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Ever had a conversation with someone...

Just ten minutes aho I was telling my brother (over msn) about the upgrade I'm doing (from p3 933 Mhz processor to a AMD 1.6 sempron) and he says something like : "That's so stupid, your computer is fine."

I'm sitting here arguing with him about how my computer is not fine. (Onboard graphics/sound/128 ram/033 mhz processor/slow hard drives) and he repeatedly tells me "it was fine when you got it."

Then the next idiotic thing he says : "all computers slow down, they get get infected with viruses and spyware."

So I told him, in that case, either run some scans or, worst case, reformat.

"Viruses permanently infect the CPU and RAM, you can't stop that."

At this point I'm ready to flip, yet calmly explaining to him that the CPU and RAM aren't affected by Virsus and spyware, so what does he say?

"I'm not having this conversation with you." then blocks me from MSN...Wow.
 
Your brother is a genuine asshat. He blocked his own flesh and blood because of a debate about computers. He's also quite the mature fellow.
 
Never argue with an idiot. They drag you down to their level and beat you with experience. Or something like that.

Next time, just punch yourself in the face a couple times instead of arguing with him. It'll be more productive.

Though you now have ammunition to ridicule him with at family get-togethers.
 
He's one of those people who are "always right" and if proven wrong, they will find some excuse for it, or say : "You just don't get it."

I seriously hate people like that. 🙁 You can't always be right about everything.
 
actually, i've seen a virus kill ram to the point of no longer functioning. they can also force themselves into the cache on the proc. those are so rare of cases its safe to say that a virus won't affect your memory or cpu or motherboard or video card or sound card or anyother hardware inside your case
 
Originally posted by: LoKe
He's one of those people who are "always right" and if proven wrong, they will find some excuse for it, or say : "You just don't get it."

I seriously hate people like that. 🙁 You can't always be right about everything.

Yeah, I have a friend like that. What I find funny is even after proving them wrong many times they still don't concede to it.

Some people are just messed up in the head I guess.
 
Originally posted by: scorpmatt
actually, i've seen a virus kill ram to the point of no longer functioning. they can also force themselves into the cache on the proc. those are so rare of cases its safe to say that a virus won't affect your memory or cpu or motherboard or video card or sound card or anyother hardware inside your case

I could see it maybe getting into the RAM, but the CPU cache? How would that happen? That must be one damn good virus.
 
Originally posted by: aplefka
Originally posted by: scorpmatt
actually, i've seen a virus kill ram to the point of no longer functioning. they can also force themselves into the cache on the proc. those are so rare of cases its safe to say that a virus won't affect your memory or cpu or motherboard or video card or sound card or anyother hardware inside your case

I could see it maybe getting into the RAM, but the CPU cache? How would that happen? That must be one damn good virus.

no kidding, i wouldn't want to guess how long the writer(s) would be writing that code. ugh, no thanks
 
Originally posted by: scorpmatt
Originally posted by: aplefka
Originally posted by: scorpmatt
actually, i've seen a virus kill ram to the point of no longer functioning. they can also force themselves into the cache on the proc. those are so rare of cases its safe to say that a virus won't affect your memory or cpu or motherboard or video card or sound card or anyother hardware inside your case

I could see it maybe getting into the RAM, but the CPU cache? How would that happen? That must be one damn good virus.

no kidding, i wouldn't want to guess how long the writer(s) would be writing that code. ugh, no thanks

Must've been for someone trying to fvck up some corporate computers or something.
 
Originally posted by: scorpmatt
actually, i've seen a virus kill ram to the point of no longer functioning. they can also force themselves into the cache on the proc. those are so rare of cases its safe to say that a virus won't affect your memory or cpu or motherboard or video card or sound card or anyother hardware inside your case


Ugh.

No they can't. It's volatile memory, not non-volatile memory like Flash memory. You cannot permanently infect a CPU's cache or RAM. A motherboard's BIOS, yes, since it's non-volatile and will store the info when the power is shut off, but everything else starts with a clean slate when the power is cycled.

I can't believe that some people don't know the basics of computers.
 
Originally posted by: 91TTZ
Originally posted by: scorpmatt
actually, i've seen a virus kill ram to the point of no longer functioning. they can also force themselves into the cache on the proc. those are so rare of cases its safe to say that a virus won't affect your memory or cpu or motherboard or video card or sound card or anyother hardware inside your case


Ugh.

No they can't. It's volatile memory, not non-volatile memory like Flash memory. You cannot permanently infect a CPU's cache or RAM. A motherboard's BIOS, yes, since it's non-volatile and will store the info when the power is shut off, but everything else starts with a clean slate when the power is cycled.

I can't believe that some people don't know the basics of computers.

Agreed.
At any rate, all viruses get into the RAM at some point, since the offending file has to be loaded into the memory to operate. But the file itself has to reside somewhere in the Hard Drive; I can't fathom a virus designed to affect RAM, as RAM data gets wiped every time power is taken away.

 
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