Eric Cantor to address the rich-poor gap in speech at University of Pennsylvania Rea

Ausm

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When's the last time you ever seen a Republican address the income disparity in the US????

Could this be a possible capitulation from the Right showing how out of touch they are with mainstream America?

If you listen to the Rabid Right Wingers on this forum they act like it doesn't exist or it's best thing since sliced bread/just live with it.

I wonder if Occupy Wall Street has anything to do with this? ;)

Eric Cantor to address the rich-poor gap in speech at University of Pennsylvania

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This is what he's paid to do, spin the issues to fool the public.

They'll take the issue of the harm they've caused, and turn it into an attack on Dems, because they have to to keep getting votes - they can't defend their record.

Here's an example of how they'll attack Obama with the issue:

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Pretty convincing. Not a word about how their policies make these things worse, how they're a far worse choice in 2012.
 

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So Cain or Romney are elected in 2012. We get 9-9-9 or whatever...
Unemployment shoots up to 35%. Healthcare cost shoots up 400%.
Taxpayers bailout the banks another one, two or three times.
401K's.... Oh... I remember those. I use to have one. Even had money in it once.
Congress gives more tax relief to the top 1%.

How do you imagine the republicans president spin that?
Blame the Obama years?
U betcha ...
 

HomerJS

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Eric Cantor has gone from that mob is out of control to "I fell your pain" in a few weeks.

Republicans are worried about this one
 

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If you listen to the Rabid Right Wingers on this forum they act like it doesn't exist or it's best thing since sliced bread/just live with it.

Nope.

If you listen to the Rebid Left Wingers on this forum they act like income redistribution is the key to solving all of life's problems.

I think taxes should be raised, but I'm not a dumbass to believe we will recreate the prosperity of the 1990's just by adjusting tax levels, which is the claim many left-wingers continually try to make.
 

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Nope.

If you listen to the Rebid Left Wingers on this forum they act like income redistribution is the key to solving all of life's problems.

I think taxes should be raised, but I'm not a dumbass to believe we will recreate the prosperity of the 1990's just by adjusting tax levels, which is the claim many left-wingers continually try to make.

This Liberal doesn't think that either it's going to take substantial changes to the current laws and regulations in place to help tip the scales back to the PEONS in Society who bring nothing to the table except living off the 1% good graces. Oh I forgot to mention getting the fawk out of the money pit from hell AKA Wars.
 
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This Liberal doesn't think that either it's going to take substantial changes to the current laws and regulations in place to help tip the scales back to the PEONS in Society who bring nothing to the table except living off the 1% good graces. Oh I forgot to mention getting the fawk out of the money pit from hell AKA Wars.

Most liberals don't think that either, but that is still the claim that is often made in arguments. Curious, what was your purpose of this thread? Your only point is that the income distribution gap is a problem. You don't say why you think it is, what you think should be done about it, etc. All you wanted to do in the thread is bash "the rabid right wingers on this forum".


Here's how I see the two sides generally break down:

"The lefties" want to see the government through taxes and labor laws force the giving of money from "the rich" to "the poor".

"The righties" want to see the government through taxes and regulations create a fairer playing field so "the poor" can compete and create their own economic opportunities along side "the rich".

For example, I believe we need a national sales tax. Even though it is taking rights away from states, no sales tax across the internet is too huge a disadvantage to local businesses. And yes, regulations and liability and lawsuits, while many cheer them on for evil nasty shit-corporations, these same things KILL small businesses (in effect aiding the very corporations "they" want knocked down). It is very prohibitive for anyone to create a start-up.

And the massive debt all levels of government is racking up to "stimulate" the economy, the governments have to come up with money somewhere, and they have in large part been doing anything and everything they can to pick away at businesses any way they can force money out of them. It's gotta be stopped. Too many license and permit regulations that are solely for the purpose of revenue generation.
 
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He's going to address the rich-poor gap at Wharton, whose graduates are hard at work creating it.
 

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Eric Cantor pushed for Medicare Part D. He is also liberal for voting for all of the wars and their funding. He's a pro-deficit spending neocon who could've balanced the budget, but he chose not to.

He also voted for some of the bailout (at least 1 of the 8 parts) and said that he though parts of Obamacare were good. If I ever move to his district, I'll run against his ass as an Antifederalist and teach the Kochtopus Tea Party a lesson that will be very hard for them. I won't win, but I'll get enough of the vote to hand the election to the Democrat.
 

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Most liberals don't think that either, but that is still the claim that is often made in arguments. Curious, what was your purpose of this thread? Your only point is that the income distribution gap is a problem. You don't say why you think it is, what you think should be done about it, etc. All you wanted to do in the thread is bash "the rabid right wingers on this forum".


Here's how I see the two sides generally break down:

"The lefties" want to see the government through taxes and labor laws force the giving of money from "the rich" to "the poor".

"The righties" want to see the government through taxes and regulations create a fairer playing field so "the poor" can compete and create their own economic opportunities along side "the rich".

For example, I believe we need a national sales tax. Even though it is taking rights away from states, no sales tax across the internet is too huge a disadvantage to local businesses. And yes, regulations and liability and lawsuits, while many cheer them on for evil nasty shit-corporations, these same things KILL small businesses (in effect aiding the very corporations "they" want knocked down). It is very prohibitive for anyone to create a start-up.

And the massive debt all levels of government is racking up to "stimulate" the economy, the governments have to come up with money somewhere, and they have in large part been doing anything and everything they can to pick away at businesses any way they can force money out of them. It's gotta be stopped. Too many license and permit regulations that are solely for the purpose of revenue generation.

The purpose of this thread is to illustrate the fact this is the first time I have seen a Republican openly acknowledge the income disparity in the country which I thought was a "world was going to stop rotating" moment.

Oh the massive debt levels you are referring to is a totally different issue which has been covered in numerous threads on this forum.

I understand you don't agree with me the next thing to is for you to move on;)
 

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Eric Cantor pushed for Medicare Part D. He is also liberal for voting for all of the wars and their funding. He's a pro-deficit spending neocon who could've balanced the budget, but he chose not to.

He also voted for some of the bailout (at least 1 of the 8 parts) and said that he though parts of Obamacare were good. If I ever move to his district, I'll run against his ass as an Antifederalist and teach the Kochtopus Tea Party a lesson that will be very hard for them. I won't win, but I'll get enough of the vote to hand the election to the Democrat.

Bush's sloppy wet kiss to big pharma and a culprit to our country's massive debt?
 

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Nope.

If you listen to the Rebid Left Wingers on this forum they act like income redistribution is the key to solving all of life's problems.

I think taxes should be raised, but I'm not a dumbass to believe we will recreate the prosperity of the 1990's just by adjusting tax levels, which is the claim many left-wingers continually try to make.


A majority of Americans - on both the left and the right - realize that increasing taxes on the better-off PLUS reducing government spending are both necessary changes for the long-term economic health of America. But if you look at what's been happening in Washington, it's abundantly clear that both Obama and the Democrats in Congress are willing to pass such "balanced" legislation, though they skew that balance too much toward tax increases and not enough toward spending reductions. Republicans, on the other hand, insist on only budget cuts, heavily skewed toward reuductions in entitlements - they're adamantly opposed to any tax increases and strongly against cuts in defense spending.

So who is more in step with the American public?
 
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Let me guess... they way to close the gap is "smaller" government via lower taxes on the "job creators", busting up the unions and cutting social programs.
 

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Let me guess... they way to close the gap is "smaller" government via lower taxes on the "job creators", busting up the unions and cutting social programs.

You must have a direct line to RNC headquarters, but you left out those pesky regulations.
 

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When's the last time you ever seen a Republican address the income disparity in the US????

Could this be a possible capitulation from the Right showing how out of touch they are with mainstream America?

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There isn't going to be any "capitulation." The right has one simple motto to explain all of society's ills: government is the root of ALL problems. That should give you a preview of his speech. In fact, you need not listen to any more GOP speeches because that simple formulation essentially predicts them all.
 

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There isn't going to be any "capitulation." The right has one simple motto to explain all of society's ills: government is the root of ALL problems. That should give you a preview of his speech. In fact, you need not listen to any more GOP speeches because that simple formulation essentially predicts them all.

The GOP is not only morally bankrupt they also are clueless on how to fix the economy due to pounding the same tired talking points over and over again. On don't forget that they have yet to produce any jobs bill in the house but have plenty of time to do Social Engineering.
 

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The GOP is not only morally bankrupt they also are clueless on how to fix the economy due to pounding the same tired talking points over and over again. On don't forget that they have yet to produce any jobs bill in the house but have plenty of time to do Social Engineering.

Cantor will undoubtedly decry class warfare, tell us that it's time for us all to pull together, yada, yada, yada. Well, Except it's all Obama's fault, of course, and that the only reason the sacred free market hasn't wrought a miracle is because govt is in the way of the cuts, cuts, cuts of mind blowing expansionary austerity that will save us all from teh ebil soshulism & decay. Why, an end to corporate and investment income taxation will make us right as rain!

All trickledown, all the time, with homage to Saint Ronnie, of course.