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Epox, I love you *smoooch* ... DFI Crashparty - BUH BYE!

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Ok i have issued a retraction to this thread... It was a very complicated troubleshooting issue and it would have been nice to have SOME support from DFI to help figure it out. But in the end it was actually not the mobo's fault.

Retraction.
 
Good to hear. 🙂
Never have understood why that board is so popular. It has been full of problems sine it's initial release, and still has way too many problems. Yo would think 9 months would be enough time to work the bugs out. Usually only takes 2-3 months for most MB manufacturers.
 
Mine booted just fine.



...And then proceded to slowly kill two HDDs over two months before I figured out what was going on. :|

Next pay day I'm getting the Asus A8N32-SLI Deluxe.
 
Yep, I've been telling people that this is the best nforce 4 ultra motherboard out there. The reason I chose it was because of the Anandtech review, its great performance and because of the wide range of compatility. It is compatible with almost all kinds of memories and power supplies where other boards are not. I love mine so far. Epox has won my heart!
 
heh my brother is struggling with it atm - it hangs in bios if he doesn't go into it previously and click save changes - really strange. He's had a number of other problems (namely BSODs) although those seem to be sorted now

He's using 2 x 1Gb Crucial Ballistix.

I guess if the crap goes on for much longer I'll recommend the Asus MVP to him based on the ATI chipset which looks good to me and unlike most nforce 4 platforms probably more stable/less finicky
 
I have always had very good luck with Epox boards,very easy to set up and good value for money.

Stability is always solid with their boards.

🙂
 
After my DFI experience I have learned the value of stability. Dont get me wrong this board DOES have its quirks. For instance the position of the PCI-E slot makes no sense at all. You can NOT use the first PCI slot because it is too close to it and would block off your video card fan completely. My second PCI slot does not work at all, leaving only one useable PCI slot on the board....that kinda blows. BUT IT RUNS! And right now thats the most important thing for me. The layout on the Lanparty is much better but a lot of good it does you if you cant get it to run.
 
My second PCI slot does not work at all,
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Mine is working fine with my Audigy 4 soundcard, you probably just got a dead PCI slot.

Ironically my previous motherboard which I still use as my backup PC is a DFI board(nforce 2 ultra) and that too has been very solid on stability.
 
meh, i'm 6-0 with dfi nf4's. 6 boards, all flawless installs and all running fine.

OP yours definitely sounds like it was just a bad board. glad you got something that works anyway 🙂
 
Originally posted by: Mem
I have always had very good luck with Epox boards,very easy to set up and good value for money.

Stability is always solid with their boards.

🙂
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I've had bad luck with Epox boards...I've bought 2 (almost a year apart - back in the day of Socket A), and they both developed issues with bursting/bulging capacitors. 🙁
 
've had bad luck with Epox boards...I've bought 2 (almost a year apart - back in the day of Socket A), and they both developed issues with bursting/bulging capacitors
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All brands were effected by leaking caps few years back,was down to a capacitor formula being stolen and used to make capacitors that was incomplete,not Epox's fault.
 
Originally posted by: Mem
've had bad luck with Epox boards...I've bought 2 (almost a year apart - back in the day of Socket A), and they both developed issues with bursting/bulging capacitors
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All brands were effected by leaking caps few years back,was down to a capacitor formula being stolen and used to make capacitors that was incomplete,not Epox's fault.
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That's true. The Class-action lawsuits are still going around from that fiasco. If I recall MSI is on the chopping block at the moment.
 
does the epox ultra support cool'n'quiet? it's not listed in the spec.

I'm down to choosing b/t this one, the abit an8 ultra (passive cooling) and asrock sataII (ali chipset, econo board w/ no firewire or gigabit ether).

how is the noise on the chipset fan? if I have to replace the fan with a zalman, maybe I should just spring for the abit.

thanks
 
It's too bad you had all this trouble with the DFI board. Mine has been running OC'd with 5v mem line enabled, and I've had absolutely no stability issues. It has some quirks like c'n'q not working, but I dont need it anyways. I also picked one up for my friend, who's using corsair xms mem, and he has no issues either.
 
I've had an 8RDA and 8RDA+ that were both nice boards (well, sound was dead on 8RDA but I got it as a refurb :roll: ). Currently have a 9NDAI or something - forgot which, but the lowest end Nforce3. Working fine and overclocked in the machine I'm typing this message on. I have no problem with buying Epox.

I don't know why people still play the love/hate game with hardware - if you work with enough hardware you'll find that lots of hardware can be quirky and most have some kind of failure rate - doesn't matter what brand. Sure, there can be widespread failures like the IBM Deathstars, but for every person saying "oh don't buy WD because they're crap and I've had nothing but failures while all my Maxtors are fine" is another person saying "oh don't buy Maxtor because they're crap and I've had nothing but failures while all my WD are fine."
 
Originally posted by: pctwo
does the epox ultra support cool'n'quiet? it's not listed in the spec.

I'm down to choosing b/t this one, the abit an8 ultra (passive cooling) and asrock sataII (ali chipset, econo board w/ no firewire or gigabit ether).

how is the noise on the chipset fan? if I have to replace the fan with a zalman, maybe I should just spring for the abit.

thanks
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Wow, I'm pretty much in the same predicament. I'd like to get the epox motherboard but it is not offered in a bundle deal @ monarch computers.
 
My Ultra-D gave me some problems in the beginning (it really doesn't like Corsair Value Select) and I think it killed a stick of RAM (either that or the stick was bad to begin with), but once I got that RAM replaced it ran like a charm. But I don't think the DFI boards like to run with 3 sticks, mine wouldn't either. I'll probably get an Epox board when I upgrade to socket M2, save some scratch.
 
Originally posted by: dohyun
I'd like to get the epox motherboard but it is not offered in a bundle deal @ monarch computers.
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I think a while back someone from Monarch claimed they didn't carry Epox because of too many DOA or some other excuse. Don't worry, however, you can get decent overclocking motherboards from Monarch for pretty cheap. They have the Abit KN8 for about $86 in the bundles and the one that I have is definately capable of hitting 300MHz system bus with minimal tweaking (only lowering HT to 4X and memory to 2/3). It has voltages for everything, and plenty of it. It has more memory tweaks than I know what to do with.

Read Zap's Abit KN8 mini review here
 
Originally posted by: Zap
I don't know why people still play the love/hate game with hardware - if you work with enough hardware you'll find that lots of hardware can be quirky and most have some kind of failure rate - doesn't matter what brand. Sure, there can be widespread failures like the IBM Deathstars, but for every person saying "oh don't buy WD because they're crap and I've had nothing but failures while all my Maxtors are fine" is another person saying "oh don't buy Maxtor because they're crap and I've had nothing but failures while all my WD are fine."
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Yah I totally agree with you. But I dont think this is just a bad board. If you check the DFI forums, where they SUPPOSEDLY have techs answering questions - all you will see is post after post about how no on can get the board to run stable - and almost no responses from tech support. Very aggravating.
 
You'll also have no trouble finding post after post about troubles with Asus, Epox, Abit, MSI etc. I haven't checked out the Street lately & don't know about the tech's bailing out but i've read gripes about the lack of support by others as well. They may be tired of answering the same questions over & over & figure the community will help.
 
Originally posted by: Snatchface
Originally posted by: Mem
've had bad luck with Epox boards...I've bought 2 (almost a year apart - back in the day of Socket A), and they both developed issues with bursting/bulging capacitors
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All brands were effected by leaking caps few years back,was down to a capacitor formula being stolen and used to make capacitors that was incomplete,not Epox's fault.
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That's true. The Class-action lawsuits are still going around from that fiasco. If I recall MSI is on the chopping block at the moment.
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My Epox mobo (8rda bought new in Feb. of 03) just died last week and it appears to be due to bulging caps. I just got the RMA number from Epox and they're fixing or replacing the mobo.
 
Originally posted by: vanvock
You'll also have no trouble finding post after post about troubles with Asus, Epox, Abit, MSI etc. I haven't checked out the Street lately & don't know about the tech's bailing out but i've read gripes about the lack of support by others as well. They may be tired of answering the same questions over & over & figure the community will help.
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To be frank, I've read MANY more posts related to issues with DFI's Ultra-D than ANY other mobo on the planet. I don't know...perhaps so many DFI Ultra-Ds were sold that they just seem to have more problems?

But prior to buying a mobo, I spent 8 months off-and-on reading reviews and posts on nForce4 mobos and due to all the negative posts with the Ultra-D, that was the first mobo I crossed off my list of potential mobos to buy. Memory issues, "not designed" for 20-pin ATX native power supplies, etc., all seem to add up to a "picky" mobo which I didn't want to deal with.

The one I settled on (read signature) isn't exactly my mobo of choice, but I bought the EVGA mobo/7800GT combo so the mobo was sorta free. It's been working without a glitch for ~2-3 months now.


 
Yeah, not too happy myself with my DFI Infinity NF4-Ultra. Cant get much out of my Opteron 165 without the damned onboard NIC crapping out, and some other niggling issues to boot.

This was just a stop-gap for me anyway as I was waiting for some more Crossfire boards to go main stream... The Asus A8R is calling my name 🙂
 
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