eVGA 3.3 ns geforce 3 ti 200 - appears to be BS

[DamonSoftXP]

got mine in the mail and it craps put at about 500 memory, stable at no higher than around 480. back to the store you go

 

[Piano Man]

There is no BS about the 3.3ns. Its the core and the voltage.

 

[jshrieve]

you're lucky, mine has bad artifacts at 480, the best it runs clean is 470mhz.

back to the store you go.

 

[rickn]

That is pretty pathetic. 3.3ns crapping out at 480MHz? Must have some lousy voltage going to it. Wonder if a volt mod would work

 

[zeknight]

As for mine, the best it can do without artifacts is 490mhz. 500mhz comes with artifacts. Frankly, this is disappointing. :frown:

 

[whitelight]

if that 3.3ns ram was put on a ti500, it would make for a sweet card.

 

[Bozo Galora]

uh, you know changing the driving value in the bios increases voltage to the card
normally set to DA hex or 218 decimal. it increases up to FF (255)
FF should burn out your card in a short time
any brave souls?

DA
DB
DC
DD
DE
DF
E0
E1
etc. 0-9-A-F

 

[RgrPark]

Bozo heck you should tell this to the guys in the video forum. I bet they'll try it...
Even better tell the guy at Hardforums who already flashed his bios to a ti500 bios in hopes of increasing voltage

 

[Bozo Galora]

And from EVGA themselves:

(quote)

eVGA.com's E1 version of the Ti 200 card was intended as a Ti 200 with the added advantage of 3.3ns memory. We, eVGA.com, never made any representation as to what the memory speed of the card could be run at, nor did we make any modification to the card's bios. The E1 is, as we stated, the same as the S1 version in all respects except for the memory on it.

We did this in an effort to supply a card with a potential for greater performance while still realizing the lower costs of the Ti 200. This way, we reasoned, we could bring a more powerful 3D card to our customers for a reasonable price. As a matter of fact, we sold these cards at the exact same price that the standard Ti 200 sells for.

We are sorry that our efforts to do something positive for our customers was met with such misunderstanding and resentment - it was not our aim to cause any of our customers to feel cheated or tricked.

The E1 version of the card, when properly installed and overclocked, can be reasonably expected to gain real performance advantages over a standard Ti 200 card.

A fair number of customers have been satisfied with this result, but there have been some that seem to be extremely disappointed and upset that the card would not reach the 600MHz potential that its 3.3ns memory suggests. So, for everyone I'd like to clarify a few things:

1) The PCB has been said in several places to be "defective" - this is a misstatement and is not accurate at all. The PCB is the same as is used for the standard Ti 200 cards and is produced DIRECTLY from the nVidia reference design. The Ti 200 PCB was not designed to support memory operating at such high speeds (600 MHz) - and as a result acts as a limiting factor. But from our perspective, this is not an issue - the card still gets much faster than a standard Ti 200, and it costs the same amount. In any case, the PCB is NOT defective or poorly designed.

2) eVGA.com NEVER represented that the card would run at 600 MHz. We DID state that the memory had the potential to run at 600 MHz - but we did not state that the card would support it. Some people have said that this is deceptive and smacks of false advertising, but we would have to disagree. When was the last time anyone got a true 1.5Mbps connection on a T1 line? A real 56K modem connection? A real 12 PPM from a 12PPM printer? There are many, many more examples we could site. Certainly we could have been clearer, and we regret the fact that we did not make the situation more clear than we did.

3) With this product we have also been accused of "talking out of both sides of our mouths" on the issue of overclocking. So, we would like to clear that up as well. We DO NOT endorse or support overclocking - and this stance has not stopped a number of our customers from engaging in it all the same. In deference to them, this card is a much better choice than a standard Ti 200.

So, these are our reasons for releasing the E1 card in its current state, if this is something that you still find unacceptable, then regrettably the only thing that we can suggest is that you return it to your vendor.

I hope that everyone can understand this, and to those who are upset, we do appologize for not communicating our intentions as well as we should have.

 

[Doomguy]

Here are the facts
1. eVGA never marketed this card.
2. THEIR CARD WORKS AS ADVERTISED.
3. All of you guys who bought it are schmucks for not waiting for a review.

If you return this card you deserve to pay a restocking fee. Use some common sense next time.

Those are the HARD FACTS. The truth hurts.

 

[Bozo Galora]

FWIW: the Ti500 has a more expensive 8 layer pcb that helps to "fine tune" voltage to memory