLES but the idea that the big magic fairy in the sky waved his hand and made everything is utterly beyond reproach!!"

I mean, yikes....and stuff.

 

[ScoobMaster]

Originally posted by: SparkyJJO

You date the rocks by radioactive decay, then the fossils by the rocks

Radioactive decay, carbon dating, etc, are INACCURATE. It has been proven that it is not accurate at all, yet everyone thinks that it is the greatest thing around. It isn't.

Thermodynamics prove holes in intelligent design? Like, where? They don't prove any holes.

Check this website out

http://answersingenesis.org/home/area/qa.asp

Just read through any of those links there. Read it with an open mind, you might learn something!

Sparky - C'mon.

You seriously believe what you read at Ken Hamm's website (though I suppose that is better than posting a link to "Dr. Dino" Kent Hovind ).

Try applying a wee bit of critcal thinking on this topic...........