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Ever wish you were in your 20's during the 1960/70's?

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When it's the norm you don't see anything special about it. When you look back you usually only remember the good things.
 
I wonder how bad it would have to be in 20 years for someone to talk about how good the turn of the century was?
 
Originally posted by: Red Dawn
I wonder how bad it would have to be in 20 years for someone to talk about how good the turn of the century was?
Maybe (just maybe) . . . we'll see

(and we could have one of Bush's daughters as Prez by then . . . it'll be BAD) 😛

:roll:

The 60s and 70s were more experimentive . . . seems like the 'newness' of experimenting is gone . . . . 😛
(still fun, though)
 
oooo the pre-gas shock big block V8's.... I'd have loved to have been there but I would have been a section 8 (or is 9 the crazy one?) for sure.... prolly messed up for life
 
Remember, though, that abortion was illegal until 1973 in the U.S, and having a child out of wedlock in those days was a MUCH bigger deal than it is now, hippie or not. Birth control pills were around, but they were extremely crude compared to now and a lot of women couldn't take them. This left you with condoms, which nobody used as anything but a last resort, and diaphragms, which were/are a huge PITA to use. There were also plenty of STDs, just not AIDS. So sex wasn't always the guilt-free, worry-free experience you'd think. Remember also that the fitness movement didn't start until the mid 70's and Americans were much less concerned with body image than today - so a lot of that free sex was rather flabby and hairy sex.

We think of the hippies as the ones doing the fun stuff in the 60s. But people tend to forget how radical hippies really were when compared to mainstream 60s American culture. We see hippies now as being sort of harmless stoned bumpkins whose only offenses to humanity are lousy food, boring music and silly political views. We tolerate counterculture, and often embrace it.

But before the Sixties, there WAS no significant counterculture. Everything the hippies stood for was a direct, unprecedented threat to conventional America. As much of a cliche as it is now, having long hair in 1966 was a very bold political statement guaranteed to get you harassed - or worse - just about everywhere you went. That first wave of hippies were fighters - believe it or not, the Grateful Dead were originally gun nuts until the pacifists hounded them into downplaying it from their image. The folksinging, self-obsessed vegitarian "whining liberals" didn't start showing up until much later - when it was fashionable and safe. The point is that being young in the 60's wasn't just one long orgy of free love and cheap gas.
 
Originally posted by: myusername
Forgive me father, for I hath spammed ATOT with poetry...



Miniver Cheevy, child of scorn,
Grew lean while he assailed the seasons;
He wept that he was ever born,
And he had reasons.

Miniver loved the days of old
When swords were bright and steeds were prancing;
The vision of a warrior bold
Would set him dancing.

Miniver sighed for what was not,
And dreamed, and rested from his labors;
He dreamed of Thebes and Camelot,
And Priam's neighbors.

Miniver mourned the ripe renown
That made so many a name so fragrant;
He mourned Romance, now on the town,
And Art, a vagrant.

Miniver loved the Medici,
Albeit he had never seen one;
He would have sinned incessantly
Could he have been one.

Miniver cursed the commonplace
And eyed a khaki suit with loathing;
He missed the medieval grace
Of iron clothing.

Miniver scorned the gold he sought,
But sore annoyed was he without it;
Miniver thought, and thought, and thought,
And thought about it.

Miniver Cheevy, born too late,
Scratched his head and kept on thinking;
Miniver coughed, and called it fate,
And kept on drinking.

-E.A.Robinson
That poem sucked. I should mention that I hate poetry in all forms. And I'm an idiot. Yes, I wish I could have more sex with more women. What kind of question is that?
 
Originally posted by: phantom309
But before the Sixties, there WAS no significant counterculture. Everything the hippies stood for was a direct, unprecedented threat to conventional America. As much of a cliche as it is now, having long hair in 1966 was a very bold political statement guaranteed to get you harassed - or worse - just about everywhere you went. That first wave of hippies were fighters - believe it or not, the Grateful Dead were originally gun nuts until the pacifists hounded them into downplaying it from their image. The folksinging, self-obsessed vegitarian "whining liberals" didn't start showing up until much later - when it was fashionable and safe. The point is that being young in the 60's wasn't just one long orgy of free love and cheap gas.
I guess you never heard of the Beat Generation and Jack Keroack
 
Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Originally posted by: phantom309
But before the Sixties, there WAS no significant counterculture. Everything the hippies stood for was a direct, unprecedented threat to conventional America. As much of a cliche as it is now, having long hair in 1966 was a very bold political statement guaranteed to get you harassed - or worse - just about everywhere you went. That first wave of hippies were fighters - believe it or not, the Grateful Dead were originally gun nuts until the pacifists hounded them into downplaying it from their image. The folksinging, self-obsessed vegitarian "whining liberals" didn't start showing up until much later - when it was fashionable and safe. The point is that being young in the 60's wasn't just one long orgy of free love and cheap gas.
I guess you never heard of the Beat Generation and Jack Keroack

I said no SIGNIFICANT counterculture. The Beat Generation was a tiny movement that existed mostly on paper.
 
Originally posted by: phantom309
Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Originally posted by: phantom309
But before the Sixties, there WAS no significant counterculture. Everything the hippies stood for was a direct, unprecedented threat to conventional America. As much of a cliche as it is now, having long hair in 1966 was a very bold political statement guaranteed to get you harassed - or worse - just about everywhere you went. That first wave of hippies were fighters - believe it or not, the Grateful Dead were originally gun nuts until the pacifists hounded them into downplaying it from their image. The folksinging, self-obsessed vegitarian "whining liberals" didn't start showing up until much later - when it was fashionable and safe. The point is that being young in the 60's wasn't just one long orgy of free love and cheap gas.
I guess you never heard of the Beat Generation and Jack Keroack

I said no SIGNIFICANT counterculture. The Beat Generation was a tiny movement that existed mostly on paper.
It was fairly significant as it actually gave birth the the so called "Hippie" counter culture. There was even a TV show that deal with it (Dobie Gillis) It also made a significant mark on the Music scene.
 
Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Originally posted by: PingSpike
Maybe a little. Women had nice hairstyles back then...and in my younger years I would haved liked to get a little more play. But I presume things probably aren't as different as people make them out to be...I think that before the 60s things were a lot different so when the whole 'free love' thing finally happened it made a big social impact.
Coming from the totally repressed era of the 50's I'm sure the 60's were a breath of fresh air!

Thats what I'm saying...the 60s have a reputation for being a huge screw-fest...but decades after that things probably haven't really changed much. The only reason the 60s really have that huge of a rep is probably because the decade before it, the 50s was still so repressed.

People just don't notice it anymore, because its the norm.
 
Originally posted by: PingSpike
Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Originally posted by: PingSpike
Maybe a little. Women had nice hairstyles back then...and in my younger years I would haved liked to get a little more play. But I presume things probably aren't as different as people make them out to be...I think that before the 60s things were a lot different so when the whole 'free love' thing finally happened it made a big social impact.
Coming from the totally repressed era of the 50's I'm sure the 60's were a breath of fresh air!

Thats what I'm saying...the 60s have a reputation for being a huge screw-fest...but decades after that things probably haven't really changed much. The only reason the 60s really have that huge of a rep is probably because the decade before it, the 50s was still so repressed.

People just don't notice it anymore, because its the norm.



Blame it on the European invasion....Ladies and gentlemen....THE BEATTLES!!


Sysadmin
 
Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Originally posted by: phantom309
Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Originally posted by: phantom309
But before the Sixties, there WAS no significant counterculture. Everything the hippies stood for was a direct, unprecedented threat to conventional America. As much of a cliche as it is now, having long hair in 1966 was a very bold political statement guaranteed to get you harassed - or worse - just about everywhere you went. That first wave of hippies were fighters - believe it or not, the Grateful Dead were originally gun nuts until the pacifists hounded them into downplaying it from their image. The folksinging, self-obsessed vegitarian "whining liberals" didn't start showing up until much later - when it was fashionable and safe. The point is that being young in the 60's wasn't just one long orgy of free love and cheap gas.
I guess you never heard of the Beat Generation and Jack Keroack

I said no SIGNIFICANT counterculture. The Beat Generation was a tiny movement that existed mostly on paper.
It was fairly significant as it actually gave birth the the so called "Hippie" counter culture. There was even a TV show that deal with it (Dobie Gillis) It also made a significant mark on the Music scene.
They were significant to the hippies, true, but to mainstream culture the Beats were really more a curiosity than anything else - sort of like the Goths or Wiccans are now. They didn't have the numbers or the focused political agenda to really shake the country up.
 
Old guy fight, old guy fight!!!

All I can say is if you claim you can remember the 60's, you weren't really there! 😉

I remember VERY little of it, but I do remember I got laid a lot!
 
GeekBabe and Phantom309 have it pretty much right. I came of age in the early 70's. The sixties were not all sunshine and light. Vietnam was probably THE most destructive thing to happen to the fabric of American society since the Civil War. The nightmare of Richard Nixon and Sprio Agnew? The draft? A pointless, seemingly endless war? Rampant inflation? (I settled down in the late seventies and bought my first home-mortgage rates were over 15% then).
 
The 70's, that's the decade I have to skip when playing Trival Pursuit, can't remember it.
OK, I do remember the Doors.
 
Originally posted by: apoppin
Originally posted by: Deeko
Not at all.

. . . the current decade is worlds better than back then.
How do you know?

Do you think that because I wasn't alive back then, that I haven't spoken to anyone that lived back then? Friends? Parents? Look at technology alone...look at the AWFUL AWFUL music...I would rather stab myself in the eye with a rusty, aids-infested icepick than live then.
 
Originally posted by: Deeko
Originally posted by: apoppin
Originally posted by: Deeko
Not at all.

. . . the current decade is worlds better than back then.
How do you know?

Do you think that because I wasn't alive back then, that I haven't spoken to anyone that lived back then? Friends? Parents? Look at technology alone...look at the AWFUL AWFUL music...I would rather stab myself in the eye with a rusty, aids-infested icepick than live then.

Ho-lee-crap. I can't believe you called it "AFWUL AWFUL music!" :Q

The Beatles? Rolling Stones? Motown? :Q OMG, where do you think all that R.Kelly crap you like to listen to these days comes from? It comes from the Temptations, The Miracles, etc.

Granted, I don't care much for the folksy-stuff from the 60's, but it was all relevant. 🙂

Yeah, some women (and men) are slutty nowadays too. The diff back then was that when you woke up you didn't have to check your wallet to see if your identity had been stolen.
 
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