"**Error: No CD-ROM drivers found"

[apoppin]

1/19 update: i don't think you guys *can* figure it out
[either]
:roll:

just for kicks, i installed my SATA DVD Writer ... it is not recognized in BIOS or in Vista [although there are no error messages]
- but it works *fine* in XP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

WtF?


====================

No ... dang nabit ... *Still* not right

OK, loading optimized defaults ends the error messages [Device #1F ... Function #02 ... 06 Port ... no BIOS] but of course will not load the OS until i enable 'Onboard SATA/IDE control mode' leaving ACHI or RAID "disabled".

and now there are no error messages - instead it shows the PCIe to SATA BIOS is now installed ....

BUT i still get no CD-ROM in DOS and the error message: "**Error: No CD-ROM drivers found" even though i boot from the DVD; Vista still refuses to format or burn a disk
wth?


and changing to ACHI or RAID mode brings back the error message regarding Device #1F ... Function #02 ... 06 Port and no SATA BIOS installed
- huh?

Just for fun, i am going to try an install my SATA burner .... in the meantime, i would appreciate some insight.
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UPDATE: it appears a controller driver got uninstalled - i am guessing it was during a power failure when my UPS also failed.
--so it appears - to me - that i need to flash the BIOS to get it back - right?

reset the CMOS ... Flash the BIOS to the latest ... and reset DMI ?
--i just want to be sure

btw, i never used a flash drive to flash my BIOS .... all my floppies are used and old
- i need to format it ... FAT 16 or 32?


older posts below >>>>>>>>
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Evidently the problem is deeper ... at the DOS level and it is nothing a simple install can cure

I am using the Serial ATA AHC1 BIOS and evidently a controller is not loading

If i start Caldera DOS for example, i will get an error message: Driver not found 'generic' ... and ...
A:\NWCDEX.EXE requires a Driver name to be specified


There is no CD-ROM detected ... *Also* if i try to install my SATA burner, the setup will "search" for a long time before setting up - Vista will not load [this time] but XP will [and of course there is no DVD-Drive detected at all]


[this was the original message below:]
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How the heck would i lose my CD-ROM drivers?
[Even more importantly how do i get them back?]

My CD-ROM [or DVD-ReWriter or CD-ReWriter] no longer shows up in XP but it shows up fine in Vista. It also does not show up in BIOS or DOS - "**Error: IDE CD-ROM device driver not installed!!" although i can boot from a DVD and even install Vista [or XP] from the DVD.


i have my RAIDed HDs on SATA [no problems] and my DVD burner [master] and 120GB HD [slave] on IDE. The IDE HD is fine BUT the DVD burner [or any CD-ROM] does not show up in BIOS or in XP ... it does not matter what my Master/Slave/CS are set to. i can disconnect my HD and the CD-ROM is still not recognized. There are also some issues with burning DVDs in Vista although that may be unrelated.
--i also don't see anything in BIOS preventing the drivers from loading - or any settings that i changed.

Help please!

 

[robisbell]

sounds like the bios is corrupted, maybe even infected.

 

[apoppin]

Originally posted by: robisbell
sounds like the bios is corrupted, maybe even infected.

i doubt it's infected

--flash the BIOS to the latest?

Is there any other way to get the BIOS to recognize the CD-ROM from DOS?

Very strangely everything works in Vista - DVD burning is probably related to other issues; performance is good in both XP and Vista ... and the IDE HD on the same cable as the CR-ROM is OK.

 

[robisbell]

which is it, you stated "It also does not show up in BIOS or DOS - "**Error: IDE CD-ROM device driver not installed!!"" and now you say it's showing up in dos. Can you tell me how you are 100% sure the bios is not infected?

 

[apoppin]

Originally posted by: robisbell
which is it, you stated "It also does not show up in BIOS or DOS - "**Error: IDE CD-ROM device driver not installed!!"" and now you say it's showing up in dos. Can you tell me how you are 100% sure the bios is not infected?

no, i did not say it was showing up in DOS - it is not
-i was asking IF there was a way to enter DOS - or the BIOS - and reinstall the CD-ROM driver

and several antiVirus boot scans say it is not infected
i also did not say i am 100% sure
[99.9% sure]

 

[dclive]

Originally posted by: apoppin

How the heck would i lose my CD-ROM drivers?
[Even more importantly how do i get them back?]

My CD-ROM [or DVD-ReWriter or CD-ReWriter] no longer shows up in XP but it shows up fine in Vista. It also does not show up in BIOS or DOS - "**Error: IDE CD-ROM device driver not installed!!" although i can boot from a DVD and even install Vista [or XP] from the DVD.


i have my RAIDed HDs on SATA [no problems] and my DVD burner [master] and 120GB HD [slave] on IDE. The IDE HD is fine BUT the DVD burner [or any CD-ROM] does not show up in BIOS or in XP ... it does not matter what my Master/Slave/CS are set to. i can disconnect my HD and the CD-ROM is still not recognized. There are also some issues with burning DVDs in Vista although that may be unrelated.
--i also don't see anything in BIOS preventing the drivers from loading - or any settings that i changed.

Help please!

If it works in Vista but not XP you have a software problem, not a hardware problem.

Jump to my web page, read the bits about CD-DVD issues and filter drivers, and tell us what filter drivers you have in place in the section the www page talks about.

 

[apoppin]

Very nice troubleshooting guide, dclive! Thanks for replying!!
:thumbsup:

It also doesn't show up in BIOS or DOS ... e.g. when i boot from my Western Digital CD to partition the HD is where i got the error message. Also, if i boot into a pure DOS environment with a Win98 start-up disk (for example) the CD-ROM is not recognized.

tell us what filter drivers you have in place in the section the www page talks about

Now you want me to look into XP's registry ?
[why would it affect DOS before the OS even loads?]
... not Vista's right [i can do this after work]


[btw, installing a SATA DVD- or SATA CD-ROM will bypass this problem entirely, right?]

edited



2nd edit ... do you think it could have anything to do with the Witcher's DRM? After installing it is when i noticed that XP's CD-ROM drive was missing.

http://forums.anandtech.com/me...=2134515&enterthread=y

homercles337 reports his DVD/CD drives are now dead

 

[robisbell]

what antivirus scans your bios?

 

[dclive]

Post your filter drivers in XP.

 

[apoppin]

got it ... will do after i return from work ....

thanks for your interest !

i also doubt it was The Witcher's TAG drivers
-but you never know

i regularly use Avira Personal edition ... it has a boot records scan

 

[apoppin]

**********************fixed*****************

thank-you .... *everything* has returned to normal ... and my boot-up sequence with XP is even restored

:thumbsup:

i had forgotten the DOS environment, filter drivers and how these drivers are installed ...
i have been *damn spoiled* for the last 7 or 8 years with Win2K/XP - all this is pretty well hidden; even more so with Vista although it is solidly based on it


... now ... "curious ... how did these drivers get "lost" ?


a little UPDATE:

btw, i ordered a SATA DVD-Burner "just in case" ... it will be here tomorrow ... i *need* burning SW for Vista anyway and i comes with Nero7 ... as a "plus" ... i can put my IDE back-up drive solely on it's own cable - that'll speed it up from being a slave.

it was a good deal, btw

PHILIPS 2-Tone DVD - *SATA* - Burner Retail - $29.99 shipped from the 'Egg

 

[dclive]

What did you do to fix it?

 

[robisbell]

I'd not use Nero, I'd use CD Burner (it'll do DVD's).

http://www.cdburnerxp.se/home

 

[apoppin]

Originally posted by: dclive
What did you do to fix it?

i did a fresh install of XP

i *need* that partition for Vista 64 anyway ... and i just backed everything up and then installed XP - of course, it was the filter drivers
-thanks for those great links!

XP and Win2k now go to my IDE HD and i get my SATA burner tomorrow ... so all is well


but

What would have "lost" my drivers in the first place? This is a 'first' for me.


And there is *nothing* Wrong with Nero7 - as long as you don't install it all
--How well does CDBurnerXP work with Vista?
-it appears to ... i will check it out .. thanx

EDIT: my new drive isn't supported ... Philips SPD2513BD

 

[dclive]

I don't understand - how do you know it was your filter drivers if you just reinstalled XP? If it was your filter drivers, you could have fixed it in 2 minutes simply by removing the bad ones in the registry....no reinstall required.

In no case were drivers 'lost', as you wrote.

So, what really happened?

 

[apoppin]

Originally posted by: dclive
I don't understand - how do you know it was your filter drivers if you just reinstalled XP? If it was your filter drivers, you could have fixed it in 2 minutes simply by removing the bad ones in the registry....no reinstall required.

In no case were drivers 'lost', as you wrote.

So, what really happened?

actually i don't know ... for sure

the problem was that i needed to get into XP to fix it ... so i just took the easy way out since i don't really want XP on that partition (anyway)

Stay tuned ... there may be other problems
-or not

 

[apoppin]

Originally posted by: apoppin

Stay tuned ... there may be other problems
-or not

i was right

sadly


Evidently the problem is deeper ... at the DOS level/in BIOS and it is nothing a simple OS install can cure

I am using the Serial ATA AHC1 BIOS and evidently a controller is not loading ... even though Vista and XP now appear normal, there are issues with burning DVDs

If i start Caldera DOS for example, i will get an error message: Driver not found 'generic' ... and ...
A:\NWCDEX.EXE requires a Driver name to be specified


There is no CD-ROM detected - However, i CAN boot from a Vista or XP DVD ...
When i tried to install my SATA burner - even with nothing on the IDE channel at all; it will "search" for a long time before finally booting up - this time Vista will not load at all but XP will load and of course there is no DVD-Drive detected at all in the OS.


i will take all the help i can get ... and i want to know *why* this could happen

 

[dclive]

You must install the driver for the controller in question before it will work. Have you done that? If you switch from AHCI mode to normal mode does everything work?

 

[apoppin]

no ... and no

evidently the error message is "ACHI BIOS not found" ... so it would be the controller Device driver, right?
So, now how do i install the drivers?


in BIOS i changed the onboard SATA/IDE controller modes with no difference - CD-ROM unrecognized.

However, when i disabled the SATA RAID/ACHI mode i got the warning in red and changed it back and Vista had to reinstall the AACHI 1.0 Serial ATA controller and ATA channels 0-5


this is a 'first' for me ... how do i install my controller drivers?

edit: i just googled "install ACHI BIOS controller drivers" and am finding lots of interesting info ... evidently i am not alone in issues with the Gigabyte MBs
i *thought* i already installed all the drivers for XP and Vista
... i am still confused ... and will keep reading

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A...t_Controller_Interface

* Enabling AHCI in a system BIOS will cause a 0x7B Blue Screen of Death STOP error (INACCESSIBLE_BOOT_DEVICE) on installations of Windows XP where AHCI/RAID drivers for that system's chipset are not installed. Switching to AHCI mode requires installing new drivers before changing the BIOS settings.
* At least for some chipsets and motherboards (for example, Intel ICH9 on Gigabyte GA-G33M-S2H) no Windows XP drivers are available from either the manufacturer or Intel. Usually this means AHCI can not be used on the system unless the OS is upgraded to Windows Vista. In the case of ICH9, an unsupported method to enable AHCI on ICH9 is available.
* When attempting to install Microsoft Windows XP or a previous version on an AHCI-enabled system will cause the setup to fail with the error message "set up could not detect hard disk drive...". This problem can only be corrected by either using a floppy disk with the appropriate drivers, by slipstreaming the appropriate drivers into the Windows XP installation CD or by turning on IDE emulation in the BIOS settings if available.
* Enabling AHCI in a system BIOS with Windows Vista already installed will result in a BSoD if SATA has been running in IDE mode during Vista's installation. Before enabling AHCI in the BIOS, users must first follow the instructions found at Microsoft Knowledge Base article 922976.
* Enabling AHCI in a system BIOS on installations of Windows XP or Windows Vista, will cause SATA Optical drives to disappear. A Hotfix for Windows Vista is available under the title: "SATA optical drives are not available after you start a Windows Vista-based computer."[3]

Maybe you can shorten my search ... please

 

[robisbell]

the achi is parts of either the chipset drivers or ide drivers, depends on how GB packages them.

 

[apoppin]

of course, but i DID install all the drivers off the MB disk and off the floppy [as needed]

i guess *something* - like a power failure - screwed something up ... and without advice, i'd *guess* i need to reset my CMOS, flash my BIOS [to the latest anyway], and reset my DMI data
- and hope it fixes it


---right or wrong?

 

[apoppin]

so did i guess right?


reset the CMOS ... Flash the BIOS to the latest ... and reset DMI ?
--i want to be sure

btw, i never used a flash drive to flash my BIOS .... all my floppies are used and old
- i need to format it ... FAT 16 or 32?

 

[nullpointerus]

Originally posted by: apoppin
no ... and no

evidently the error message is "ACHI BIOS not found" ... so it would be the controller Device driver, right?
So, now how do i install the drivers?

What gives you that error: the BIOS before the Windows boot loader, or Vista, or XP?

in BIOS i changed the onboard SATA/IDE controller modes with no difference - CD-ROM unrecognized.

However, when i disabled the SATA RAID/ACHI mode i got the warning in red and changed it back and Vista had to reinstall the AACHI 1.0 Serial ATA controller and ATA channels 0-5

My board defaults to using neither RAID nor AHCI.

I actually had to enable AHCI myself...

this is a 'first' for me ... how do i install my controller drivers?

Just to be perfectly clear:

- Drivers are at the OS level, not the BIOS level.
- Windows or DOS are both operating systems.
- That is to say, Windows has not been "built on" DOS for a long time now...

edit: i just googled "install ACHI BIOS controller drivers" and am finding lots of interesting info ... evidently i am not alone in issues with the Gigabyte MBs
i *thought* i already installed all the drivers for XP and Vista
... i am still confused ... and will keep reading

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A...t_Controller_Interface

* Enabling AHCI in a system BIOS will cause a 0x7B Blue Screen of Death STOP error (INACCESSIBLE_BOOT_DEVICE) on installations of Windows XP where AHCI/RAID drivers for that system's chipset are not installed. Switching to AHCI mode requires installing new drivers before changing the BIOS settings.
* At least for some chipsets and motherboards (for example, Intel ICH9 on Gigabyte GA-G33M-S2H) no Windows XP drivers are available from either the manufacturer or Intel. Usually this means AHCI can not be used on the system unless the OS is upgraded to Windows Vista. In the case of ICH9, an unsupported method to enable AHCI on ICH9 is available.
* When attempting to install Microsoft Windows XP or a previous version on an AHCI-enabled system will cause the setup to fail with the error message "set up could not detect hard disk drive...". This problem can only be corrected by either using a floppy disk with the appropriate drivers, by slipstreaming the appropriate drivers into the Windows XP installation CD or by turning on IDE emulation in the BIOS settings if available.
* Enabling AHCI in a system BIOS with Windows Vista already installed will result in a BSoD if SATA has been running in IDE mode during Vista's installation. Before enabling AHCI in the BIOS, users must first follow the instructions found at Microsoft Knowledge Base article 922976.
* Enabling AHCI in a system BIOS on installations of Windows XP or Windows Vista, will cause SATA Optical drives to disappear. A Hotfix for Windows Vista is available under the title: "SATA optical drives are not available after you start a Windows Vista-based computer."[3]

Maybe you can shorten my search ... please

Now this is REALLY interesting: I think I may have replaced my DVD drive earlier this year for the very same reason (XP would not work). It's been a while.

From what your research says, Vista has AHCI support for your system, but XP does not. Did you recently flash your BIOS? What likely happened is that your old BIOS had the SATA controller set to compatibility mode whereas the new one (or you) set the SATA controller to AHCI mode. So Vista could see the drive, but XP could not.

Have you tried resetting the SATA controller to compatibility mode and reinstalling XP?
What is the result?

 

[apoppin]

Originally posted by: nullpointerus

Originally posted by: apoppin
no ... and no

evidently the error message is "ACHI BIOS not found" ... so it would be the controller Device driver, right?
So, now how do i install the drivers?

What gives you that error: the BIOS before the Windows boot loader, or Vista, or XP?

in BIOS i changed the onboard SATA/IDE controller modes with no difference - CD-ROM unrecognized.

However, when i disabled the SATA RAID/ACHI mode i got the warning in red and changed it back and Vista had to reinstall the AACHI 1.0 Serial ATA controller and ATA channels 0-5

My board defaults to using neither RAID nor AHCI.

I actually had to enable AHCI myself...

this is a 'first' for me ... how do i install my controller drivers?

Just to be perfectly clear:

- Drivers are at the OS level, not the BIOS level.
- Windows or DOS are both operating systems.
- That is to say, Windows has not been "built on" DOS for a long time now...

edit: i just googled "install ACHI BIOS controller drivers" and am finding lots of interesting info ... evidently i am not alone in issues with the Gigabyte MBs
i *thought* i already installed all the drivers for XP and Vista
... i am still confused ... and will keep reading

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A...t_Controller_Interface

* Enabling AHCI in a system BIOS will cause a 0x7B Blue Screen of Death STOP error (INACCESSIBLE_BOOT_DEVICE) on installations of Windows XP where AHCI/RAID drivers for that system's chipset are not installed. Switching to AHCI mode requires installing new drivers before changing the BIOS settings.
* At least for some chipsets and motherboards (for example, Intel ICH9 on Gigabyte GA-G33M-S2H) no Windows XP drivers are available from either the manufacturer or Intel. Usually this means AHCI can not be used on the system unless the OS is upgraded to Windows Vista. In the case of ICH9, an unsupported method to enable AHCI on ICH9 is available.
* When attempting to install Microsoft Windows XP or a previous version on an AHCI-enabled system will cause the setup to fail with the error message "set up could not detect hard disk drive...". This problem can only be corrected by either using a floppy disk with the appropriate drivers, by slipstreaming the appropriate drivers into the Windows XP installation CD or by turning on IDE emulation in the BIOS settings if available.
* Enabling AHCI in a system BIOS with Windows Vista already installed will result in a BSoD if SATA has been running in IDE mode during Vista's installation. Before enabling AHCI in the BIOS, users must first follow the instructions found at Microsoft Knowledge Base article 922976.
* Enabling AHCI in a system BIOS on installations of Windows XP or Windows Vista, will cause SATA Optical drives to disappear. A Hotfix for Windows Vista is available under the title: "SATA optical drives are not available after you start a Windows Vista-based computer."[3]

Maybe you can shorten my search ... please

Now this is REALLY interesting: I think I may have replaced my DVD drive earlier this year for the very same reason (XP would not work). It's been a while.

From what your research says, Vista has AHCI support for your system, but XP does not. Did you recently flash your BIOS? What likely happened is that your old BIOS had the SATA controller set to compatibility mode whereas the new one (or you) set the SATA controller to AHCI mode. So Vista could see the drive, but XP could not.

Have you tried resetting the SATA controller to compatibility mode and reinstalling XP?
What is the result?

Well, a complete fresh reinstall of XP solved the CD-ROM not showing up problem ... but still the problem persists in the BIOS ... where there is no ACHI BIOS and no controller for the device ...

installing XP or Vista won't solve that problem ... i am guessing the only way to reinstall a controller/ACHI BIOS is to flash mine to the latest ... and unless someone thinks that is a bad idea, i am going to do it now

 

[apoppin]

*SOLVED*
well, at least there are no more error messages about 'no ACHI BIOS found" or 'missing controller' ... although the real test will be to install my SATA burner

and it way WAAAAY more simple then BIOS flashing ... i feel stupid
... although it IS an advantage to have this month's BIOS for the 45 nm CPUs which i AM upgrading to.

"LOAD OPTIMIZED DEFAULTS?"
--*Yes!*

then muck about in the bios and reset everything
--damn easy

but why did it take me SO damn long to figure it out?



finally ... no more need for floppys ... Flash disks have all the advantages
:thumbsup: