Escort ZR3 Laser Jammer
- Thread starter tvbi
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Laser jammer = worthless and/or BS
Laser does not broadcast in big wave like radar; laser gets pointing at something big & reflective, like your front bumper/license plate. If your detector picks it up, its either by accident or you're already fvcked.
Aren't "laser jammers" illegal anyway?
Just buy an Escort Passport 8500 or the Valentine V1 and get it over with.
Laser does not broadcast in big wave like radar; laser gets pointing at something big & reflective, like your front bumper/license plate. If your detector picks it up, its either by accident or you're already fvcked.
Aren't "laser jammers" illegal anyway?
Just buy an Escort Passport 8500 or the Valentine V1 and get it over with.
Umm, you are talking about a laser detector not a jammer. With a jammer, they won't pick up jack squat if it is pointed at you. You use a jammer inconjuction with a detector. Bascially the jammer jams the signal when your detector picks it up (and an 8500 WILL pick it up) to give you enough time to get under the speed limit and then turn your jammer off. You don't want to use it without a dectector because they are going to know something is up if you drive by them and they can't get a read on you.
But no tvbi, I don't have a jammer but I was lookign to get your exact combo. I already have an 8500.
How would you jam a laser? Unless you scatter the photons away, it's going to bounce back to the source...
But my two main points still stand: (A) Aren't laser jammers illegal in most states anyway? and (B) Does it actually work worth a damn? I'm pretty sure its no on both points. If you live in a state where lots of cops user laser, I know I don't, then maybe you just shouldn't speed or get used to speeding tickets.
I have an 8500 and it has picked up every single cop I've come across plenty in advance, none of which have ever used laser.
Exactly. Read this:
http://www.radarbusters.com/support/jammers/seven_mistakes.asp
My gf had the same detector actually, the Phantom II. The only thing it was good for was picking up Taco Bells and hotels. Jammer my ass
I'm in atlanta and pretty much all HP use laser. The jammer works by sending pulsed laser signal back when it detects laser, it doesn't try to scatter the laser
I read around and this Veil stuff seem to works too http://www.laserveil.com/
I read around and this Veil stuff seem to works too http://www.laserveil.com/
A) It's not a jammer it's "laser shifter."
B) Oh it does.
If you have a state where cops are using radar guns, maybe you shouldn't speed or get used to ticket. Get rid of that 8500.
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Originally posted by: tvbi
So is 20% tint
Speeding in the first palce is illegal, so if your such a law abiding citizen, you won't need the jammer. For people who do speed, thus breaking the law, whats one more law?
Besides, detectors themselves are illegal in a lot of states. I don't give a fvck, and the guy who is asking about jammers probably doesn't give a fvck that their illegal.
Ok ok.
Here is to clear up the confuzzzion!
There are laser jammers and they are LEGAL in most states to my knowledge (is my knowledge old and obsolete yet? Mebby).
Also there are radar jammers, but those are ILLEGAL in all states (I think) so don't even buy those unless you know it is legal in your state.
There are laser jammers that do work and work pretty darn well as they are advertised. I believe I have read a fairly recent article stating a laser jammer that was near 100% effective in blocking lidar (laser). Still, there can be a very small bug or slight error that would let some cops laser hit you, but try to look for the best jammer to reduce those chances.
As for the best radar detector the Escort Passport X50 is the current best OVERALL radar detector.
2nd best/favorite is the Valentine 1.
There is another one that competes with these top two and it is made by Bel I believe.
Anyways the Valentine 1 is the best laser detector out of almost all the top radar detectors so that would probably be a better addition with your laser jammer. Heck if you wanted to just get the X50 + V1 + laser jammer and you will be all set, except for the fact they may interfere with each other and starting giving you falses.
But just remember speed doesn't kill, it's the sudden stop that does.
Here is to clear up the confuzzzion!
There are laser jammers and they are LEGAL in most states to my knowledge (is my knowledge old and obsolete yet? Mebby).
Also there are radar jammers, but those are ILLEGAL in all states (I think) so don't even buy those unless you know it is legal in your state.
There are laser jammers that do work and work pretty darn well as they are advertised. I believe I have read a fairly recent article stating a laser jammer that was near 100% effective in blocking lidar (laser). Still, there can be a very small bug or slight error that would let some cops laser hit you, but try to look for the best jammer to reduce those chances.
As for the best radar detector the Escort Passport X50 is the current best OVERALL radar detector.
2nd best/favorite is the Valentine 1.
There is another one that competes with these top two and it is made by Bel I believe.
Anyways the Valentine 1 is the best laser detector out of almost all the top radar detectors so that would probably be a better addition with your laser jammer. Heck if you wanted to just get the X50 + V1 + laser jammer and you will be all set, except for the fact they may interfere with each other and starting giving you falses.
But just remember speed doesn't kill, it's the sudden stop that does.
No my point was that laser is impractical/illegal to defeat, so just deal with it. Radar is neither impractical or illegal to detect, and can be detected easier than laser; helping you negate the potential of a speeding ticket.
Ah as a note, you can get a license plate cover that makes it harder to detect your speed or screw up the photo cameras, but I think those are illegal.
There is also a spray that screws up the photo cameras, but it is hard to see so you probably will not get caught if you use that.
Driving a slick car also prevents the police from getting a fast reading on your vehicle. For example try driving a corvette vs. a pick-up with a mean front grill.
Also don't have a front license plate, that will be the favorite thing for police to target if they want to know your speed. If you don't have a front license plate they usually then go for the headlights.
I'm thinking something with pop-up lights + a radar absorbing exterior will be one of the ultimate passive anti-radar vehicle. Kinda unrealistic, but I have the right to be creative and dream!
There is also a spray that screws up the photo cameras, but it is hard to see so you probably will not get caught if you use that.
Driving a slick car also prevents the police from getting a fast reading on your vehicle. For example try driving a corvette vs. a pick-up with a mean front grill.
Also don't have a front license plate, that will be the favorite thing for police to target if they want to know your speed. If you don't have a front license plate they usually then go for the headlights.
I'm thinking something with pop-up lights + a radar absorbing exterior will be one of the ultimate passive anti-radar vehicle. Kinda unrealistic, but I have the right to be creative and dream!
Kinda tough to say.
V1 does perform better in consistent readings, but the X50 has longer range.
V1 also has those arrows so you know when the cop is in front or behind you. You can also see when the cop goes passed you (either way).
I have to say if you are on the highway cops usually go much FASTER than anybody else so they can come up behind you and that is where the V1 really shines IMHO.
How is a laser impractical to beat? The jammer does a WAY better job than just the laser detector. And if you really want to get picky, you've got a better chance avoiding a ticket with a laser than a radar. With an 8500+ZR3 combo, you're pretty safe from a laser shot. But if you are hit with a radar gun and the cop is using on/off, you're most likely getting pulled over, V1 or 8500.
I guess to me $500 isn't just worth it to me. But then again I've never encountered laser in NC and I don't really speed that much (enough to warrant a $500 laser "jammer" anyway). *shrug*
How is it able to detect a laser signal, aim its own "jamming" laser back at the cop, and fire off another signal to confuse the device in the split-seconds necessary for that to work?
I'll admit that I MAY be wrong here, but I doubt any laser "jammers" actually work.
I have a lot of experience in this area. I own a Blue 8500 X50, hardwired above my rearview to an ignition controlled power source with an OEM switch for overriding. I am also a member on several radar dectector forums. I love it and find the multiple threat tracking invaluable when you're going by speed traps on urban highways which are often abutted by big box stores with motion sensing doors.
As has been pointed out to you, laser jammers are worthless.
The V1 vs 8500 debate is dead as of 2006! It was always a matter of which you thought was more useful, the forward and backward arrows of the V1 or the multiple threat detection and dissemination of the 8500.
If Laser is a big threat in your area, you should be slowing down instead of looking for detection because there is no reliable decection and certainly no reliable jamming. With the money you'll save that way, the new top dog of radar detectors is the BEL STi Driver which is NEW in 2006.
Beltronics and Escort are the same company. I have the Escort 8500 X50 which WAS the best radar dectector along side the Valentine 1, but the new Bel blows BOTH away in Ka and POP detection. Ka is getting really popular and few departments are buying new X or K units. The Bel has Ka dectection at better than 50% of the range of the valentine and the 8500, but costs about 150$ more if I remember correctly from authorities that are respected as neutral by my forums. The scary thing about Ka is that there is no such thing as a Ka false. If you hear Ka, there's an LEO nearby. Period. Ka detection is vital, so with your budget, I'd highly reccomend the Bel.
Valentine only deals from the factory
Bel and Escort only work through authorized resellers and they have to go by strict pricing rules. The only way to work down on a factory sealed Escort/Bel is to buy from Amazon with coupons or something.
Radar jamming is illegal per the FCC
Laser jamming or shifting, should it work, would be completley legal because you are dealing with light and not radio waves.
Check out this site and let me know if I can be of any more help.
http://radardetector.net/
The Bel is also the only one of the top 3 detectors to be fully Spectre 2 steathed.
Respected Bel review: http://www.laserveil.com/beltronics-sti-driver-radar-detector-preview/
As has been pointed out to you, laser jammers are worthless.
The V1 vs 8500 debate is dead as of 2006! It was always a matter of which you thought was more useful, the forward and backward arrows of the V1 or the multiple threat detection and dissemination of the 8500.
If Laser is a big threat in your area, you should be slowing down instead of looking for detection because there is no reliable decection and certainly no reliable jamming. With the money you'll save that way, the new top dog of radar detectors is the BEL STi Driver which is NEW in 2006.
Beltronics and Escort are the same company. I have the Escort 8500 X50 which WAS the best radar dectector along side the Valentine 1, but the new Bel blows BOTH away in Ka and POP detection. Ka is getting really popular and few departments are buying new X or K units. The Bel has Ka dectection at better than 50% of the range of the valentine and the 8500, but costs about 150$ more if I remember correctly from authorities that are respected as neutral by my forums. The scary thing about Ka is that there is no such thing as a Ka false. If you hear Ka, there's an LEO nearby. Period. Ka detection is vital, so with your budget, I'd highly reccomend the Bel.
Valentine only deals from the factory
Bel and Escort only work through authorized resellers and they have to go by strict pricing rules. The only way to work down on a factory sealed Escort/Bel is to buy from Amazon with coupons or something.
Radar jamming is illegal per the FCC
Laser jamming or shifting, should it work, would be completley legal because you are dealing with light and not radio waves.
Check out this site and let me know if I can be of any more help.
http://radardetector.net/
The Bel is also the only one of the top 3 detectors to be fully Spectre 2 steathed.
Respected Bel review: http://www.laserveil.com/beltronics-sti-driver-radar-detector-preview/
Have you used any laser jammers to conclude they are worthless? It looks like some people at radardetector.net are using the ZR3. Can't be too worthless.
Here's a quote from a member:
A real world story from radardetector.net forums:
Here's another story:
If other would like, they can read other stories here.
Here's a quote from a member:
A real world story from radardetector.net forums:
Yeah, they are pretty worthless. :roll:
Here's another story:
WOW, those jammers sure are worthless. :roll: Do you even read anything in the forums you belong to?
If other would like, they can read other stories here.
I don't want to hear stories...I want to hear a scientific explanation for how they work, if they do. Since I don't own or plan on buying any detectors/jammers in the near future, my curiosity is purely philosophical.
I don't have the exact science behind it but I believe you would VEIL any reflective surfaces like your headlights and license plate, and the jamming units are mounted close to your plates and lights. VEIL absobs the laser when hit but the jammer will send back a signal to confuse the gun and it will report nothing. That's how I'm assuming it works. However I really don't care HOW it works, just that it works. And from the real life stories, there is no denying it does in fact work.
If you want more detail into HOW laser jamming works, I suggest you do a google search and do your own homework.
If laser actually uses your license plate, it's because of all the tiny retroreflectors, not the size.
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