Ever wonder how much White House staffers make?

[her209]

http://www.whitehouse.gov/blog...hite-House-Staff-2009/

[*] The highest paid person (other than the President and VP) is David Marcozzi at $192,943.
[*] David Axelrod, Rahm Emanuel, and Robert Gibbs earn $172,200 each.
[*] The lowest paid employee is Patrick Whitty at $36,000.
[*] Two employees, Patricia McGinnis and Michael Warren, receive no pay.

 

[yllus]

Not so much, but income for life thereafter is assured as everyone wants to have someone who worked in the White House on their board of directors.

 

[shiner]

How much is Kumar making?

 

[Specop 007]

And when we factor in the perks and benefits then how much is it? I know I would like to have a big arsed Air Force jet shuttle me non stop from Washington to wherever I wanted to go.....

 

[QuantumPion]

That is just their on-the-record public salaries. The amount they actually make is an order of magnitude more, from kickbacks and such. For example, Rahm Emanuel has been living in a multi-million dollar house rent and tax free for the past 5 years (link)

 

[Phokus]

Originally posted by: shiner
How much is Kumar making?

I don't see Kal Penn listed there, maybe he's working for free?

 

[JEDIYoda]

Originally posted by: yllus
Not so much, but income for life thereafter is assured as everyone wants to have someone who worked in the White House on their board of directors.

what does that have to do with anything...especially this topic??

 

[her209]

Originally posted by: Phokus

Originally posted by: shiner
How much is Kumar making?

I don't see Kal Penn listed there, maybe he's working for free?

His real name is Kalpen Modi according to IMDB.com but I don't see that name listed on there either.

 

[JEDIYoda]

Originally posted by: QuantumPion
That is just their on-the-record public salaries. The amount they actually make is an order of magnitude more, from kickbacks and such. For example, Rahm Emanuel has been living in a multi-million dollar house rent and tax free for the past 5 years (link)

mis-represent that facts much...huh???

Lets look at that multi- million dollar home......

White House chief of staff Rahm Emanuel's Washington lodging arrangements, a rent-free basement room in a Capitol Hill home owned by Rep. Rosa DeLauro (D-Conn) and her pollster husband

Jan Baran, a Washington ethics lawyer who advises mostly Republicans, said Emanuel's use of the room from DeLauro and Greenberg does not violate House ethics rules since members clearly are allowed to give each other gifts of lodging.

Greenberg's co-ownership of the property doesn't affect DeLauro's ability to offer hospitality subject to House rules permitting the practice, Baran said. "It's indisputably her home," Baran said.

 

[yllus]

Originally posted by: JEDIYoda

Originally posted by: yllus
Not so much, but income for life thereafter is assured as everyone wants to have someone who worked in the White House on their board of directors.

what does that have to do with anything...especially this topic??

Well, let's take a look at the topic:

Topic Title: Ever wonder how much White House staffers make?

Now, is the salary on record the only thing people in the White House will receive as renumeration as a result of working there, or are they going to be the beneficiaries of more than that going forward as a result of their current work station?

 

[tk149]

Originally posted by: JEDIYoda

Originally posted by: QuantumPion
That is just their on-the-record public salaries. The amount they actually make is an order of magnitude more, from kickbacks and such. For example, Rahm Emanuel has been living in a multi-million dollar house rent and tax free for the past 5 years (link)

mis-represent that facts much...huh???

Lets look at that multi- million dollar home......

White House chief of staff Rahm Emanuel's Washington lodging arrangements, a rent-free basement room in a Capitol Hill home owned by Rep. Rosa DeLauro (D-Conn) and her pollster husband

Jan Baran, a Washington ethics lawyer who advises mostly Republicans, said Emanuel's use of the room from DeLauro and Greenberg does not violate House ethics rules since members clearly are allowed to give each other gifts of lodging.

Greenberg's co-ownership of the property doesn't affect DeLauro's ability to offer hospitality subject to House rules permitting the practice, Baran said. "It's indisputably her home," Baran said.

Just to be fair, you should have posted both sides of the story. I have a feeling that the basement of that multi-million dollar home is a lot nicer than my entire house.

A further complexity involves DeLauro's husband, Stan Greenberg, an old friend of Emanuel's whose firm had done polling work for an Emanuel campaign committee and for the Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee, which Emanuel headed in 2005 and 2006.

Tax experts are divided about whether Emanuel would have an IRS liability for the free room. The issue has aroused unusual online interest among tax experts, perhaps because arcane points of tax law rarely intersect with mainstream political events, said Paul Caron, an associate dean at the University of Cincinnati Law School and author of the TaxProf blog.

Caron said Greenberg's polling work for Emanuel and the DCCC muddies the argument that the room is a gift and thus either tax exempt or subject only to limited taxation.

"The courts have been very clear. It's very hard to claim something is a gift when you have a business context," said Caron.

Joseph Dodge, a professor at Florida State University College of Law, argued that the room is not subject to tax either as a gift or as income.

It's not a gift because it doesn't effectively cost DeLauro and Greenberg anything, Dodge said.

Nor would it be taxable as income to Emanuel because of the couple's motive in making the room available, "which would be friendship or generosity," Dodge said.

 

[Craig234]

Originally posted by: yllus
Not so much, but income for life thereafter is assured as everyone wants to have someone who worked in the White House on their board of directors.

Only to those willing to serve their interests, which are often at odds with the public interest. People are not given big private money much for just 'wanting to serve the public'

This is a reason the public interest is so often so screwed - officials are given a choice, sell out the public and get big bucks, or don't and don't..

That's a reason why fair pay for public servant can often be some of the best moneey we can spend, to allow them the practical freedom to serve the public interest.

 

[Craig234]

Originally posted by: QuantumPion
That is just their on-the-record public salaries. The amount they actually make is an order of magnitude more, from kickbacks and such. For example, Rahm Emanuel has been living in a multi-million dollar house rent and tax free for the past 5 years (link)

Wht a dishonest summary of his situation - he has a basement room in the house, not the house to himself. And that's far from the norm. For most of them, all they get is base pay..

Kicckbacks aren't common, they're illegal.

The problam isn't what they make while serving - it's the temptations in the private sector to work for private interests and get the government to serve them over the public.

 

[QuantumPion]

Originally posted by: Craig234

Originally posted by: QuantumPion
That is just their on-the-record public salaries. The amount they actually make is an order of magnitude more, from kickbacks and such. For example, Rahm Emanuel has been living in a multi-million dollar house rent and tax free for the past 5 years (link)

Wht a dishonest summary of his situation - he has a basement room in the house, not the house to himself. And that's far from the norm. For most of them, all they get is base pay..

First of all, they call it a basement, when in fact it is effectively the first floor of a mansion. The use of the word basement is highly misleading.

Second of all, the people whom rented the house out don't live in the house themselves, so effectively Rahm has the whole place to himself.

Originally posted by: Craig234
Kicckbacks aren't common, they're illegal.

Really. You've got to be kidding me. Seriously. That has got to be the most ridiculous thing I've read in P&N in the last year. And I actually read Moonbeam's posts, so that is really saying a lot.



P.S. - Here is the so-called apartment basement. You can use street-view to see what Rahm has been getting free of charge for 5 years. Not a kickback though! No no, that would be illegal!

 

[Corn]

Originally posted by: her209
http://www.whitehouse.gov/blog...hite-House-Staff-2009/

[*] The highest paid person (other than the President and VP) is David Marcozzi at $192,943.
[*] David Axelrod, Rahm Emanuel, and Robert Gibbs earn $172,200 each.
[*] The lowest paid employee is Patrick Whitty at $36,000.
[*] Two employees, Patricia McGinnis and Michael Warren, receive no pay.

Well, on the bright side, at least 2 people are deserving of their income in the Obama administration.

 

[soundforbjt]

Originally posted by: her209

Originally posted by: Phokus

Originally posted by: shiner
How much is Kumar making?

I don't see Kal Penn listed there, maybe he's working for free?

His real name is Kalpen Modi according to IMDB.com but I don't see that name listed on there either.

I should have asked him. I just met him at a small birthday party last weekend for a friend. It was at a friend of Kal's house in Nashville. He stopped in on his way to DC from LA. He was driving to DC.

 

[Craig234]

Originally posted by: QuantumPion

Originally posted by: Craig234

Originally posted by: QuantumPion
That is just their on-the-record public salaries. The amount they actually make is an order of magnitude more, from kickbacks and such. For example, Rahm Emanuel has been living in a multi-million dollar house rent and tax free for the past 5 years (link)

Wht a dishonest summary of his situation - he has a basement room in the house, not the house to himself. And that's far from the norm. For most of them, all they get is base pay..

First of all, they call it a basement, when in fact it is effectively the first floor of a mansion. The use of the word basement is highly misleading.

Second of all, the people whom rented the house out don't live in the house themselves, so effectively Rahm has the whole place to himself.

Originally posted by: Craig234
Kicckbacks aren't common, they're illegal.

Really. You've got to be kidding me. Seriously. That has got to be the most ridiculous thing I've read in P&N in the last year. And I actually read Moonbeam's posts, so that is really saying a lot.



P.S. - Here is the so-called apartment basement. You can use street-view to see what Rahm has been getting free of charge for 5 years. Not a kickback though! No no, that would be illegal!

In this case, I think the truth is somewhere in the middle - both the 'free mansion' and the 'just in a room in a basement' are not the whole story.

"Kickback", though, is hyperbole IMO. Is he living in a mansion paid for by Boeing while he worked to get Boeing contracts? Hardly.

Politics is filled with 'back-scratching' favors and there's nothing wrong some of that, if the publi cinterest isn't compromised. If a stffer or politician needs to hire some private pollin out of campaign funds, and can choose from several firms, and is friends with one firm from previous activity, how is the public interest betrayed if he has preferences for his friends? Businesses have such alliances all the time, small and large alike.

There is a question about his owing taxes, between whether this free rent is a personal gift for a friend, or is a taxable business reward since they've done business. I'd like to see him err on the conservative side and pay taxes and not have 'appearance of impropriety', if there's a real question there.

But as almost always with the right, overall this seems to be a very exaggerated issue (seems just yesterday we were reading someone parroting fox in trying to make an issue of one non-scientist who works at the EPA and is anti-global warming prevention who as a private hobby, not at the request of the EPA, put out a paper with his opinion, saying the EPA had 'covered up the report', hiding the truth about global warming, while they themselves are the actual liars on the issue.)

 

[her209]

Originally posted by: soundforbjt
I should have asked him. I just met him at a small birthday party last weekend for a friend. It was at a friend of Kal's house in Nashville. He stopped in on his way to DC from LA. He was driving to DC.

Actor Kal Penn starts work as White House liaison

 

[trooper11]

Originally posted by: Craig234


The problam isn't what they make while serving - it's the temptations in the private sector to work for private interests and get the government to serve them over the public.

Its a give and take mentality in Washington. Our government is run in the same way the private sector runs and can be equally corrupted by greed and power. Not only do government officials do things to get favor in the private sector, but the private sector willd o things to gain favor with governemtn officials, so this game works both ways.

 

[Wreckem]

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[Fingolfin269]

Originally posted by: soundforbjt

Originally posted by: her209

Originally posted by: Phokus

Originally posted by: shiner
How much is Kumar making?

I don't see Kal Penn listed there, maybe he's working for free?

His real name is Kalpen Modi according to IMDB.com but I don't see that name listed on there either.

I should have asked him. I just met him at a small birthday party last weekend for a friend. It was at a friend of Kal's house in Nashville. He stopped in on his way to DC from LA. He was driving to DC.

We talking Belle Meade or something slightly less affluent?

 

[benzylic]

Jason Nerad- gift analysis

What does he do? I hope its not the obvious.

 

[alchemize]

Just think how efficiently they can run healthcare. Can't wait for my next trip to the DMV...

 

[sciwizam]

Originally posted by: mxrider
Jason Nerad- gift analysis

What does he do? I hope its not the obvious.

If it is the obvious, I wonder how he still has a job considering gifts given to Gordon Brown.