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[igor_kavinski]

Seems harsh but I know there are plenty of people in the world who raise an eyebrow the moment you mention AMD.

 

[Captante]

Not really anymore.... AMD is comparatively "mainstream" now at least in terms of CPU's.

 

[igor_kavinski]

Not really in every part of the world. I can't get my office to take a chance on AMD so far. God knows how many times I tried. Not even a single laptop, even when it offers more cores for less price. Maybe it's a good thing. Any problem would just lead to people pointing fingers at me, even if it has nothing to do with AMD.

 

[Captante]

Nothing wrong with using Intel either... if I were building a new gaming PC myself right now that's what I would do. (12700k most likely) Ironically AMD's mature chipset and CPU design means they're actually more stable then Intel 12th-gen for productivity/media use.

When I built my current 5800x/B550 based system last year it was literally the only game in town for Zen 3 and Intel 11th-gen was very underwhelming. It's been rock-solid.... been running almost 24/7 for over a year now.

I suspect you'll find that people who keep up with tech will be fine with AMD while those who do not will want to go with the name they recognize as "best" which for most will mean Intel.

 

[igor_kavinski]

I get the feeling in these forums that AMD users torture their CPUs more with PBO and overvolting than Intel ones. That either means AMD CPUs are more die-hard now or AMD users are sadists at heart

 

[snoopy7548]

I like AMD's integrated graphics which seem to outperform Intel's, so I buy their CPUs for my HTPCs, and I've never had a problem with the builds.

I haven't built a gaming PC in a long time (~2011), but I've always used Intel CPUs when going with a discrete GPU. Similarly, no issues.

 

[Captante]

I like AMD's integrated graphics which seem to outperform Intel's, so I buy their CPUs for my HTPCs, and I've never had a problem with the builds.

I haven't built a gaming PC in a long time (~2011), but I've always used Intel CPUs when going with a discrete GPU. Similarly, no issues.

Right now Intel is the faster gaming CPU but up until recently the reverse was true. (and if you already have a decent Zen 3 system there's very little motivation to upgrade right now)

That may flip-flop again when the AM5/Zen 4 cpu's are released in the (hopefully) near future. Competition = a beautiful thing!

Point being you can't really go too far wrong with either CPU although I wouldn't suggest building a NEW Zen 3 system right now since its about to be replaced.

 

[snoopy7548]

Right now Intel is the faster gaming CPU but up until recently the reverse was true. (and if you already have a decent Zen 3 system there's very little motivation to upgrade right now)

That may flip-flop again when the AM5/Zen 4 cpu's are released in the (hopefully) near future. Competition = a beautiful thing!

Point being you can't really go too far wrong with either CPU although I wouldn't suggest building a NEW Zen 3 system right now since its about to be replaced.

Yep. As of now if I build a new gaming PC, I'll be going with Intel.

I was planning to wait for Zen 4 for my next HTPC, but a 5600g for $135 was just too good to pass up.

 

[Captante]

Yep. As of now if I build a new gaming PC, I'll be going with Intel.

I was planning to wait for Zen 4 for my next HTPC, but a 5600g for $135 was just too good to pass up.

Like I said I'm in no hurry to upgrade my 5800x... .... unless of course AMD decides to release that rumored 5900X3D!

The 5600g APU is a solid chip for entry-level 1080p gaming and is a discreet GPU away from being pretty speedy running anything you want.

 

[igor_kavinski]

5900X3D 5900X3D 5900X3D!!!

(chanting three times works, sometimes)

 

[HoleInTheEarth]

Not really anymore.... AMD is comparatively "mainstream" now at least in terms of CPU's.

Not sure that's as true as we think it is. It's obvious they've gained some traction, but I think if you went to the general public and asked 100 people who AMD is, probably 80+ percent wouldn't have a clue. Of course, all of us on computer forums know about AMD because these are enthusiast web sites. Intel is a marketing machine and iconic brand.

I'm not in any rush to upgrade my 5000 series CPUs. I don't game a lot and 8 and 16 cores is more than enough, for now.

 

[igor_kavinski]

AMD doesn't roll off the tongue as easily as Intel. But Ryzen is a great name.

 

[Roger Wilco]

The 5600x is $175 on Amazon. Everyone and their mother should be buying that cpu.

 

[snoopy7548]

Not sure that's as true as we think it is. It's obvious they've gained some traction, but I think if you went to the general public and asked 100 people who AMD is, probably 80+ percent wouldn't have a clue. Of course, all of us on computer forums know about AMD because these are enthusiast web sites. Intel is a marketing machine and iconic brand.

I'm not in any rush to upgrade my 5000 series CPUs. I don't game a lot and 8 and 16 cores is more than enough, for now.

That's because AMD didn't have all those awesome commercials...

 

[Meghan54]

There was this one for AMD….

memorable…lol!
(But I did remember its existence…..hmmmmm)

 

[HoleInTheEarth]

That's because AMD didn't have all those awesome commercials...

Hard to market something when you cannot afford to.

 

[Captante]

It's obvious they've gained some traction, but I think if you went to the general public and asked 100 people who AMD is, probably 80+ percent wouldn't have a clue.

20% actually sounds about right and for AMD is a major IRL improvement!

Lets hope that AM5 & Zen 4 live up to expectations... we don't want to go back to Intel setting the pace with no/little competition or we'll get the 2023 (and on) version of a Skylake quad-core for the next 8 years.

 

[HoleInTheEarth]

20% actually sounds about right and for AMD is a major IRL improvement!

Lets hope that AM5 & Zen 4 live up to expectations... we don't want to go back to Intel setting the pace with no/little competition or we'll get the 2023 (and on) version of a Skylake quad-core for the next 8 years.

Yeah, that's why I mentioned they have gained some traction. It's just not as much as people thing in the grand scheme of things. We are looking at it from a different (enthusiast) angle. Agreed, we don't want a monopoly and competition is a good thing. Unfortunately, that also has people picking sides like it used to be with ATI and nVidia. They are all good processors and it's only good for consumers that they are pushing each other as far as the speed of progression and furthering the technology. It'll be interesting to see what other options, as far as ARM and such. come along in the next 10 years.