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EU versus George Bush Jr.

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Ameesh

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i usually hate when other countries or the UN try to dictate American policy but this is pretty clever of the EU,

Our favorite good ol boy GW decided he wanted to impose some new tarrifs on the EU's exports so the EU decided they would impose tarrifs on goods that are exported out states that bush had a very close balance like flordia, north carolina, pennsylvania products like citrus fruits and harley davidson bikes to tip the balance for the next election.


i dont like how they can play with american policy but i can appreciate the technique.
 
Maybe GW will next say, play the way we want or will will carpet bomb your euro-trash butts back to the middle ages. I bet the EU would change their tune a bit.
 
If you just put up new tarrifs whenever you feel like what is the point of the WTO and other trading blocks?
 


<< Maybe GW will next say, play the way we want or will will carpet bomb your euro-trash butts back to the middle ages. I bet the EU would change their tune a bit. >>



i doubt he would ever or could ever do something like this.
 
Boy the EU is brilliant! They put a tarrif on a Harley Davidson motorcycle that has no real competition in the marketplace so they only hurt the people in Europe who wants to buy the motorcycle. What a bunch of idiots.
 
Let's see, Bush imposes tarrifs because some countries of the EU are dumping steel at or below cost.
edit, I just read some more and it appears to be China and S. Korea that were doing the dumping.

The EU in a fit of spite bans Hogs, well just because.

I'm starting to be convinced that the Europeans have been inbreeding for far too long.

Harley-Davidson not concerned by tariff speculation

"...Even if tariffs were imposed, Hice said it would not have a major impact on the company's bottom line because the European market represents only 10 percent of Harley-Davidson's sales and it could move the motorcycles elsewhere...."


The EU has now in a fit of hypocrisy heretofore unseen has now added tariffs on the same steel.
EU Readies Tariffs to Protect Steel
 
Foreign dumping is illegal. What GW did is fine by me.

The EU will anger more of their own "citizens" than anyone else with this latest "Harley" move. I say that because every German male I know dreams of one day owning a Harley. It's sort of like American males and their love of the Corvette.
 
GW and fam is a sick lot.

On October 20, 1942, the federal government seized the Union Banking Corporation in New York City as a front operation for the Nazis. Prescott Bush was a director. Bush, E. Roland Harriman, two Bush associates, and three Nazi executives owned the bank?s shares. Eight days later, the Roosevelt administration seized two other corporations managed by Prescott Bush. The Holland-American Trading Corporation and the Seamless Steel Equipment Corporation, both managed by the Bush-Harriman bank, were accused by the US federal government of being front organizations for Hitler?s Third Reich. Again, on November 8, 1942, the federal government seized Nazi-controlled assets of Silesian-American Corporation, another Bush-Harriman company doing business with Hitler.

http://www.mbpolitics.com/bush2000/Vesting.htm


http://www.tarpley.net/bush1.htm

His daddy was also CIA director during some of its worst times.
 
Bullsh!t so nice, he had to post it twice...

Yet the former President Bush was shot down TWICE in the Pacific defending your right to slur his family.

Oh the irony...
 
Yes and the same president who pulled out of the Kyoto agreement instead of renegotiating. Now we have ice shelves falling off and Bush doesn't care.
I do not like Bush. He caters to big business with no thought to the people it affects.
Enh like it matters, I'm going to get 2 responses to this. The first will be people who dislike Bush and will add their opinions.
The second will be people who love Bush and will jump all over me. To you people I say, OPEN YOUR EYES!
 


<< The EU has now in a fit of hypocrisy heretofore unseen has now added tariffs on the same steel.
EU Readies Tariffs to Protect Steel >>



I already said this on another thread, but I might as well repeat it here:

According to WTO-rules if one country (in this case USA) imposes regulations and tariffs that are in violation with WTO-rules (lin this case quotas and tariffs for imported steel) and that causes instability in normal market-conditions (steel formerly headed to USA would now be headed towards EU), other parties (in this case EU) has the right to shield itself (in this case, impose tariffs on steel) to protect themselves from that instability in the market.

EU is playing by the rules. No hypocrisy there. They are just shielding themselves from the market-instability caused by USA's tariffs.

And EU wasn't dumping steel to USA. The reason why american companies couldn't compete with imported steel was because american companies has old, inefficient steel-mills and they haven't consolidated their numbers. In EU, the mills are new and efficient, and the consolidation took place years ago. Whereas american steel-companies are bloated and slow, their foreign competitors are lean 'n mean.

And, according to statistics, most steel-imports to USA came from Canada and Mexico.
 
ITs not that the EU is dumping steel labor costs for producing steel are lower and steel is very labor intensive.

Labor costs in the us are considered high that causes the price disparity between us and other countries steel
 
guys get the faczs straight:
china and n. korea are tho eones dumping steel below price.
in europe the steel industry is majorly subsidized by the government so they can meet the market price (otherwise eu-steel would be way overpriced).
the US is doing neither and was playing by the rules while the others didn't

in my opinion the latest european tariffs move calls for a major butt-fvck!!!
There should be tarrifs on EVERYTHING imported from europe that is also produced in the US!!!

BUY AMERICAN!!!!!!!!!!!!
 


<< If you just put up new tarrifs whenever you feel like what is the point of the WTO and other trading blocks? >>



To save your own ass in the next election. (saving steel mills and such, huge lobbying group)
 


<< in europe the steel industry is majorly subsidized by the government so they can meet the market price (otherwise eu-steel would be way overpriced) >>



Myth: Subsidization of foreign steel producers distorts steel trade and is a major cause of the so-called crisis.

Reality: We agree that subsidies distort trade flows. And it is true that subsidies were a significant distortion to trade flows in the past. Countries all around the world, in Europe, Latin America and Asia were significant owners of and subsidizers of steelmaking companies. However, the process of privatization and elimination of subsidies has been the trend everywhere in the world, except in the US. Only in the US has subsidization been on the increase, both for the weak mills and the minimills, who have been adding capacity with heavy subsidies from state and local governments. US subsidies distort trade. They must end.

Source

The reason why EU steel-producers are more competetive than their american counterparts is because steel-mills in EU are modern and efficient and the consolidation in the industry has already taken place. That is not the case in USA, where consolidation has been limited and the mills are old and inefficient.
 


<< I'm all for free AND fair trade.

I applaud Bush in his decision. >>


how is it possible to look at Bush actions and then compare them to free and fair trade?
 


<< I'm all for free AND fair trade.

I applaud Bush in his decision. >>



Trade cannot be free if "fairness" is achieved by stomping on the necks of the successful, to help those who are less efficient.

"Fair" trade only means everyone has an equal opportunity to enter and compete in the market. It does NOT mean artificially lifting up one company by stomping on the necks of others. Your "fair"ness will only result in a lack growth and innovation, as it punishes success.
 
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