Evolution happening before our very eyes? Awesome.

[PhineasJWhoopee]

Called it.

Okay, bravo.

So why are you an ex "bible thumper"?

 

[DAPUNISHER]

I think that the statement was completely apporpriate.


Closet racists tend to avoid owning their views on race. They often point to other groups, using terms such as "they," or "those people".

Context is everything. He was inferring you are a member of a group he does not care for, yes. However, your position that it makes him a racist, and/or supporter of genocide, is just silly. That or the Nazi accusation is due to suffering from persecutory delusions.

 

[Nik]

Y'know, I've always been bothered by the way people mocked these comments by President Clinton. I mean, no doubt, he was trying to weasel around things, so I'm not trying to defend his testimony, per se, but the fact is that "sex" and "is," while obviously short and easy to spell, do not have totally rigorous definitions in common usage.

Is a hand job "sex"? It's certainly sexual, but is it "sex"? Mutual masturbation is sexual, but few would call that "sex." There is a bit of arbitrariness in deciding what activities fall into the category of "sex."

It's even worse with "is," which is what bothers me the most when people make fun of it like it should be obvious. "Is" can denote an identity, or it can simply denote attribution. It easily causes confusion because of its ambiguous meanings, particularly in the reification of abstractions.

It just seems painfully sophomoric to mock the suggestion of valid distinctions as if the fact that the word is only two letters must mean that it's meaning is also very simple and obvious.

Think of it this way: "is" is the present tense of the verb "to be." What is the meaning of "to be"? What does it mean to be? What is being? These are questions that may have no real clear answer at all, and they have challenged philosophers for centuries to find good answers, but still we just carry on using the word a thousand times a day as if its meaning were a given.

Anyway, that's my little rant/digression.

Let us return to our regularly scheduled flame war, already in progress...

Sex is not limited to intercourse. A handy is a sexual act. An act of sex. A type of sex. No, it's not a type of intercourse, but it is indeed sex0ring.

 

[PhineasJWhoopee]

Please prove that I'm racist or hate anyone.

If you can prove it, I'll admit it publicly and admit that you're right about everything.

Oh, and if you can't or if you reply with another question, you automatically agree that I'm right and that you're nothing more than an ignorant, pathetic troll.

I don't need to "prove" anything, your words speak for themselves.

 

[Nik]

Okay, bravo.

So why are you an ex "bible thumper"?

To be completely honest, I'm willing to engage you in civil, mature discussion on the matter. However, I do not believe that you are capable of civil, mature discussion based on practically every thread I've seen you posting in with a religious nature. Sure, it may start that way, but you very quickly degrade into silly nonsense like you've done here time and time again.

If you're legitimately interested in having that discussion, read the links we've provided. Go back through this thread and answer the pointed questions people have asked you that you purposefully evade.

Earn it.

I'll wait.

 

[Nik]

I don't need to "prove" anything, your words speak for themselves.

That's right, they do. They don't include anything having to do with race.

Your accusations also speak for themselves, only they say that you either do not have a grip on the English language (are you from another country, maybe?) or that you are intentionally acting like an imbecile.

Which is it?

 

[xSauronx]

You asked the first 117 versions.

Would you care to act like an adult yet? You have yet to answer ANY of my legitimate questions in this thread (or anyone else's, for that matter).

You are absolutely the WORST debater I've ever seen on these forums and I've been here a freakin decade.

I mean, fuck, you're worse than I was when I was a bible thumper here.

jesus i totally missed all of that
now i feel deprived

 

[PhineasJWhoopee]

To be completely honest, I'm willing to engage you in civil, mature discussion on the matter. However, I do not believe that you are capable of civil, mature discussion based on practically every thread I've seen you posting in with a religious nature. Sure, it may start that way, but you very quickly degrade into silly nonsense like you've done here time and time again.

If you're legitimately interested in having that discussion, read the links we've provided. Go back through this thread and answer the pointed questions people have asked you that you purposefully evade.

Earn it.

I'll wait.

If I choose to read it, I'll do it on my own time, not when you tell me.

Frankly, I don't have to "earn" anything from you.

I'm not going to answer a question unless I understand it. If asking for clarification bothers you, too bad.

If you're looking for someone to bow to you, you have the wrong guy.

 

[Nik]

If I choose to read it, I'll do it on my own time, not when you tell me.

Why did you ask for it when you weren't willing to read it? Your cry for proof was a bluff? You're close-minded, I see.

Frankly, I don't have to "earn" anything from you.

I'm not going to answer a question unless I understand it. If asking for clarification bothers you, too bad.

If you're looking for someone to bow to you, you have the wrong guy.

If you don't answer anything you don't understand, you're basically saying that you don't understand anything because you haven't answered anything.

You just called yourself a dumbass.

Good job, duder.

I'm not looking for someone to bow to me in the slightest. I'm looking for someone to show that they're actually interested in civil, mature debate. You clearly are not ready to be civil or mature and continue to prove it with each post.

 

[Ruptga]

If you knew what bigot meant, you'd know it wouldn't fit with being equal opportunity.

Again, before you introduced the concept of race into this, when did ANYONE mention any kind of race?

Hmm?

Are you going to reply with another bullshit question, refusing to address the issue?

I mean, fuck, you're worse than I was when I was a bible thumper here.

Looks like you've come 180 degrees. How do you explain your conversion or unconversion?

Called it.

Ok, I take it back

 

[Cerpin Taxt]

Sex is not limited to intercourse. A handy is a sexual act. An act of sex. A type of sex. No, it's not a type of intercourse, but it is indeed sex0ring.

I don't really disagree, but the point is that its meaning is hardly clear-cut. If your mom gave me a handjob, and I went around telling people I "had sex" with her (like I usually do x 2), you'd probably object that I was misleading people.

 

[PhineasJWhoopee]

Why did you ask for it when you weren't willing to read it? Your cry for proof was a bluff? You're close-minded, I see.



If you don't answer anything you don't understand, you're basically saying that you don't understand anything because you haven't answered anything.

You just called yourself a dumbass.

Good job, duder.

I'm not looking for someone to bow to me in the slightest. I'm looking for someone to show that they're actually interested in civil, mature debate. You clearly are not ready to be civil or mature and continue to prove it with each post.

I asked for a link? When?

If you understand what you linked, you should be able to explain it to me.

Go ahead, I'm listening.

 

[xSauronx]

I asked for a link? When?

If you understand what you linked, you should be able to explain it to me.

Go ahead, I'm listening.

/facepalm

 

[PhineasJWhoopee]

Bible thumper is a pejorative term used to describe Christians in general, especially someone perceived as aggressively pushing their Christian beliefs upon those who do not share them. Its target domain is broad and can often extend to anyone engaged in a public show of religion, fundamentalist or not.

So, Nik. I haven't pushed any beliefs on anyone. On the contrary, I believe in the freedom to chose and the right to believe whatever you desire. Then you must think that anyone who publically expresses Christian faith is a "bile thumper", is that correct?

 

[Nik]

I don't really disagree, but the point is that its meaning is hardly clear-cut. If your mom gave me a handjob, and I went around telling people I "had sex" with her (like I usually do x 2), you'd probably object that I was misleading people.

I dunno, I'd probably be pretty happy that somebody finally cleaned her pipes, hoping you got more than a handy. That woman needs an outlet for stress like nobody's business.

Would you like her number?

 

[Nik]

I asked for a link? When?

If you understand what you linked, you should be able to explain it to me.

Go ahead, I'm listening.

Are you implying that you are incapable of understanding mature, intelligent explanation from the source and that you need me to translate into kiddy-speak for you to understand?

 

[Nik]

Bible thumper is a pejorative term used to describe Christians in general, especially someone perceived as aggressively pushing their Christian beliefs upon those who do not share them. Its target domain is broad and can often extend to anyone engaged in a public show of religion, fundamentalist or not.

So, Nik. I haven't pushed any beliefs on anyone. On the contrary, I believe in the freedom to chose and the right to believe whatever you desire. Then you must think that anyone who publically expresses Christian faith is a "bile thumper", is that correct?

What do you mean by "bible thumper?"

I don't remember calling you a bible thumper.

Now go look up "troll."

 

[zinfamous]

Bible thumper is a pejorative term used to describe Christians in general, especially someone perceived as aggressively pushing their Christian beliefs upon those who do not share them. Its target domain is broad and can often extend to anyone engaged in a public show of religion, fundamentalist or not.

So, Nik. I haven't pushed any beliefs on anyone. On the contrary, I believe in the freedom to chose and the right to believe whatever you desire. Then you must think that anyone who publically expresses Christian faith is a "bile thumper", is that correct?

My mother is an ordained minister, yet would never be considered a bible thumper by even the most ardent atheist. I dare say she has certainly "engaged in public displays of her belief." it's her job.

I've known plenty of people heavily involved in church activity while growing up, very few of them would I consider bible thumpers.



so....I'm not so sure that your broader perception of the term is accurate.

 

[sandorski]

How to spot a Bible Thumper

Mention Evolution, Gays, or Abortion. They'll stick out like a sore thumb.

 

[Nik]

Where'd he go? Did he crawl back under his rock?

 

[Cerpin Taxt]

Would you like her number?

Oh, I have it. Don't worry. It's written on the stall in the Mod's dungeon bathroom. :twisted:

 

[PhineasJWhoopee]

Are you implying that you are incapable of understanding mature, intelligent explanation from the source and that you need me to translate into kiddy-speak for you to understand?

That's right.

 

[Nik]

Oh, I have it. Don't worry. It's written on the stall in the Mod's dungeon bathroom. :twisted:

Hahaha. We really need our animated laughing emoticon back.

 

[Nik]

That's right.

I gotta hand it to you. It takes a real man to admit that he's incapable of understanding the simplest of concepts.

Then again, your mental deficiencies have already lead you down a path to religion so I really do believe you when you agree that you do not have the facilities to process things like logic, reason, and science.

 

[theprodigalrebel]

Holy Great Juju Up the Mountain, this thread is infuriating. Great troll is great. Knows exactly how to drag things to ridiculous levels while avoiding the banhammer.