EVGA 560 Ti 448 @$220 or Asus 7850 @$250?

[OILFIELDTRASH]

If anyone doesn't see the value of more efficient appliances, well then, what can you say? They are either really ignorant or lead a really sheltered existence. That is the type of life knowledge it was our parent's responsibility to have taught us. It's all about people feeling entitled to have anything they want. Anyway, you can't convince many of them. I just shake my head and ignore it, mostly. I sure don't try to get into a debate with someone who, basically, doesn't care.

Dude my pc is on about 5 hours a week. The rest of my online time is via smartphone or a laptop that pulls 30w. Id never recoup the $40 more I would spend in a 7850 in electricity.

 

[Silverforce11]

Dude my pc is on about 5 hours a week. The rest of my online time is via smartphone or a laptop that pulls 30w. Id never recoup the $40 more I would spend in a 7850 in electricity.

In your case, go for whatever bro. But some here are comparing cards based on a few bucks difference whilst ignoring the massive power savings.

In most places electricity (especially peak) is ~$0.3 USD/kwh. We're comparing OC vs OC here, when old 40nm tech OC consumes ~350W or more vs 150W that 78xx OC uses. It's a 200W difference.

Even if you use your GPU for gaming 1 hr per day average, in a year its ~$21. If its $0.2 per kwh, its ~$14.

If you game on average 2 hrs a day, that's $42 per year. Factoring in the idle time which is often much longer than gaming time... easily $50 per year or more.

Back to the point, ppl here are debating "value for money"... ?

ps. If you game 4 hrs a day.. you need to consider power use very very carefully into any "bang for buck" decision when purchasing GPUs. (Unless you are filthy rich and just don't give a damn, but then why come and ask for opinions at all about value??).

 

[Termie]

In your case, go for whatever bro. But some here are comparing cards based on a few bucks difference whilst ignoring the massive power savings.

In most places electricity (especially peak) is ~$0.3 USD/kwh. We're comparing OC vs OC here, when old 40nm tech OC consumes ~350W or more vs 150W that 78xx OC uses. It's a 200W difference.

Even if you use your GPU for gaming 1 hr per day average, in a year its ~$21. If its $0.2 per kwh, its ~$14.

If you game on average 2 hrs a day, that's $42 per year. Factoring in the idle time which is often much longer than gaming time... easily $50 per year or more.

Back to the point, ppl here are debating "value for money"... ?

ps. If you game 4 hrs a day.. you need to consider power use very very carefully into any "bang for buck" decision when purchasing GPUs. (Unless you are filthy rich and just don't give a damn, but then why come and ask for opinions at all about value??).

While this is very accurate in theory, most people simply won't view these costs on the same basis as upfront costs, and they may underestimate how much time they have the computer on (either at idle or load).

It would actually be interesting to take a poll on idle and gaming use on this forum. Any takers to set that up? Then we could put together a table of average power costs.

In my case, I'd estimate that going from a single card to crossfire cost me $11 in annual energy costs, plus the $150 I paid for the second card. Probably wouldn't have convinced me not to do it.

P.S. Still wondering how you like 7850OC vs. your old 5850 crossfire setup.

 

[aaksheytalwar]

People are forgetting the opportunity cost as well. If you pay less upfront, you can use the additional money saved in mutual funds or stocks and that should negate the effective savings

For instance, in India, it isn't that difficult to get 15-20%+ returns on stocks/MFs over a 5-10 year long period, annual compound return.

Although it may not matter much unless the return in USA is along similar lines where the best people get at least 20-30% compound annualized return on their investments

 

[KompuKare]

While this is very accurate in theory, most people simply won't view these costs on the same basis as upfront costs, and they may underestimate how much time they have the computer on (either at idle or load).

Unfortunately this is true in most aspects of life: well built insulated buildings vs 'cheap' ones, durable consumer goods vs throwaway junk, though out planning vs quick buck suburban (or even sub-suburban) sprawl, maximum yield of food crops which exhaust the soil, etc.

People don't take account of the true long term cost of something and the consequences only get noticed once the world runs out of resources. Eventually most everything will be a matter of diminishing returns and these forums will be full of people wanting top-of-the-range graphic cards, CPUs, HDDs for next to nothing: "Where's my $50 2TB SSD?" etc.

 

[Silverforce11]

P.S. Still wondering how you like 7850OC vs. your old 5850 crossfire setup.

Heaps better, similar performance, none of the heat, noise (I had to disassemble them and use OCZ tim to lower temp/noise) and crazy power use of my OC 5850s (yes, they easily use an extra 100W or so when OC to the max with vcore). It fits in my tiny mITX setup with room to spare.

Also, I know for a fact that BF3 (with MSAA) and Shogun 2 even at 1080p hammers CF 5850s due to vram and with this its smooth as (pretty much better min fps in every game I've played so far).

And for some reason SC2 is much much smoother.

 

[Termie]

Heaps better, similar performance, none of the heat, noise (I had to disassemble them and use OCZ tim to lower temp/noise) and crazy power use of my OC 5850s (yes, they easily use an extra 100W or so when OC to the max with vcore). It fits in my tiny mITX setup with room to spare.

Also, I know for a fact that BF3 (with MSAA) and Shogun 2 even at 1080p hammers CF 5850s due to vram and with this its smooth as (pretty much better min fps in every game I've played so far).

And for some reason SC2 is much much smoother.

Awesome. And that's a ton of power in a mini ITX setup.

 

[tweakboy]

I hate to say it but i say get the 7850 . For the reasons these peeps said. I would say the 7850 is faster. Where you get the deal for 560 448 for 220 ?

go with nvidia perhaps if you play Phsyx games.... gl

 

[aaksheytalwar]

IMO the 7850 is a better buy

 

[jzmagic]

I hate to say it but i say get the 7850 . For the reasons these peeps said. I would say the 7850 is faster. Where you get the deal for 560 448 for 220 ?

go with nvidia perhaps if you play Phsyx games.... gl

The 560 448 is on NCIX USA for 220

To give a little more detail, I'm still on the fence but I'm leaning towards the 7850. I'd like to have my card delivered to me a couple days before May 15, when D3 is released. I'm really disappointed NVIDIA still hasn't announced their midrange cards yet, so I might have to just go with the 7850.

Update: Decided to order the Asus 7850. Last PC game I played was SC2 on a 8700M GT SLI, so this will be a big upgrade for me. Gonna be looking forward to D3 and GW2