EVGA GTX 570 Classified - Odd Gaming Performance

latches

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Hey guys. I own a GTX 570 Classified Edition from EGVA and overall its a great card but Ive been getting some weird gaming performance lately.

My specs:

CPU: i5 2500k OCed @ 4.2 GHz
RAM: 8GB GSkill RipJaws 9-9-9-24 (I think)
Videocard: GTX 570 Classified Edition 1280MB
OS: Windows 7 Ultimate 64bit
HDD : WD 640GB

With BF3:

Lowering the AA or the FXAA doesnt really make the game perform better. The frames remain at around 45 FPS but dip still to 30 FPS or less at times. With all settings maxed and 4XAA and FXAA high - I get the same FPS.

With Shogun 2:

Lowering the settings give me worse frames with stutter and slow down everywhere. There isnt much stutter at all when all settings are maxed and MLAA enabled.

I dont understand. I updated the BIOs of the GTX 570 and my first performance problems were solved. There had been a problem with my voltages before and the BIOs update solved that. My mobo BIOs are also up to date.

Some ideas:

RAM timings off? The overclock was done by changing the multiplier only and leaving the mobo to adjust the voltage itself using DVID I think - lol.

Turbo Mode? I read in another forum that that was an issue and that turning it off made things alright. (Im not at my computer right now so I cant check yet).

Does it downclock? Would it downclock after lowering the settings? I dont understand why it would. Temps and everything are okay. and in Shogun 2 it isnt downgrading the graphics.

What do you think? Let me know you guys. Thanks. :D
 
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ViRGE

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The first thing you should do is run a widely distributed benchmark like 3DMark, to see if your performance is in the ballpark of similar systems. It will be far easier to debug the issue with a good idea of where your performance is compared to where it should be.

And if you've turned Turbo off for your CPU, turn it back on. That should not be turned off.
 

latches

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Well I checked my BIOs - I DO have turbo off but I thought that I didnt need it with the overclock? My resolution is: 1680x1050.

I did do a benchmark with 3DMark. I got like 6000 something and other systems similar to mine get like...8000. :(...ish.
 

kalrith

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Run GPUZ and see what it says about your PCI-e settings. My 4870 was posting a really low 3DMark score, and I found that it was running in PCIeX1 mode :eek: Reseating the card fixed the problem and made it run in PCIeX16 mode like it should be.
 

latches

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Ok. Here is a pic of GPUz.

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Im about to run Unigine
 
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BD231

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If you're sitting at 4.2ghz default voltage definitely turn turbo off, otherwise you're jumping to 4.6ghz and letting your motherboard GUESS the voltage which is not advisable.

You're v ram limited in BF3 if you're running at hd resolutions. I run 19x12 with no AA and the game still manages to suck up over 1200mb's of frame buffer so you need to tweak your graphical settings. Turn everything to ultra accept for shadows (put shadows on low). Disable SSAO, FXAA, MSAA and you should drop down to about 1200mb's or less depending on your resolution. The game has to fit in your vram or you'll get poor performance.

Shogun 2 also uses massive amounts of vram, but it turns out that game is severely GPU limited on a single GPU. I ran it with 2 460's smooth as butter, where as you'll see any review with max settings on a top end single GPU get pretty poor performance. Here's a good overview of GTX 580's with 1.5gb and 3gb's of vram on shogun ~> http://www.hardwarecanucks.com/foru...ightning-xtreme-edition-xe-3gb-review-16.html ~ I'm sure driver updates have helped with performance since then but don't expect much, for whatever reason the game is a resource hog and I doubt you'll get much better than 30/40 fps at higher resolutions with just one GPU.

Learn your hardware limitations, a 570 is extremely vram limited in memory hog titles at HD resolutions so you need to adjust your settings to accommodate.
 

Jocelyn84

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OP is running 1680x1050 BD231

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BD231

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True, but being that his 3D mark score is accurate (I get a 6595 in 3d mark w/a gtx 480 @ 850) he has no system issues to address.

Here's a link to a typical gtx 570 3d mark score ~> http://community.futuremark.com/hardware/gpu ~ 5890 3d marks for a 570.

He's wrong there so I figure he's not disabling AA completely in BF hence the terrible performance, and shogun is an AMD evolved title that had performance issues right out of the gate on nVidia hardware. Disabling shadows alone is supposed to give you somewhere around 10 fps boost in that game. Very picky titles as far as performance goes, which is why I think he should take some more time out playing with the settings.
 
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latches

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Oh. Haha. According to what 3DMark was telling me it seemed like I had terrible scores. Fail. Thanks.
 

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BF3 is a pretty beefy game and if you have everything on Max the game may have some framerate issues. Try disabling SSAO and turn AA to 2x FXAA high. See what happens. My 570 sli cannot max it at 5760x1200 so it is way more intensive to run than say COD. I run the settings you are listing at 1920x1200 with sli.
 

Crap Daddy

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I have a GTX570 running at 800 core, same resolution on monitor, 2500K Oced to 4,2.
3Dmark is OK, I got 6200 something if i remember. There is no problem with VRAM, people should understand that BF3 uses as much VRAM as it has available adjusting textures accordingly so only your IQ will suffer. I play with ULTRA preset and highest FOV, vsync on and get between 45 and 60 on regular maps (large included) and maybe 45-50 with ocasional dips in B2K. You should have the same. That's how this game is performing so if you're not happy get a 550$ card and check it out.

Shogun 2 all maxed out is around 30-35 FPS, my son's playing so I don't know exactly.
But you say that you're stutters are gone when maxed out so what's the problem?
 

latches

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lol Crap Daddy - thanks for the input and comparison. I was actually able to make everything run better than that with a couple tweaks. I added some stuff through nVidia Control Panel and found something called the SMAA injector. Get very good frames in everything though.
 

BD231

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I have a GTX570 running at 800 core, same resolution on monitor, 2500K Oced to 4,2.
3Dmark is OK, I got 6200 something if i remember. There is no problem with VRAM, people should understand that BF3 uses as much VRAM as it has available adjusting textures accordingly so only your IQ will suffer. I play with ULTRA preset and highest FOV, vsync on and get between 45 and 60 on regular maps (large included) and maybe 45-50 with ocasional dips in B2K. You should have the same. That's how this game is performing so if you're not happy get a 550$ card and check it out.

Shogun 2 all maxed out is around 30-35 FPS, my son's playing so I don't know exactly.
But you say that you're stutters are gone when maxed out so what's the problem?

Is that why you have to scale back your settings on cards with lower vram?