Everything we know so far about homegrown terrorist Faisal Shahzad

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yllus

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None of this really means or proves anything, but as a person who is somewhat obsessive at analyzing the motives of homegrown terrorists it's interesting reading.

The private life of Faisal Shahzad

The news media has taken to digging through Faisal Shahzad's personal life, his garbage, and his fridge to understand how "an average student in college, an average employee in the workplace, an average neighbor in suburbia," became an alleged would-be mass murderer.

Here's a taste of what intrepid reporters have uncovered, and what it might mean:

What was his family life like?

Shahzad wed Colorado-born Huma Mian in Peshawar, Pakistan, six years ago, in an arranged marriage between two prominent Pakistani families. Shahzad's father, Bahar ul-Haq, is a retired high-ranking general in Pakistan's air force, and Mian's father wrote a best-selling book on Project Economics and Decision Analysis. Mian has a degree in accounting from the University of Colorado, and the couple has two young children.

What did he and his family do for fun?

Until about a year ago, it seems, their (not particularly radical) diversions included watching Hollywood hits (Up in the Air) on DVD, oil-painting, and shopping. "They really loved Kohl's and Macy's," says Shelton neighbor Brenda Thurman, who characterizes Mian as a bit of a clotheshorse. Shahzad liked jogging at night in all black attire.

What can we learn from their social networking?

On Orkut — a global online community with a big presence in India and Brazil — Mian lists "fashion, shoes, bags, SHOPPING!!" as her interests, and "Everybody Loves Raymond" and "Friends" as her favorite TV shows. She speaks four languages: English, French, Pashto, and Urdu, and says she's apolitical.

A photo she posted of her husband ("he's my everything") has led observers to conclude that he over-indulged in hair gel and kept his narrow beard "meticulously neat." His online résumé, three-pages long, is set in the ubiquitous font Georgia.

And his actual handwriting?

The New York Daily News asked a graphologist to analyze Shahzad's signature (see sample and analysis here). The expert sees evidence of anger (checkmark-like "ticks"), a focus on religious matters (letter forms that reach lofty heights), and a bizarre need to stand out (a "curlicue" in lieu of an i-dot).

Was Shahzad in financial trouble?

High-level U.S. officials and family friends in Pakistan say yes. Reportedly, Shahzad had quit his financial-analyst job and abandoned his in-foreclosure home.

Citing a $65,000 home equity loan that Wachovia granted Shahzad in early 2009, University of New Haven psychologist James Monahan speculates that Shahzad was living above his means. (Why, wonders The Washington Post's Moe Lane, would Wachovia even approve the loan if that were true?)

Was he religious?

Not until the past couple of years, according to friends. His wedding featured co-ed dancing, and he apparently didn't pray at at work. "The Faisal with the beard" is not "the old Faisal," says Faiz Ahmad, a family friend in Pakistan. "He was like you, like me, handsome, liberal and an active person."

What was in his fridge?

According to one of the prosaic captions in the New York Post's exhaustive slideshow of the Shahzad's kitchen, "Eggs and flat bread dominate the refrigerator." Also noted: Fat-free milk, bread, yogurt, Gatorade, Entenmann's poundcake, and a Starbucks Frappuccino bottle. Pantene conditioner was a bathroom favorite.
 

her209

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I thought you were going to say:
yllus said:
Everything we know so far about homegrown terrorist Faisal Shahzad
...we learned even after he was "Mirandized" and without the use of torture techniques.
 

Jaskalas

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1: "Homegrown" is how we refer to a Pakistani that immigrated here? Correct me if I've got this info wrong.

2: In his desperation he turned to Islam.
 

Rainsford

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1: "Homegrown" is how we refer to a Pakistani that immigrated here? Correct me if I've got this info wrong.

2: In his desperation he turned to Islam.

And the Columbine shooters were motivated by video games...

And I'm not just nitpicking either. It's not harmless to overly simplify motivations for things like this, since while it might be emotionally satisfying to pin the blame on something simple and direct, it doesn't get us much closer to actually understanding their motivation. Given the millions of people who follow Islam and DON'T try to commit terrorism, it seems pretty unlikely that it's actually a significant motivating factor.
 

xj0hnx

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Given the millions of people who follow Islam and DON'T try to commit terrorism, it seems pretty unlikely that it's actually a significant motivating factor.

So the trend of the vast majority of terrorist being Islamic is what? Just a coincidence? What percentage of the religion of peace doesn't condemn terrorist attacks?
 

Infohawk

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So the trend of the vast majority of terrorist being Islamic is what? Just a coincidence? What percentage of the religion of peace doesn't condemn terrorist attacks?

Isn't it amazing how people will stick there heads in the sand about this?

Maybe left-wingers can understand this comparison: Let's imagine you're a native American community in the 17th Century. These white guys are taking your land and killing your people. Some members in the community are worried about the white guys and want to exclude / fight all of them from their land. But oddly others insist on saying not all white guys are bad. What's gonna happen if the Indians become tolerant?

We all know there are some nonviolent Muslims. Who cares?! The point is that the vast majority of foreign terrorists are Muslims.
 

nick1985

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He was driven to terrorism due to the housing crisis. It had nothing to do with Islamic extremism. Everyone knows this.
 

woolfe9999

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And the Columbine shooters were motivated by video games...

And I'm not just nitpicking either. It's not harmless to overly simplify motivations for things like this, since while it might be emotionally satisfying to pin the blame on something simple and direct, it doesn't get us much closer to actually understanding their motivation. Given the millions of people who follow Islam and DON'T try to commit terrorism, it seems pretty unlikely that it's actually a significant motivating factor.

I'm not sure what you mean by the word "significant." That word requires some clearer defining. I think it's pretty clear that in this case it was a necessary, if obviously insufficient, motivation.

- wolf
 
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