Ever wonder what a nuke would do to your city?

[nageov3t]

100 kilotons or under and I'd survive the thermal/pressure from a nuke falling on NYC.

fallout, I'd assume would depend on luck and the winds.

 

[alkemyst]

Didn't realize it was a nuke in a briefcase. I thought maybe they were just starting at some hefty bombs and not nuke.

The material for nukes is obviously a bit hard to get a hold of.

I don't think it's as hard to get a hold of as the cost being prohibitive to waste on just blowing up random targets.

 

[Modelworks]

I would be dead. I'm near several major Marine bases and a nuclear power plant.

 

[brblx]

Typical ATOT arrogance. You don't actually need high quality fissable material. Pack it with some radioactive crud and a few pounds of C4. Dirty bomb. Terror and panic achieved.

i don't think these things work...as you seem to think they work.

you would have a normal C4 explosion with some radioactive contamination. not a nuclear bomb.

 

[Jeff7]

i don't think these things work...as you seem to think they work.

you would have a normal C4 explosion with some radioactive contamination. not a nuclear bomb.

...yes, exactly. That would be precisely what Bateluer described: a dirty bomb, not a nuclear bomb.

 

[Bateluer]

i don't think these things work...as you seem to think they work.

you would have a normal C4 explosion with some radioactive contamination. not a nuclear bomb.

...yes, exactly. That would be precisely what Bateluer described: a dirty bomb, not a nuclear bomb.

Yep, a dirty bomb that highly contaminates a small, but highly, public area, forcing an evacuation, high profile news reporting 24/7, and a massive spike in panicky people. Relatively cheap to make a number of them too. Detonate one in the NYC subway. Do you follow me? You don't need a Tsar Bomba to create fear, panic, and detrimentally effect a nation.

 

[Lithium381]

Kind of a cool map

yeah, for a terrorist

 

[Insomniator]

I'm surprised how small the blast and everything else is really. I thought modern nukes could reallllly level states and such.

I thought in the 50's we had enough nukes to destroy the planet? They just meant radiation and no more atmosphere?

 

[Bignate603]

Typical ATOT arrogance. You don't actually need high quality fissable material. Pack it with some radioactive crud and a few pounds of C4. Dirty bomb. Terror and panic achieved.

How does that contradict anything that I said? We were talking about a briefcase nuke, not a dirty bomb. Trident wanted to know why we hadn't seen them (the briefcase nukes) used, and I answered that they were not easy to construct. You then say I'm arrogant because another form of attack is possible in a small package. From your line of reasoning what I said was incorrect because somebody could do an attack with anthrax.

 

[Bateluer]

I'm surprised how small the blast and everything else is really. I thought modern nukes could reallllly level states and such.

I thought in the 50's we had enough nukes to destroy the planet? They just meant radiation and no more atmosphere?

Move the slider to the right a few more paces.

How does that contradict anything that I said? We were talking about a briefcase nuke, not a dirty bomb. Trident wanted to know why we hadn't seen them (the briefcase nukes) used, and I answered that they were not easy to construct. You then say I'm arrogant because another form of attack is possible in a small package. From your line of reasoning what I said was incorrect because somebody could do an attack with anthrax.

And you said it with the condescending, holier-than-thou attitude that's becoming more and more common in ATOT.

Your original quote:

You do realize that it's actually quite difficult to get enough high quality fissionable material to build one of these things, right? The basics are easy enough for most people to understand quickly, but everything needed to produce a workable bomb is much harder than you apparently understand.

Borderline personal attack and insult.

 

[gevorg]

Try "Tsar Bomba" here:

http://www.carloslabs.com/projects/200712B/GroundZero.html

 

[Balt]

If they hit the NAS with anything substantial, I'm cooked.

 

[Insomniator]

Move the slider to the right a few more paces.

The soviets actually detonated one of those?!

 

[Bateluer]

The soviets actually detonated one of those?!

Yes, you can pull up the test site on Google Maps.

 

[Jeff7]

And you said it with the condescending, holier-than-thou attitude that's becoming more and more common in ATOT.

Your original quote:

Originally Posted by Bignate603
You do realize that it's actually quite difficult to get enough high quality fissionable material to build one of these things, right? The basics are easy enough for most people to understand quickly, but everything needed to produce a workable bomb is much harder than you apparently understand.

Borderline personal attack and insult.

Well, to his credit, it was directed at Trident....

 

[Bignate603]

And you said it with the condescending, holier-than-thou attitude that's becoming more and more common in ATOT.

Your original quote:



Borderline personal attack and insult.

Speaking about a holier-than-thou attitude...

If Trident was upset about it I'm sure he'd have responded to it or reported it. Instead, he kept the conversation going while you got hung up on it. I think you're seeing an insult where none was intended by the person saying it or perceived by the person it was being said to.

 

[OutHouse]

you guys do know that if a nuke war ever got started especially during the cold war every major city and military installation in the US would be hit by a dozen or more H bombs. nobody or anything in our country would be alive.

 

[JulesMaximus]

I'm going to go out on a limb here and say that it would do a lot of damage.

 

[OutHouse]

lol at the explosive experts in here who know how to make and evaluate the damage of a suitcase bomb. hahahahhahahah

 

[JackBurton]

Do they have estimates for a hydrogen bomb?

 

[Bignate603]

The soviets actually detonated one of those?!

Yes, they detonated the 50 megaton version. However, that was detuned to reduce fallout. At full power it would have been 100 megatons. There's diminishing returns on really big bombs though, doubling the explosive power doesn't double the area it covers. The area does increase but much of that extra power doesn't really do much, it just hits the area that you've already flattened a little harder. After something is destroyed there's not much point in hitting it harder. They later moved to more, smaller yield bombs that would be spread out over larger areas. This could let them destroy larger areas than they could with a single large bomb.

 

[UberNeuman]

I don't have to - I live in Detroit...