EVGA GTX 780ti Classified K|NGP|N - where are the reviews?

[dmoney1980]

As the title states, how come there aren't any professional reviews of this monster GPU out there?

 

[Face2Face]

As the title states, how come there aren't any professional reviews of this monster GPU out there?

Here is one -

http://www.hardwareasylum.com/reviews/video/evga_gtx780ti_classified-kp

 

[bubbabigsexy]

The problem with this review, is that it is only looking at games that came out 3 years ago. No BF3 or BF4, Crysis 3, The Witcher 2.......Games that are popular today. I'd also be interested in seeing some other reviews/comparisons.

 

[rtsurfer]

The problem with this review, is that it is only looking at games that came out 3 years ago. No BF3 or BF4, Crysis 3, The Witcher 2.......Games that are popular today. I'd also be interested in seeing some other reviews/comparisons.

Well to be honest, this isn't a new GPU
It is just a higher clocking 780 Ti Classified( highly dependent on your cooling).

Most (all) reviewers do not go over official volts 1.2V. So there is nothing for them to review.
When you flash custom BIOS & raise the Volts on water is when this card shines.
Don't know any reviewer who uses that method of testing cards.

 

[Sohaltang]

Take the reviews for the 780TI classified and add 10% performance increased *IF* your going to put it under water. If not then its going to act just like the 780TI classified.

I have 2 of the non kingpin editions. They overclock ok on air. IMO I should have just got 2 EVGA OC editions.

 

[Face2Face]

Take the reviews for the 780TI classified and add 10% performance increased *IF* your going to put it under water. If not then its going to act just like the 780TI classified.

I have 2 of the non kingpin editions. They overclock ok on air. IMO I should have just got 2 EVGA OC editions.

You might wanna change your sig, it says you have MSI cards :sneaky:

Unless you are a hardcore bencher, there is really no point in buying the K|ngp|n cards over the standard GTX 780 Ti Classifieds. The cards were created to break world records in synthetic benchmarks.

 

[blackened23]

As the title states, how come there aren't any professional reviews of this monster GPU out there?

This card is designed not for air overclocking. It is designed for extreme overclocking such as LN2.

With that being the case, you really won't see much in the way of air overclocked reviews. Such a review would be utterly pointless, since the entire strength of the card is that it is designed for performance under an LN2 pot.

So what i'm saying here is, don't expect to see reviews of it. An air overclocked review of the kingpin edition cards would be a waste of time, because that isn't the strength of the card. It might overclock 10-20mhz higher on air, but it will overclock hundreds of MHz higher on LN2. It has all of the extreme nutso type stuff for LN2 competitors already on board; and all of that stuff is 100% worthless for air overclocking.

 

[blackened23]

You might wanna change your sig, it says you have MSI cards :sneaky:

Unless you are a hardcore bencher, there is really no point in buying the K|ngp|n cards over the standard GTX 780 Ti Classifieds. The cards were created to break work records in synthetic benchmarks.

I could see someone buying a classified since they're binned chips and have software over-voltage.

But even in that context, the kingpin cards are overkill. You're right about the kingpin card. They basically offer nothing that is semi useful for air overclocking over the classified; the kingpin card was designed for extreme overclocking. By extreme I mean, extreme other than air overclocking; in other words LN2 competitions.

 

[Pandamonia]

Heres a review:

Overpriced waste of money for people with more cash than brains.

Verdict: Rip off.

 

[rtsurfer]

Heres a review:

Overpriced waste of money for people with more cash than brains.

Verdict: Rip off.

Here's something for you.

You don't know what you are talking about.

 

[Face2Face]

Heres a review:

Overpriced waste of money for people with more cash than brains.

Verdict: Rip off.

Best review ever?

 

[blackened23]

Heres a review:

Overpriced waste of money for people with more cash than brains.

Verdict: Rip off.

You have no idea what you're talking about. If you're in the target market for the card, which is NOT AIR OVERCLOCKING, it delivers in spades.

Of course people don't understand this, and that is why EVGA didn't' send it out to review websites. Because review websites don't put GPUs under LN2 pots and do LN2 extreme comparisons. That is what the card is designed for. And that is where users benefit from it - extreme non air overclocking. If you want to hit 1900 mhz at a competition, this is the card you want. For world records, there are major competitions all across Europe for this sorta thing, with money on the line. With the kingpin you don't have to mod your card with an extra VRM and all that nonsense, because it's already all there.

Anyone that buys a kingpin for air overclocking is either stupid, uninformed or just has that much money to waste and wastes their money for the heck of it because they don't care.

 

[Sohaltang]

You might wanna change your sig, it says you have MSI cards :sneaky:

LOL I had 2X MSI TFIII 7950's. Guess I only edited part of it

 

[rtsurfer]

SNIP

Exactly.
Thia is the first time I completely agree with something you have written on this forum.

People are complaining are saying something is useless & a rip off because it is a too rich for their blood.
Even if they got one, they wouldn't know what to do with it.

If something is not targeted at you, doesn't mean its useless for everyone else.

 

[guskline]

As the title states, how come there aren't any professional reviews of this monster GPU out there?

I hope I don't get in trouble with the moderator for saying this but
Try overclockers.net

I read their EVGA Classified thread and find tons of info on the 780, 780TI and 780 Kingpin Classified. I own a 780 Classified and from my experience with it, it really shines when water cooled. I agree with blackened23 that buying a Kingpin without watercooling is not $$ well spent.

BTW, My temps for my gpu clocked at 1296 core 1704 memory with the skyn3t.rev4 BIOS is idle 26C and fullbore 41 C. I use the Classified voltage software tool to set vcore at 1.26v. I'm pretty conservative. If you go on that forum you will see higher clocks.

Suffice it to say the Classified series is built for overclocking and the Kingpin is the pinnacle.

 

[Face2Face]

Try overclockers.net

How dare you Gus I demand you remove that link this instant!

As Blackend and Rtsurfer said, this card is a Top fuel dragster, it's not meant to play Minecraft at 1024x768. You gotta pay to play when it comes to extreme LN2 competitions and this is the card you want to bring.

 

[guskline]

How dare you Gus I demand you remove that link this instant!

As Blackend and Rtsurfer said, this card is a Top fuel dragster, it's not meant to play Minecraft at 1024x768. You gotta pay to play when it comes to extreme LN2 competitions and this is the card you want to bring.

Funny but true. At 63 I still remember the day when "Big Daddy" Don Garlits came through our town with his dragster in tow in his trailer. HUBBA HUBBA!

 

[Pandamonia]

You have no idea what you're talking about. If you're in the target market for the card, which is NOT AIR OVERCLOCKING, it delivers in spades.

Of course people don't understand this, and that is why EVGA didn't' send it out to review websites. Because review websites don't put GPUs under LN2 pots and do LN2 extreme comparisons. That is what the card is designed for. And that is where users benefit from it - extreme non air overclocking. If you want to hit 1900 mhz at a competition, this is the card you want. For world records, there are major competitions all across Europe for this sorta thing, with money on the line. With the kingpin you don't have to mod your card with an extra VRM and all that nonsense, because it's already all there.

Anyone that buys a kingpin for air overclocking is either stupid, uninformed or just has that much money to waste and wastes their money for the heck of it because they don't care.

Its a GPU.

It comes with an Aircooler.

i bet 90% of these sold will never see anything but being used in a gaming rig.

That being an AMAZING(not) 1300mhz OC on Air.

 

[Tristor]

Its a GPU.

It comes with an Aircooler.

i bet 90% of these sold will never see anything but being used in a gaming rig.

That being an AMAZING(not) 1300mhz OC on Air.

Considering it's a limited release at a higher cost, specifically contains information in the marketing material informing you that it's for extreme overclocking under sub-ambient methods, and that almost all the units were sold via pre-order and I think it's currently sold out, I'm going to guess that it's mostly going to people who actually know what they bought.

As much as people like to act like there's thousands of people in the world with more money than sense that just buy the most expensive thing all the time, there's very few people like that. In almost every case, people didn't come by their disposable income by being stupid and they're going to choose to spend it on the things they're interested in. The idea that they wouldn't do even basic reading about a product before purchasing it is ridiculous. While I'm not going to say it never happens, I'm going to say it's rare and that your statement is ridiculous.

 

[Sohaltang]

Considering it's a limited release at a higher cost, specifically contains information in the marketing material informing you that it's for extreme overclocking under sub-ambient methods, and that almost all the units were sold via pre-order and I think it's currently sold out, I'm going to guess that it's mostly going to people who actually know what they bought.

As much as people like to act like there's thousands of people in the world with more money than sense that just buy the most expensive thing all the time, there's very few people like that. In almost every case, people didn't come by their disposable income by being stupid and they're going to choose to spend it on the things they're interested in. The idea that they wouldn't do even basic reading about a product before purchasing it is ridiculous. While I'm not going to say it never happens, I'm going to say it's rare and that your statement is ridiculous.

Plenty in stock on evga. Only 100$ more than I paid for the regular classified. If they had been released I would have bought them. I mean if your in for 1520$ might as well go in for 1720$. Even if I had just bought the acX sc they would have been 730 each. When you gonna drop 1500$ on 2 cards 10% extra is not really a big deal. I would have paid that in tax if I purchased locally. 780ti's are just not cheap. Buy the Cadillac fully loaded if you going to buy a caddy.

 

[Wild Thing]

That thing should be called the "Johnny Holmes" Edition :wub:

 

[rtsurfer]

Its a GPU.

It comes with an Aircooler.

i bet 90% of these sold will never see anything but being used in a gaming rig.

That being an AMAZING(not) 1300mhz OC on Air.

http://www.overclock.net/t/1459307/official-evga-780-ti-classified-k-ngp-n-owners-club

Count how many people are on AIR there. There are a few, but Money doesn't mean Brains.

And how many are Benchers & barely game. Gaming is a second priority for those people.
And before you cry that it is Overclock.net so of course they are Overclockers.

That thread is the biggest club of KINGPIN owners anywhere on the Internet. There are quite a few people who own more than 1 KINGPIN.
That should give you a pretty good idea about the Demographic of the people buying that card.

 

[Tequila]

The problem with this review, is that it is only looking at games that came out 3 years ago. No BF3 or BF4, Crysis 3, The Witcher 2.......Games that are popular today. I'd also be interested in seeing some other reviews/comparisons.

At the very least it would be nice if they used Metro Last Light. I like games that come with built-in benchmarks and it doesn't get much easier than then Metro games.

 

[Grooveriding]

I bought two of these and ended up returning them. This card is not meant to run or air, or even water in some cases. It's a novelty card that someone using LN2 would find ideal, but other than that it is more a marketing card.

The plain Classified would serve you better and overall overclock better on air than the Kingpin would. The Kingpin uses specific VRAM that does not overclock as well on air as the VRAM found on the standard Classified does. Though it does overclock better than anything else when putting insane amounts of voltage through it, but nothing the card could withstand for constant gaming use.

The card is only suited for benchmarkers doing extreme runs and the vanilla Classified actually is a better overall performer if you're air-cooling.

FWIW I just ended up getting a pair of bone stock reference 780ti cards from EVGA and both can do 1300 core on 1.21V with a modded BIOS. I don't know how much stock to put in binning after that. It's mostly luck of the draw. I had two 780 Classifieds and one was a dog; needing 1.32V just to do 1300. Mostly random luck on the quality of your core overclocks imo.

If your goal is just to have the most bling card and that is why you want the Kingpin, then I would wait. There are likely going to be 6GB versions coming at some point and you'd probably want those, even though the additional VRAM is worthless, it will still be the most pimped out single GPU video card you can buy