Evidence Mounts That The Vote Was Hacked

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glugglug

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In all seriousness guys, this means my fellow libs, you are barking up the wrong tree here.

The allegations made from the links in the OP are simply wrong. Someone got the democrat & republican registration and expected turnout percentages reversed for the op-scan counties (which are all out in the boonies and really are red BTW), and it is getting quoted all over the place. These particular allegations about the vote #s just being switched will prove to be wrong, and the neocons will bump all the posts about these particular pages every time the real problems are brought up later. Some touch-screen counties in that list, such as Hillsborough, truly appear fraudulent BTW, and instead you guys keep pointing out the likely correct auditable op-scan numbers.

Edit: WOW, that site now has their sources linked: According to the pdf at Florida states official election stats site here: http://election.dos.state.fl.u.../2004/2004pppParty.pdf, those registration numbers are correct. I have a hard time buying them, but direct from the state does add a lot more plausability to it at least.
 

Infohawk

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Originally posted by: Pliablemoose

I've posted in public a couple of times you're blocked, I'm not hiding behind a fake account about it either.

Likewise I've posted a couple times in public that you hate PM'd me and subsequently blocked me when I told you to get help for yourself.
 

CADsortaGUY

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www.ShawCAD.com
Originally posted by: Gaard
Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY
Originally posted by: Gaard
I still want to know why CAD thinks the accusations were 'absurd' and 'wild'.

Which ones? The ones about Crimson?

CsG

yes

Because Maximilian Kolbe has been around before and infotroll accused him of being Crimson. And also in regards to this new "eclavatar" member - I see no reason to not believe what Crimson has told me - which is that it is not him. Do you want the msn messenger log? :roll:

Ofcourse you both could offer some proof to back up your accusations but infotroll's track record on calling people on returned members has been dismal at best. Find proof and then we'll talk - until then they are absurd and wild accusations.

CsG
 

Infohawk

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Originally posted by: Pliablemoose

Infohawk, quite honestly I have no respect for anyone that reveals so little about themselves as you do, everything about you is secret.

LOL.
 

Gaard

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Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY
Originally posted by: Gaard
Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY
Originally posted by: Gaard
I still want to know why CAD thinks the accusations were 'absurd' and 'wild'.

Which ones? The ones about Crimson?

CsG

yes

Because Maximilian Kolbe has been around before and infotroll accused him of being Crimson. And also in regards to this new "eclavatar" member - I see no reason to not believe what Crimson has told me - which is that it is not him. Do you want the msn messenger log? :roll:

Ofcourse you both could offer some proof to back up your accusations but infotroll's track record on calling people on returned members has been dismal at best. Find proof and then we'll talk - until then they are absurd and wild accusations.

CsG

For the accusations to NOT be 'absurd' and 'wild', they need to be correct? Sorry CAD, that doesn't make sense.
 

imhotepmp

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Originally posted by: glugglug
In all seriousness guys, this means my fellow libs, you are barking up the wrong tree here.

The allegations made from the links in the OP are simply wrong. Someone got the democrat & republican registration and expected turnout percentages reversed for the op-scan counties (which are all out in the boonies and really are red BTW), and it is getting quoted all over the place. These particular allegations about the vote #s just being switched will prove to be wrong, and the neocons will bump all the posts about these particular pages every time the real problems are brought up later. Some touch-screen counties in that list, such as Hillsborough, truly appear fraudulent BTW, and instead you guys keep pointing out the likely correct auditable op-scan numbers.


How do you know that the registrations were switched?

Imouthes
 

bozack

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honestly you guys are pathetic....

Until this is covered by a "real" source why bother wasting your time and effort hoping for this pipe dream??

get a life, get over it....the fat lady has sung and the Dems/Kerry/ Kennedy/ Soros and all the libs on here turned up a bunch of losers this time around....maybe next time things will work in your favor, but crying on here about fraud and linking to garbage sites will get you no where.
 

Gaard

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I wouldn't respect him either Pliablemoose, he probably talks to God. ;)
 

Infohawk

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Originally posted by: Pliablemoose

How old are you, where do you live, on & on, show me your profile enabled or share a little, everyone else does...

Who cares what everyone else does?


You're pretty vocal for someone that shares nothing about themselves.

So what?


 

bozack

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Originally posted by: Pliablemoose
How old are you, where do you live, on & on, show me your profile enabled or share a little, everyone else does...

Look @ how many people have their profiles enabled. You're pretty vocal for someone that shares nothing about themselves.

word of advice, don't waste your time nor energy on Infohawk....he isn't worth it.
 

Pliablemoose

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Originally posted by: Gaard
I wouldn't respect him either Pliablemoose, he probably talks to God. ;)

Gotta be honest here, I talk to god, but he doesn't talk back unless I've taken a lot of hallucinogens.
 

Pliablemoose

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Originally posted by: bozack
Originally posted by: Pliablemoose
How old are you, where do you live, on & on, show me your profile enabled or share a little, everyone else does...

Look @ how many people have their profiles enabled. You're pretty vocal for someone that shares nothing about themselves.

word of advice, don't waste your time nor energy on Infohawk....he isn't worth it.

I know, I'll just STFU, it's hard though...:|
 

Infohawk

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Originally posted by: bozack

word of advice, don't waste your time nor energy on Infohawk....he isn't worth it.

Maybe you should have told that to pliable BEFORE he hate PMed me out of the blue.
 

Gaard

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Originally posted by: Pliablemoose
Originally posted by: Infohawk
Originally posted by: Pliablemoose

Infohawk, quite honestly I have no respect for anyone that reveals so little about themselves as you do, everything about you is secret.

LOL.

How old are you, where do you live, on & on, show me your profile enabled or share a little, everyone else does...

Look @ how many people have their profiles enabled. You're pretty vocal for someone that shares nothing about themselves.

You tell him No Fingers!

 

glugglug

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Originally posted by: imhotepmp

How do you know that the registrations were switched?

Imouthes


It just doesn't make any sense that many of the counties consisting of nothing but lily-white christian farmers out in BFE are listed with a higher percentage of democrats than the county well-known to be the most liberal in the state which has a jewish population 2nd only to New York in this country. Reversed the registration numbers make sense given what areas they are for.
 

nRollo

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This is pathetic.

Why you guys can't believe your candidate just plain lost the election is WAY beyond me.

Did the Democrats win and take over seats in the Senate? No, they're in a worse minority than before.

Did the Democrats win back seats in the House? No, again, lost ground there too.

So why do you think when obviously more people are voting for Republican legislators that we would have a Dem President????????

Doesn't make a lot of sense, does it?

The fact of the matter is that the country is by and large prosperous now. The military backs it's commander in chief. There's not a big target audience for ghey rights, stem cell research, and no one much cares what Kerry did in Nam. Nobody that makes much money wants to see Kerry repeal their tax cut, and some of us actually believe helping large corps prosper makes more sense for the economy than bolstering welfare programs.

Look at the last 35 years Dems. You guys just haven't had much luck convincing the country your tax n spend ways help us. Your last champion's sleazy behaviour in the Oval Office might have sunk your party for the next 20 years, but I do hope and pray you all help nominate his "wife".
 

Gaard

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Originally posted by: Pliablemoose
Originally posted by: Gaard
I wouldn't respect him either Pliablemoose, he probably talks to God. ;)

Gotta be honest here, I talk to god, but he doesn't talk back unless I've taken a lot of hallucinogens.

Does this mean we shouldn't take you seriously?
 

Pliablemoose

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Originally posted by: Gaard
Originally posted by: Pliablemoose
Originally posted by: Gaard
I wouldn't respect him either Pliablemoose, he probably talks to God. ;)

Gotta be honest here, I talk to god, but he doesn't talk back unless I've taken a lot of hallucinogens.

Does this mean we shouldn't take you seriously?

Yes...

Although the statute of limitations on the hallucinogen use has long since expired;)
 

glugglug

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Originally posted by: Rollo
Did the Democrats win and take over seats in the Senate? No, they're in a worse minority than before.

Did the Democrats win back seats in the House? No, again, lost ground there too.

So why do you think when obviously more people are voting for Republican legislators that we would have a Dem President????????

Doesn't make a lot of sense, does it?

Here's the flaw in that logic: We don't trust the elections for house/senate positions this year either. Also, people often vote for the opposite party on legislative positions vs. president to try to preserve the checks and balances system (which is pretty much fvcked right now).


Nobody that makes much money wants to see Kerry repeal their tax cut, and some of us actually believe helping large corps prosper makes more sense for the economy than bolstering welfare programs.
He said the only ones getting a tax cut repealed were the ones making $200K+. I believe him. Even though they are an extreme minority, they do account for the majority of the tax dollars and a huge difference can be made there.

You guys just haven't had much luck convincing the country your tax n spend ways help us.
No Democrat has ever matched the ridiculous spending of either Bush. Or Reagan for that matter.

 

nRollo

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Originally posted by: glugglug
Originally posted by: Rollo
Did the Democrats win and take over seats in the Senate? No, they're in a worse minority than before.

Did the Democrats win back seats in the House? No, again, lost ground there too.

So why do you think when obviously more people are voting for Republican legislators that we would have a Dem President????????

Doesn't make a lot of sense, does it?


Here's the flaw in that logic: We don't trust the elections for house/senate positions this year either. Also, people often vote for the opposite party on legislative positions vs. president to try to preserve the checks and balances system (which is pretty much fvcked right now).

Here's the flaw in your argument: Checks and Balances is about the three branches of government: Executive, Judicial, Legislature. It has nothing to do with party lines. They taught you that in school. We're supposed to trust your opinion when you don't know something as basic as that?!


Nobody that makes much money wants to see Kerry repeal their tax cut, and some of us actually believe helping large corps prosper makes more sense for the economy than bolstering welfare programs.
He said the only ones getting a tax cut repealed were the ones making $200K+. I believe him. Even though they are an extreme minority, they do account for the majority of the tax dollars and a huge difference can be made there.
Why do those people not deserve a tax cut and people that make less do? Why do you want to punish economic success in a country that was built on people striving for it? Kerry deserves the drubbing he received for even suggesting something as assinine as this- this is not Communist Russia of the 70s where the Party gets all wealth.


You guys just haven't had much luck convincing the country your tax n spend ways help us.
No Democrat has ever matched the ridiculous spending of either Bush. Or Reagan for that matter.
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Gee, go figure. We're spending a lot of money trying to run two countries halfway around the world. Wouldn't have guessed a war would cost anything. :roll: