European Adventure

xanis

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Here's the deal. My friends and I would like to take a 2 month trip to Europe a-la Eurotrip after graduation next year. What I wanted was the opinion of ATOT on whether or not this would be a good idea.

The plan is to make this as cheap as possible whie getting the best experience possible. We would like to turn this into a no-frills adventure experience. We would like to backpack for a good portion of the trip, to see and do as much as we possibly can. This is not to be confused for a vaction. On the contrary, this is a (hopefully) life-changing experience that will allow us to find ourselves. This is why nothing is going to be fancy. I have already stated that we will be backpacking for some distances. Beyond that, I'm kind of lost. Below is a list of questions that I have followed by a concept travel route that we have considered.

Also, some background information:

We all have current and legit passports. One or all four of us will get an International Driver's License. We don't think we would need it, but you never know. Even though we are backpacking, we will be using Eurorail or some other mode of inter-european travel to cover the larger distances. We will all be 18.


SECTION 1 -- QUESTIONS

1. Where could I get the cheapest possibly airfare to Europe? We plan on coming in to London or Frankfurt, two of the more common European airports.

2. How much would a Eurorail pass, to all of the 18 servicable countries, cost per person?

3. Would it be a good idea to get a cell phone for use in other countries?

4. How much money should we each bring? The trip is going to be around 2 months, probably less.

5.Which countries should we avoid?


SECTION 2 -- CONCERNS

-We don't know much of any foreign language except for German and Spanish
-We really don't have that much cash to use on this trip
-We have no clue where to stay, as we really don't have the cash for Hotels


Basically, what I want are some suggestions for how to make this trip as cheap as humanly possible. We do not want to live in luxury for this trip, we just want to be able to immerse ourselves in a European experience.

Also, if you have any suggestions on things to do/see/eat, please list them.


SECTION 3 -- TENTATIVE ITENERARY
**London is the start and end location

1) London, UK
2) Amsterdam, The Netherlands
3) Oslo, Norway
4) Stockholm, Sweden
5) Coppenhagen, Denmark
6) Berlin, Germany
7) Lubin, Poland
8) Prague, Czech Republic
9) Vienna, Austria
10) Innsbruck, Austria
11) Geneva, Switzerland
12) Lyon, France
13) Paris, France
14) Brussels, Belgium
15) London, UK
 

blackdogdeek

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hostels are your friend. much, much, much cheaper than hotels.

EDIT: my favorite cities:

london, prague, florence, venice, rome, nice, vienna

EDIT2: and amsterdam :)
 

puffff

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Cheap airfare, look at student travel agencies. Get one of those ISIC student cards, good for discounts. Europe has a lot of discount airlines too. For example, Ryan Air and BMI Baby often have unbelievably cheap flights to and from London.

Stay in hostels. Cheapest accomodation in most places.

As for the rail pass, look at The Man in Seat 61. If you're sticking to western european countries, you can generally find the cost between cities on the internet. Draw up a rough itinerary, add it what it'd cost you, and compare to see if a rail pass actually makes sense. I've met people while traveling that bought the rail pass only to find out it would've been A LOT cheaper to buy tickets individually.
 

Jzero

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Buy a copy of Rick Steves' Europe Through The Back Door. Very useful info in there.
 

puffff

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Originally posted by: Xanis
Check the OP for edit

Hate to say it, but your trip may be a bit costly, seeing as you're going to some expensive cities. To get the most out of the places you visit, I'd guess you'll be spending about $50-100 a day, depending on how many admission charging sites you visit.
 

Fern

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Sep 30, 2003
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OK, I've done this before.

8 week trip and 15 cities spread out all over Europe? You'll spend more traveling (sitting in stations and on trains) tahn anything else. What do you have, 3 or 4 days per city? That only gives about 1 or 2 days to see the city. Trains are not that fast, and you'll spend time shlepping your crap around and checking into-out of Hostels etc.

What time of year? For example if in the August vacation time-frame you'll be in Paris and find everythings closed!

Trains are the predominate form of travel. But there are "hitch hiking" companies. It's where one with a car/van says he to going to x city, you can pay a small fee (to help cover gas) and go with.

London is a good place to start because they speak English and its easier to acclimate yourself. But you're gonna have to pay to get to the Continent.

Schipol (sp?) in Amtserdam might be cheaper (not to mention more fun). Oh, they consider English to be the "primary" language there too. I've heard Dutch bartenders make fun of people who come to Amsterdam and don't know how to speak English.

15 cities and eight weeks. Ughh.. I'd rather fly into London (or Amsterdam) hang out a few days and then figure out where to go next. To much scheduling and rushing to meet it would make this more work than fun for me.

You ain't gonna want to go back top London just to get a plane home? Seems a waste of money and time to travel back to where you've already been.

Drop Oslo Norway. Its wayyyy expensive and out of the way.


Try this:
Go to London. Hang for a bit (maybe 4 or 5 days). There's lots to see (and learn - will help with info on your next steps etc.)

Then go to Amsterdam. Prolly only take a day to get there by train etc. Brussles is a little closer but not near as fun, I'd skip it.

Afterward decide if your going South or North. I'd go south to Paris. Its a big city. Don't eat near tourist attractions (e.g Eiffel tower) the food's crap and they don't care - you're a tourist and won't be back anyway. Hang out at Chatelet, watch the babes and street performers etc.

From there take the TGV (fast train) to either the Montpelier area near the Mediterainean (nice country side, great food, beaches) or Biarritz (sp?) on the Atlantic side.

If you go Biarritz, you'll find it easier to keep moving south on down to Spain & Portugal.

If you go Montpelier (my choice), then you can more easily head over to Italy or Switzerland. I prefer Italy. Swiss are thought to be extremely boring by the other Euro's, and its expensive.

In Italy I like Rome, best city in Europe IMHO. Very interesting, friendly peeps etc.

I would pass on Venice. Its a turist trap. Crap food high prices etc.

Sorrento is a fav (beautiful old piazza's, on the coast. Take the bus ride down Amalfi. Best fifty cents you'll ever spend. Take a boat trip to Capri or one of the other Islands and spend a day hiking)

Florence is great too. Suburb food.

Fly back to the US from Rome.

I wouldn't plan on much more than that. Otherwise you'll be moving to fast to really see/enjoy anything. Too superficial. And don't worry about moving too slow with only the cities I mention above. Each one of them has more than you'll ever see in a month, plus excursions to nearby places of interest are abundant (Sorrento is near Mt. Vesuvios etc. Paris has many outlying towns with the big chateau's etc.)

Oh, the best peice of advice (which I doubt you'll take) is to go alone. That way you meets lots of people, make new friends, travel to their town and stay with their family and really get to know Europe. You'll find that you "grow up" a lot as well, it can be intimdating traveling by yourself. Also, won't get into arguments with your "friends" who wanna go to the Louvre when you wanna go to (insert cool place here) etc.

Good Luck and enjoy,

BTW: Aren't there tons of books like "Europe on $10 a day"?

Fern