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Eric Holder going after employer who screened for illegals during the hiring process.

DucatiMonster696

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Wow.....I'm truly left speechless by the bullshit that has happened and is happening under Eric Holder in the Justice department.


http://www.examiner.com/article/doj-sues-las-vegas-casino-for-screening-non-citizen-workers

DOJ sues Las Vegas casino for screening non-citizen workers

While proponents of immigration enforcement have been told that the federal government monitors the hiring of illegal aliens by the private sector, including adherence to the federal employment verification (I-9) program, Attorney General Eric Holder's Justice Department appears to have made a decision to penalize organizations that zealously comply.

For example, on Thursday the Justice Department announced that it filed a civil lawsuit against the Tuscany Hotel and Casino in Las Vegas, Nevada, accusing the company of engaging in "a pattern or practice of discrimination in the employment eligibility verification and re-verification process."

The Immigration and Nationality Act (INA) requires employers to treat all authorized workers equally during the hiring, firing and employment eligibility verification process, regardless of their national origin or citizenship status. However, it is still a criminal offense to avoid the I-9 verification process in the hiring of job applicants.

The DOJ complaint alleges that Tuscany treated non-citizens differently from U.S. citizens during the employment eligibility verification and re-verification process by requesting non-citizen employees to provide more or different documents or information than required during the initial employment eligibility verification process, and demanded specific documents during the re-verification process.

The complaint further alleges that Tuscany subjected lawful permanent residents to unnecessary re- verification based on their citizenship status after requesting and entering into the payroll system the expiration date of their Permanent Resident Cards (green cards) for purposes of re verification.

Some believe this lawsuit is nothing more than payback by the Obama DOJ since earlier this year the Tuscany Hotel and Casino booked a special conference by a law enforcement group that was not favorable to the Obama administration. The Constitutional Sheriffs and Peace Officers Association (CSPOA) has stated their goal is to "take back America from the unlawful incursions and overreach of state and federal governments and their agencies."

Speakers at the event included Sheriff Joe Arpaio, Sheriff Bradley D. Rodgers, Sheriff Richard Mack, and Larry Pratt, founder and executive director of Gun Owners of America, none of whom are popular in the Obama White House or DOJ.

According to a member of Immigration and Customs Enforcement, the casino had an interest in verifying immigration status as part of its loss prevention program and may have exhibited over zealousness in its internal security program, but a casino environment requires more security than most workplaces due to the enormous amounts of cash involved in that industry.

The ICE agent, who requested anonymity, stated that Holder and his illegal alien-friendly department is more interested in protecting illegal aliens than "in protecting Americans from the crimes perpetrated including workplace crimes."

“Employers must not treat authorized workers differently during the employment eligibility verification process based on their citizenship status or national origin,” said Thomas E. Perez, Assistant Attorney General for the Civil Rights Division. “The department vigorously enforces the anti-discrimination provisions of the INA so that authorized workers are treated fairly in the work place.”

According to several sources, Perez is a zealot for protecting illegal aliens as proven by his record of pursuing cases against entities that attempt to control or curtail illegal immigration.

Perez's complaint, which seeks monetary and injunctive relief, was filed before the Office of the Chief Administrative Hearing Officer (OCAHO) of the Department of Justice and served on the company on May 29, 2012.

The Office of Special Counsel for Immigration-Related Unfair Employment Practices (OSC) is responsible for enforcing the anti-discrimination provision of the INA, which protects work authorized individuals from employment discrimination on the basis of citizenship status or national origin, including discrimination in hiring, firing and the employment eligibility verification (Form I-9) process.
 
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tweaker2

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So, let me get this right...Holder is caught "holding the bag" while Big Agra and all those other big businesses that exploit illegals and comprise a big chunk of the Repub conservative base is whooping it up with glee that Holder is doing exactly what they want, but you only want Holder to be shown in a negative light?

Not saying that Holder is right or wrong, but these big businesses that are breaking the law by hiring illegals are doing a far worse thing than what Holder is (or is not) doing to uphold said immigration laws.
 

jackstar7

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Yeah, I mean what a jerk for enforcing the laws that he passed... I mean that's how it works, right?
 

Hayabusa Rider

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So, let me get this right...Holder is caught "holding the bag" while Big Agra and all those other big businesses that exploit illegals and comprise a big chunk of the Repub conservative base is whooping it up with glee that Holder is doing exactly what they want, but you only want Holder to be shown in a negative light?

Not saying that Holder is right or wrong, but these big businesses that are breaking the law by hiring illegals are doing a far worse thing than what Holder is (or is not) doing to uphold said immigration laws.
So let me get this right... This company is trying to comply and they are doing such a great job that Holder wants to screw them. This isn't about "Big Agra" it's about a company trying to comply. Of course if the don't then Holder can get them anyway. People need to guess what kind of mood he's in? That's bullshit.
 

Hayabusa Rider

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Yeah, I mean what a jerk for enforcing the laws that he passed... I mean that's how it works, right?
How it works is that comply and be punished. Don't and be punished. What kind of agenda does the administration have today?
 

nehalem256

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How it works is that comply and be punished. Don't and be punished. What kind of agenda does the administration have today?
Remember liberals are the ones that think it is reasonable to force private businesses to enforce immigration laws, but actual law enforcement shouldnt :rolleyes:
 

epidemis

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Seems like the Tuscany hoteks are being politically discriminated against
 

fskimospy

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Did anyone actually read the article, insane fever dream that it is? The complaint is that legal workers were being discriminated against due to their nation of origin, not that the casino was checking to see if they were legal or not.

I love how the people there think that the DOJ is attacking a casino for hosting a convention with speakers it didn't like. On what evidence is this based? Absolutely nothing of course, but hey I'm sure that conservatives are just continuing to be victimized. That's what you guys want more than anything, right? Perpetual victimhood.
 

Hayabusa Rider

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Did anyone actually read the article, insane fever dream that it is? The complaint is that legal workers were being discriminated against due to their nation of origin, not that the casino was checking to see if they were legal or not.

I love how the people there think that the DOJ is attacking a casino for hosting a convention with speakers it didn't like. On what evidence is this based? Absolutely nothing of course, but hey I'm sure that conservatives are just continuing to be victimized. That's what you guys want more than anything, right? Perpetual victimhood.
So how many legal workers were fired because they weren't citizens? Perpetual victimhood, but that would be those who used best faith common sense.
 

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Some believe this lawsuit is nothing more than payback by the Obama DOJ since earlier this year the Tuscany Hotel and Casino booked a special conference by a law enforcement group that was not favorable to the Obama administration. The Constitutional Sheriffs and Peace Officers Association (CSPOA) has stated their goal is to "take back America from the unlawful incursions and overreach of state and federal governments and their agencies."
http://www.examiner.com/article/doj-sues-las-vegas-casino-for-screening-non-citizen-workers
Talk about right wing paranoia.
 

fskimospy

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So how many legal workers were fired because they weren't citizens? Perpetual victimhood, but that would be those who used best faith common sense.
It is irrelevant how many legal workers were fired, the law clearly states that all authorized workers must be treated equally. If you are making some legal workers do more verification than others based on their national origin instead of their qualifications, it's illegal.

Definitely common sense not to do this, but I'm sure that the DoJ is actually just marking down every convention center for revenge when someone uses it to say something mean about Obama. That's truly the most likely reason.
 

Hayabusa Rider

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It is irrelevant how many legal workers were fired, the law clearly states that all authorized workers must be treated equally. If you are making some legal workers do more verification than others based on their national origin instead of their qualifications, it's illegal.

Definitely common sense not to do this, but I'm sure that the DoJ is actually just marking down every convention center for revenge when someone uses it to say something mean about Obama. That's truly the most likely reason.
Yeah and the DOJ just had to pursue this with a lawsuit because that's how it handles everything. It's a political agenda enforcement scheme. They could have said "hey stop that or else" and yes they could have because they haven't the obligation to engage in legal intimidation with both barrels loosed. It will play well at election time so it has that going for it.
 

Wreckem

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Yeah and the DOJ just had to pursue this with a lawsuit because that's how it handles everything. It's a political agenda enforcement scheme. They could have said "hey stop that or else" and yes they could have because they haven't the obligation to engage in legal intimidation with both barrels loosed. It will play well at election time so it has that going for it.
So we should use the stop that or else to regulate people and biz?

Lets tell a rapist/murder to stop it or else.

When company break federal laws/regulations they should be hammered hard. If they aren't hammered hard they will continue to break said federal laws/regulations.
 

Jhhnn

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Yeah and the DOJ just had to pursue this with a lawsuit because that's how it handles everything. It's a political agenda enforcement scheme. They could have said "hey stop that or else" and yes they could have because they haven't the obligation to engage in legal intimidation with both barrels loosed. It will play well at election time so it has that going for it.

"Hey stop that or else" doesn't provide redress for those harmed, & it may well have been tried, anyway, for all we know.

It's not like the casino can't afford lawyers & HR specialists, is it? They're not Mom & Pop- they knew or should have known beforehand how to deal with the immigration status of their employees.
 

fskimospy

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Yeah and the DOJ just had to pursue this with a lawsuit because that's how it handles everything. It's a political agenda enforcement scheme. They could have said "hey stop that or else" and yes they could have because they haven't the obligation to engage in legal intimidation with both barrels loosed. It will play well at election time so it has that going for it.
What are you basing this on? My guess? Absolutely nothing. How was the situation brought to the DoJ's attention? How do you know what was done beforehand and afterwards? Once again my guess is that you don't have the first clue. Either way it's frankly bizarre to think that the DoJ would take complaints of racial and ethnic discrimination by a major corporate employer and just say "hey now kids, stop being so mean!" as an enforcement mechanism.

You bought the rights perpetual victimhood framing here, but you don't have to. There is simply no evidence to lead you to that conclusion, so leave them to wallow in their own insanity and dreams of persecution.
 

Jhhnn

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What are you basing this on? My guess? Absolutely nothing. How was the situation brought to the DoJ's attention? How do you know what was done beforehand and afterwards? Once again my guess is that you don't have the first clue. Either way it's frankly bizarre to think that the DoJ would take complaints of racial and ethnic discrimination by a major corporate employer and just say "hey now kids, stop being so mean!" as an enforcement mechanism.

You bought the rights perpetual victimhood framing here, but you don't have to. There is simply no evidence to lead you to that conclusion, so leave them to wallow in their own insanity and dreams of persecution.
I see it as projection of their own headsets & methods onto others, remembering how they behaved when they held the Executive & Legislative branches during the Bush years...
 

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