EVE Online Ambulation Expansion = Sex !

[Drift3r]

I'll be honest in my fanboism for EVE as it's the only MMO I feel is worth playing if you want a game world you can effect and mold as a player. The new ambulation addition will just make this game even better then it already is. Enjoy the recent development screenshots just released.


http://www.eurogamer.net/galle...ticle_id=312505#anchor

 

[TheVrolok]

I really wish I had gotten into EVE earlier. I've only been playing for maybe, 1.5-2 months tops? Great game. It's definitely different than other MMOs, and I admit that I had a great time with WoW before I "beat" it and it became really, really dull. The only problem with EVE is that it just leaves newbies in the dust. Especially when T3 comes out.. eek. It takes so much time to properly train up T2 ships that I can't imagine how useless new players are going to be once T3 ships are in full swing. Sure, you can still scout with a T1 frigate, but other than that.. there's going to be months of training involved before a pilot is of any use.

edit:

The way they're handling T3 fitting seems really cool though. Being able to fit entire sections of a ship differently so that the ship itself is structurally different even before fittings. Pretty awesome.

I know there's a least a few AT members who play EVE, anyone do FW? If so, what factions?

 

[Maximilian]

EVE is a massive waste of time lol

 

[Canai]

Originally posted by: Maximilian
EVE is a massive waste of time lol

Oh, thanks for adding nothing to the thread. Ass.

I'm looking forward to seeing my fat asian man w/ pedosmile waddling about.

I've got a pair of chars who are about three months old now. One is Gallente drone spec and the other is Achura covops / ewar. Pretty fun so far.

 

[TheVrolok]

Originally posted by: Maximilian
EVE is a massive waste of time lol

I usually agree completely with Yahtzee when he reviews a game. I can understand what he says about EVE, and some of it is definitely accurate, but like always, I think he goes to extremes. The thing I love about EVE is that I can still improve my character when I don't have time to play. Certain weeks I work 3 12's back to back and I go to the gym in the middle. So it's wake up, go to work, gym, home, food, sleep, rinse and repeat for a few days. I love setting a multiple day skill to train and then not having to log on for three days just to get a sense of accomplishment. Also, EVE is real PvP, winner take all. No carebear respawning with nothing lost.

 

[hooflung]

Originally posted by: Maximilian
EVE is a massive waste of time lol

I used to be a big zero fan until recently. Now he pretty much half asses his review. In EVE, he played it in possibly the worst way anyone could interface with that game and delivers one of the worst gaming reviews he's ever done.

Honestly, ZP couldn't review a PVP MMO if someone was holding a gun to his head. He's not only incapable but he's too pig headed to get his hands dirty.

 

[PhatoseAlpha]

How's EVE's player base going, anyway? I tried it for a couple of days, and came to the conclusion that the only way to make it more hostile to new players would be to adopt the interface from the X-series. Between the time based leveling system, and the PvP focus which always favors older players, even if the character is new, simply because of equipment gimping, it just came across as a game that didn't want me there.

 

[Acanthus]

Originally posted by: PhatoseAlpha
How's EVE's player base going, anyway? I tried it for a couple of days, and came to the conclusion that the only way to make it more hostile to new players would be to adopt the interface from the X-series. Between the time based leveling system, and the PvP focus which always favors older players, even if the character is new, simply because of equipment gimping, it just came across as a game that didn't want me there.

Thats pretty much where im at with EVE. The game plays like the developers are literally trying to piss you off as a new pilot. (im an 11m SP pilot now)

Pluses: Space game, very good game economy, modifyable world

Minuses: Steep learning curve, complete lack of fleet battles (4 minutes of lag does not a fleet battle make), unbreakable warp scrams, poor interface, slow gameplay, low-skilled gameplay, time based SP system leaves all players who are new stuck in high security space, solo play is strongly discouraged by the game mechanics.

 

[TheVrolok]

Originally posted by: Acanthus

Originally posted by: PhatoseAlpha
How's EVE's player base going, anyway? I tried it for a couple of days, and came to the conclusion that the only way to make it more hostile to new players would be to adopt the interface from the X-series. Between the time based leveling system, and the PvP focus which always favors older players, even if the character is new, simply because of equipment gimping, it just came across as a game that didn't want me there.

Thats pretty much where im at with EVE. The game plays like the developers are literally trying to piss you off as a new pilot. (im an 11m SP pilot now)

Pluses: Space game, very good game economy, modifyable world

Minuses: Steep learning curve, complete lack of fleet battles (4 minutes of lag does not a fleet battle make), unbreakable warp scrams, poor interface, slow gameplay, low-skilled gameplay, time based SP system leaves all players who are new stuck in high security space, solo play is strongly discouraged by the game mechanics.

I don't see how you could be doing that badly at 11m SP. What are you flying/trying to do?

I enjoy the FW, even if it's only roaming and ganking. The massive fleet battles are far and few between (as much as I don't like the sway toward plexing, at least there are some decent confrontations over the plexes), but even the 15v15s are cool. Like I said earlier, I do agree though, that especially when T3 comes out, new players are going to be left in the dust. It's going to be bad.

 

[Borealis7]

is it going to be free anytime in the future?
for instance Anarchy Online, the old FunCom MMO which is loads of fun, became free but the expansions require monthly pay. any chance EVE will do the same?

 

[nsafreak]

Originally posted by: Borealis7
is it going to be free anytime in the future?
for instance Anarchy Online, the old FunCom MMO which is loads of fun, became free but the expansions require monthly pay. any chance EVE will do the same?

Highly unlikely. The game is still growing at a decent pace and they're putting a decent amount of funds into the game. The thing you have to remember is that all expansions to EvE Online are free, the only thing you pay for is the monthly subscription price. They've also got a lot more invested in hardware to run this MMO than I'm sure Anarchy Online has for their hardware. They're running a single shard for everybody to connect to which takes a massive amount of horsepower to run.

 

[ITPaladin]

Originally posted by: Acanthus

Originally posted by: PhatoseAlpha
How's EVE's player base going, anyway? I tried it for a couple of days, and came to the conclusion that the only way to make it more hostile to new players would be to adopt the interface from the X-series. Between the time based leveling system, and the PvP focus which always favors older players, even if the character is new, simply because of equipment gimping, it just came across as a game that didn't want me there.

Thats pretty much where im at with EVE. The game plays like the developers are literally trying to piss you off as a new pilot. (im an 11m SP pilot now)

Pluses: Space game, very good game economy, modifyable world

Minuses: Steep learning curve (not if people would take the time to actually do ALL of the tutorials the 'ship computer' offers, as well as the online guides right on the Eve Online website and sticky threads in the forums, plus the myraid of guides online elsewhere; being a miner at start forces you to spend time reading...Also join a learning corporation such as Eve University), complete lack of fleet battles (4 minutes of lag does not a fleet battle make) (they are addressing lag with recent expansion and updates), unbreakable warp scrams (recent update you have option of using afterburner in addition to MWD; otherwise it is breakable if you break the person doing it), poor interface (once again, if you pay attention they are addressing this), slow gameplay (many will tell you the game is what you make of it), low-skilled gameplay (player skill? Explain), time based SP system leaves all players who are new stuck in high security space (wrong. You need to read the guides that link to a forum post about some new player's first 14 days he spent in low security. New players have it best in learning pvp as it is cheaper to lose t1 frigates/cruisers/cheap implants/medical clones), solo play is strongly discouraged by the game mechanics. (if you want to pvp maybe as it is not safe to go alone in low/null security)

 

[Praxis1452]

Originally posted by: Acanthus

Originally posted by: PhatoseAlpha
How's EVE's player base going, anyway? I tried it for a couple of days, and came to the conclusion that the only way to make it more hostile to new players would be to adopt the interface from the X-series. Between the time based leveling system, and the PvP focus which always favors older players, even if the character is new, simply because of equipment gimping, it just came across as a game that didn't want me there.

Thats pretty much where im at with EVE. The game plays like the developers are literally trying to piss you off as a new pilot. (im an 11m SP pilot now)

Pluses: Space game, very good game economy, modifyable world

Minuses: Steep learning curve, complete lack of fleet battles (4 minutes of lag does not a fleet battle make), unbreakable warp scrams, poor interface, slow gameplay, low-skilled gameplay, time based SP system leaves all players who are new stuck in high security space, solo play is strongly discouraged by the game mechanics.

You don't have to be in high-sec. It's a choice. I jumped into lowsec on my trial so its false. If you don't want to take the risk then you can't really complain. The option is open.

warp scrambs should be unbreakable. What's the point if everyone just runs away. You've got to be able to hold them easily. If you get scrambed it's because you made some bad choices or you had no scout... which is in itself a bad choice in 0.0,

The 2 really true points even most eve players will admit: solo-play is discouraged. You need a lot of patience and skill to pull off solo pvp. Well... it depends but generally yes.

And UI is shit. <-x1000

 

[Maximilian]

Originally posted by: hooflung

Originally posted by: Maximilian
EVE is a massive waste of time lol

I used to be a big zero fan until recently. Now he pretty much half asses his review. In EVE, he played it in possibly the worst way anyone could interface with that game and delivers one of the worst gaming reviews he's ever done.

Honestly, ZP couldn't review a PVP MMO if someone was holding a gun to his head. He's not only incapable but he's too pig headed to get his hands dirty.

So you liked him until he made fun of your game... ok then

 

[ITPaladin]

Originally posted by: Maximilian

Originally posted by: hooflung

Originally posted by: Maximilian
EVE is a massive waste of time lol

I used to be a big zero fan until recently. Now he pretty much half asses his review. In EVE, he played it in possibly the worst way anyone could interface with that game and delivers one of the worst gaming reviews he's ever done.

Honestly, ZP couldn't review a PVP MMO if someone was holding a gun to his head. He's not only incapable but he's too pig headed to get his hands dirty.

So you liked him until he made fun of your game... ok then

If you read the comments on that page you will see many people think he doesn't do a good job for MMOG's.
He only played the game for the 14/21 trial days. That is not enough to get to know it.
Getting the attribute skill training done that lowers time to train for other skills takes at least a week.

 

[NikolaeVarius]

Originally posted by: ITPaladin

Originally posted by: Maximilian

Originally posted by: hooflung

Originally posted by: Maximilian
EVE is a massive waste of time lol

I used to be a big zero fan until recently. Now he pretty much half asses his review. In EVE, he played it in possibly the worst way anyone could interface with that game and delivers one of the worst gaming reviews he's ever done.

Honestly, ZP couldn't review a PVP MMO if someone was holding a gun to his head. He's not only incapable but he's too pig headed to get his hands dirty.

So you liked him until he made fun of your game... ok then

If you read the comments on that page you will see many people think he doesn't do a good job for MMOG's.
He only played the game for the 14/21 trial days. That is not enough to get to know it.
Getting the attribute skill training done that lowers time to train for other skills takes at least a week.

I think that was one of his points. Working toward better skills is one thing. BUt having to train skills so you can train other skills? Kind of retarded.And yes, I've been playing Eve for almost 2 years now and he makes lots of valid comments. I agree that corporations are a big part of the game, but outside of that, the game is kinda lacking.

 

[Jschmuck2]

Originally posted by: ITPaladin

Originally posted by: Acanthus

Originally posted by: PhatoseAlpha
How's EVE's player base going, anyway? I tried it for a couple of days, and came to the conclusion that the only way to make it more hostile to new players would be to adopt the interface from the X-series. Between the time based leveling system, and the PvP focus which always favors older players, even if the character is new, simply because of equipment gimping, it just came across as a game that didn't want me there.

Thats pretty much where im at with EVE. The game plays like the developers are literally trying to piss you off as a new pilot. (im an 11m SP pilot now)

Pluses: Space game, very good game economy, modifyable world

Minuses: Steep learning curve (not if people would take the time to actually do ALL of the tutorials the 'ship computer' offers, as well as the online guides right on the Eve Online website and sticky threads in the forums, plus the myraid of guides online elsewhere; being a miner at start forces you to spend time reading...Also join a learning corporation such as Eve University), complete lack of fleet battles (4 minutes of lag does not a fleet battle make) (they are addressing lag with recent expansion and updates), unbreakable warp scrams (recent update you have option of using afterburner in addition to MWD; otherwise it is breakable if you break the person doing it), poor interface (once again, if you pay attention they are addressing this), slow gameplay (many will tell you the game is what you make of it), low-skilled gameplay (player skill? Explain), time based SP system leaves all players who are new stuck in high security space (wrong. You need to read the guides that link to a forum post about some new player's first 14 days he spent in low security. New players have it best in learning pvp as it is cheaper to lose t1 frigates/cruisers/cheap implants/medical clones), solo play is strongly discouraged by the game mechanics. (if you want to pvp maybe as it is not safe to go alone in low/null security)

Well golly THAT sounds like fun!!!

 

[Maximilian]

Originally posted by: ITPaladin

Originally posted by: Maximilian

Originally posted by: hooflung

Originally posted by: Maximilian
EVE is a massive waste of time lol

I used to be a big zero fan until recently. Now he pretty much half asses his review. In EVE, he played it in possibly the worst way anyone could interface with that game and delivers one of the worst gaming reviews he's ever done.

Honestly, ZP couldn't review a PVP MMO if someone was holding a gun to his head. He's not only incapable but he's too pig headed to get his hands dirty.

So you liked him until he made fun of your game... ok then

If you read the comments on that page you will see many people think he doesn't do a good job for MMOG's.
He only played the game for the 14/21 trial days. That is not enough to get to know it.
Getting the attribute skill training done that lowers time to train for other skills takes at least a week.

Maybe thats because MMOG's are mostly crap except for world of warcraft...

 

[NikolaeVarius]

Originally posted by: Maximilian

Originally posted by: ITPaladin

Originally posted by: Maximilian

Originally posted by: hooflung

Originally posted by: Maximilian
EVE is a massive waste of time lol

I used to be a big zero fan until recently. Now he pretty much half asses his review. In EVE, he played it in possibly the worst way anyone could interface with that game and delivers one of the worst gaming reviews he's ever done.

Honestly, ZP couldn't review a PVP MMO if someone was holding a gun to his head. He's not only incapable but he's too pig headed to get his hands dirty.

So you liked him until he made fun of your game... ok then

If you read the comments on that page you will see many people think he doesn't do a good job for MMOG's.
He only played the game for the 14/21 trial days. That is not enough to get to know it.
Getting the attribute skill training done that lowers time to train for other skills takes at least a week.

Maybe thats because MMOG's are mostly crap except for world of warcraft...

What?

 

[Drift3r]

Originally posted by: Maximilian

Originally posted by: hooflung

Originally posted by: Maximilian
EVE is a massive waste of time lol

I used to be a big zero fan until recently. Now he pretty much half asses his review. In EVE, he played it in possibly the worst way anyone could interface with that game and delivers one of the worst gaming reviews he's ever done.

Honestly, ZP couldn't review a PVP MMO if someone was holding a gun to his head. He's not only incapable but he's too pig headed to get his hands dirty.

So you liked him until he made fun of your game... ok then

Let's be honest. ZP's reviews are satire based reviews designed more to get a chuckle by over blowing obvious and/or small flaws into giant chasms of "FAIL". I never understood why people do no realize that the guy is a comic first and game reviewer second. He even admits that he believes that all MMO's are a giant waste of time and that he hates the genre with a passion. Seriously what kind of review were people expecting from this guy?

 

[Drift3r]

Originally posted by: Maximilian

Originally posted by: ITPaladin

Originally posted by: Maximilian

Originally posted by: hooflung

Originally posted by: Maximilian
EVE is a massive waste of time lol

I used to be a big zero fan until recently. Now he pretty much half asses his review. In EVE, he played it in possibly the worst way anyone could interface with that game and delivers one of the worst gaming reviews he's ever done.

Honestly, ZP couldn't review a PVP MMO if someone was holding a gun to his head. He's not only incapable but he's too pig headed to get his hands dirty.

So you liked him until he made fun of your game... ok then

If you read the comments on that page you will see many people think he doesn't do a good job for MMOG's.
He only played the game for the 14/21 trial days. That is not enough to get to know it.
Getting the attribute skill training done that lowers time to train for other skills takes at least a week.

Maybe thats because MMOG's are mostly crap except for world of warcraft...

Strictly your opinion. WoW is fucking boring as hell to me period. No real point to PvP in the game besides collecting points to buy armor/weapons and PvE scripted AI raids are dull as hell the second, third, fourth, etc... time around.

 

[WelshBloke]

Originally posted by: ITPaladin

Originally posted by: Maximilian

Originally posted by: hooflung

Originally posted by: Maximilian
EVE is a massive waste of time lol

I used to be a big zero fan until recently. Now he pretty much half asses his review. In EVE, he played it in possibly the worst way anyone could interface with that game and delivers one of the worst gaming reviews he's ever done.

Honestly, ZP couldn't review a PVP MMO if someone was holding a gun to his head. He's not only incapable but he's too pig headed to get his hands dirty.

So you liked him until he made fun of your game... ok then

If you read the comments on that page you will see many people think he doesn't do a good job for MMOG's.
He only played the game for the 14/21 trial days. That is not enough to get to know it.
Getting the attribute skill training done that lowers time to train for other skills takes at least a week.

If I'm not getting fun after 14 days playing a game then I'm going to find better things to do.

 

[SunnyD]

Originally posted by: Drift3r

Originally posted by: Maximilian

Originally posted by: ITPaladin

Originally posted by: Maximilian

Originally posted by: hooflung

Originally posted by: Maximilian
EVE is a massive waste of time lol

I used to be a big zero fan until recently. Now he pretty much half asses his review. In EVE, he played it in possibly the worst way anyone could interface with that game and delivers one of the worst gaming reviews he's ever done.

Honestly, ZP couldn't review a PVP MMO if someone was holding a gun to his head. He's not only incapable but he's too pig headed to get his hands dirty.

So you liked him until he made fun of your game... ok then

If you read the comments on that page you will see many people think he doesn't do a good job for MMOG's.
He only played the game for the 14/21 trial days. That is not enough to get to know it.
Getting the attribute skill training done that lowers time to train for other skills takes at least a week.

Maybe thats because MMOG's are mostly crap except for world of warcraft...

Strictly your opinion. WoW is fucking boring as hell to me period. No real point to PvP in the game besides collecting points to buy armor/weapons and PvE scripted AI raids are dull as hell the second, third, fourth, etc... time around.

Ironic, I can easily draw the exact same conclusions about EVE. (Of course I wholeheartedly agree in terms of WoW too).

 

[Drift3r]

Originally posted by: SunnyD

Originally posted by: Drift3r

Originally posted by: Maximilian

Originally posted by: ITPaladin

Originally posted by: Maximilian

Originally posted by: hooflung

Originally posted by: Maximilian
EVE is a massive waste of time lol

I used to be a big zero fan until recently. Now he pretty much half asses his review. In EVE, he played it in possibly the worst way anyone could interface with that game and delivers one of the worst gaming reviews he's ever done.

Honestly, ZP couldn't review a PVP MMO if someone was holding a gun to his head. He's not only incapable but he's too pig headed to get his hands dirty.

So you liked him until he made fun of your game... ok then

If you read the comments on that page you will see many people think he doesn't do a good job for MMOG's.
He only played the game for the 14/21 trial days. That is not enough to get to know it.
Getting the attribute skill training done that lowers time to train for other skills takes at least a week.

Maybe thats because MMOG's are mostly crap except for world of warcraft...

Strictly your opinion. WoW is fucking boring as hell to me period. No real point to PvP in the game besides collecting points to buy armor/weapons and PvE scripted AI raids are dull as hell the second, third, fourth, etc... time around.

Ironic, I can easily draw the exact same conclusions about EVE. (Of course I wholeheartedly agree in terms of WoW too).

I don't see why if you are comparing it to WoW. There are a hell of a lot more reasons to PvP and PvE ( which is usually to support any PvP exploits ) in EVE then in WoW. For folks in 0.0 space this is especially true if they hold contested territory and must constantly defend it against attacks from rival Alliances or other random gankers. Not to mention that being in a 200 man fleet fight is somewhat awesome and I had the chance to be in one about 4 days ago. Now that CCP has recently updated their server backbone infrastructure to support more players in fleet battles they aren't as lag-tas-tic. Hell there has been a 1,000 man fleet battle recently as well and it did not cause major problems like those battles used to in the past. Though I will admit that that 1,000 ship fleet fight was probably laggy as hell for that system even with the infrastructure upgrade but it was still do-able by the players invovled.

http://img242.imageshack.us/img242/104/1034rs3.jpg

Of course you don't have to be in a huge fleet battle to have fun. I just got done with a 15 man roaming gang op and we had some nice kills. After the fleet op was over my Alliance mates headed home. From our home area a few of us ( about 7-9 ships ) decided to go and bust up a local gate camp by a rival Alliance. This resulted in more notches on our belts.

Anyways everything you do in EVE has some sort of impact on the game universe which is why I think this is the best MMORPG out there. It fulfills the important criteria that all MMO's should strive for which is allowing players to shape and mold the virtual universe they inhabit instead of having dev's steer them along with scripted NPC's and their limited AI as if they were on a amusement park ride in Disneyland.

 

[NikolaeVarius]

Good God, turn your brackets off.