Even with the AMT, Trump paid too little

desura

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Ideally, I'd like to see any income over say $2 million be taxed at a 70% rate.

Trump earning $153 million or so in 2005 and paying $38 million in taxes is only 24%.
 

Jhhnn

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Ideally, I'd like to see any income over say $2 million be taxed at a 70% rate.

Trump earning $153 million or so in 2005 and paying $38 million in taxes is only 24%.

Why do you profess belief in unverifiable bullshit?
 
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You had your chance
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Ideally, I'd like to see any income over say $2 million be taxed at a 70% rate.

Trump earning $153 million or so in 2005 and paying $38 million in taxes is only 24%.

“I consider it my patriotic duty to keep Elvis up in the 90 percent tax bracket.” - Tom Parker, Elvis Presley's manager.

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Jhhnn

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I guess that makes everyone smarter than Trump?

Not Hillary. She paid ~30%, iirc, & gave another 10% to charity.

What evidence do we have that the whole thing isn't pure fakery from TrumpCo based on simple forgery & media manipulation? Is there any reason to trust anything they say?
 

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Not Hillary. She paid ~30%, iirc, & gave another 10% to charity.

What evidence do we have that the whole thing isn't pure fakery from TrumpCo based on simple forgery & media manipulation? Is there any reason to trust anything they say?
Or the left media.

Really? You're not an idiot. Neither side's "media" is factual. The day you trust any of the main stream, alone, you should hang it up.
 

desura

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Like, all that Trump having this stupid amount of money accomplishes is concentrating more wealth than anyone knows what to do with in NYC, raising real estate values and rents to astronomical levels.

Literally, higher marginal tax rates will invariably result in a more equal society. Bernie Sanders should be campaigning for dramatically higher taxes on the upper bracket.
 

highland145

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$20 trillion deficit. Trump is no genius. That money frankly would be better spent on US government functions like dept of energy venture grants. Or even simple debt reduction.
Are you stupid? Who's deficit? Who's shovel ready jobs?

Wall Street Bailout:
The bank bail outs...not. They paid theirs with interest.
GM...Americans lost their asses on that one.
Fannie/freddie...black hole of American $$.

So you're saying the increased defic would have been better used on the "shovel ready" jobs? omg...


solyndra, is my bet.
 

desura

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Are you stupid? Who's deficit? Who's shovel ready jobs?

Wall Street Bailout:
The bank bail outs...not. They paid theirs with interest.
GM...Americans lost their asses on that one.
Fannie/freddie...black hole of American $$.

So you're saying the increased defic would have been better used on the "shovel ready" jobs? omg...


solyndra, is my bet.

You sound like someone who actually drinks the supply side coolade. Solyndra is what is known as a measured risk. Sometimes risks don't pan out. That is just life 101. But politically people jump on the flimsiest thing.
 

highland145

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You sound like someone who actually drinks the supply side coolade. Solyndra is what is known as a measured risk. Sometimes risks don't pan out. That is just life 101. But politically people jump on the flimsiest thing.
And the financial losers.
 
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boomerang

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Ideally, I'd like to see any income over say $2 million be taxed at a 70% rate.

Trump earning $153 million or so in 2005 and paying $38 million in taxes is only 24%.
Why did you choose 70%? Why not 95%? What's your logic behind the number you chose?

Why not make it 100% on everybody? Think of what could be accomplished with that. All income turned over to the government with a stipend given to every warm body within our borders so that everybody is equal. The things a government could do with that kind of income is just staggering to think about.

A bit of a related question. Do you think that $115 million was money Trump could spend as he wished? You know mad money to spend on super fast computers, electronic gadgets, iPhones, weed and slurpees down at the 7-eleven?
 

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I'm being completely serious here...if you make $150 million in a year you should be paying over 50% in taxes. And Trump would still be fine...

Does that include corporations too, since they are people according to the Supreme court.

Like this typical liberal tech company, always on the right side of social justice issues, but don't even think twice about asking them to pay their fair share while employing people in near slave conditions with suicide nets to keep them from killing themselves, yet they cry for justice to the tax payer funded US courts when someone allegedly copies their rounded corners.

How Apple paid just 0.005% tax on its global profits
http://money.cnn.com/2016/08/30/technology/apple-tax-ruling-numbers/
Consider this: In 2014, the corporate giant paid just $50 in tax for every million it made selling iPhones and iPads to most of the world outside America.


That's a tax rate of just 0.005%. Yes, you read that correctly.

So how was that allowed to happen?

Apple has funneled most of its profits from Europe, the Middle East, Africa and India through Ireland for decades. Nothing unusual in that. Others do it too.

But under deals the company struck with the Irish government as far back as 1991, it was allowed to split these profits between its Ireland branch and an Apple head office that existed only on paper.

Apple paid the standard Irish tax rate on profits booked to its Ireland branch. Those it allocated to the phantom head office were tax free, because under Irish law it was then considered a "stateless company."

Guess where most of the profits went?

In 2011, Apple Sales International made 16 billion euros in profits. Less than 50 million euros were allocated to the Irish branch. The rest went to the "head office," out of reach of any tax authority.

It was an arrangement that also suited the Irish government.

Ireland has set its corporate tax rate at 12.5%, one of the lowest in Europe, to attract big companies to the country.

Apple (AAPL, Tech30), Google (GOOGL, Tech30), Facebook (FB, Tech30), eBay (EBAY) and Twitter (TWTR, Tech30) have all set up their EU headquarters in Ireland.

And with them came the jobs. Apple employes 6,000 people in Ireland, many of them making iMacs at a factory in Cork -- once a deprived city in the south of Ireland. Apple says it is the biggest private employer in the city.

EU states can set their own rate of tax. But European officials say Ireland's arrangements with Apple gave the company such a huge financial advantage over its competitors that it constituted illegal state aid.

Apple doesn't want to pay the tax even though the $14.6 billion, plus interest, it might have to repay constitutes just 5% of the $231 billion in cash it has on its books.

Ireland doesn't like the ruling either, calling it an "encroachment" into its sovereignty. The country said Apple has paid what it owed in Ireland.
 

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So if the reason he paid so little taxes before was "I'm smart" does he now have to admit he's dumb?
 

Jhhnn

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Or the left media.

Really? You're not an idiot. Neither side's "media" is factual. The day you trust any of the main stream, alone, you should hang it up.

Duh-vert, huh? There is no reason other than trust in Trump to believe that the fragment of his alleged 2005 tax return is factual in any way.

Given the record, there's absolutely no reason to trust anything he says. Period.
 

Pens1566

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His income is also a little low for someone that is supposedly worth 10+ Billion. Pretty shitty return %, no?