Epidemic of Prison Guard Brutality at Rikers

Oldgamer

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"What emerges is a damning portrait of guards on Rikers Island, who are poorly equipped to deal with mental illness and instead repeatedly respond with overwhelming force to even minor provocations."

This right here, we have no business putting the mentally ill in prisons to begin with. Prison guards are not equipped or trained to deal with the severely mentally ill.

God this makes me so damn angry just reading this. This is horrendously sad, and tragic.
 

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Correction officers handcuffed him to a gurney and transported him to a clinic examination room beyond the range of video cameras where, witnesses say, several guards beat him as members of the medical staff begged for them to stop. The next morning, the walls and cabinets of the examination room were still stained with Mr. Lane’s blood.

The assaults on Mr. Bautista and Mr. Lane were not isolated episodes. Brutal attacks by correction officers on inmates — particularly those with mental health issues — are common occurrences inside Rikers, the country’s second-largest jail, a four-month investigation by The New York Times found.

My question is why the fuck aren't these prison guards in jail themselves??
 

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Plentiful cameras, humane laws, and restless oversight.

And that's just for the violence in there. Keeping people out is another issue. Our propensity to throw non violent offenders in jail contributes to crowding and poor oversight of these prisons.

God this makes me so damn angry just reading this. This is horrendously sad, and tragic.

People often say we'd rather be in an American jail than other nations, such as Mexico. That's probably not true for all our correction facilities.
 
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Oldgamer

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Plentiful cameras, humane laws, and restless oversight.

And that's just for the violence in there. Keeping people out is another issue. Our propensity to throw non violent offenders in jail contributes to crowding and poor oversight of these prisons.



People often say we'd rather be in an American jail than other nations, such as Mexico. That's probably not true for all our correction facilities.


Honestly I have read enough news reports on many jails through American, some in little towns, and places you would never think you would hear about this kind of crap, and this shit is happening everywhere in America.

I don't think people realize just how bad it has really gotten. Unless you want to do something to get yourself thrown in jail to find out right now just how bad, otherwise you really just don't know.

In addition they had the FBI do an undercover investigation in that major prison just recently that got 7 sheriffs and several deputies arrested for trying to hide their main witness and hide evidence, then openly threaten an FBI investigator at her own home. That speaks volumes about how bad it has gotten systemically.

Then there was the huge investigation at that prison, shit was it Florida? Damn losing track of the different ones now. Anyway, point is, there has been a lot of these over the past 2 years.
 
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I have a sister who thought it would be a great way to shock her son and let him get sent to the county jail which I know is known to be very rough. He isn't a bad kid, just recently got into a bit of trouble. She and I got into it, because I told her she could be effectively sentencing her son a death sentence and not even realize it by doing that. Jails, and prisons have gotten much much worse when it comes to the human rights issues. People die every day from abuse, neglect, and just outright murder in these places.
 
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In before the Well - what about their victims?!?

Some blood thirsty creeps get off on stories like this. They want criminals tortured, not imprisoned and rehabilitated.
 

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In before the Well - what about their victims?!?

Some blood thirsty creeps get off on stories like this. They want criminals tortured, not imprisoned and rehabilitated.

Yep that is why we have the problems we have today, because people think like that sadly.
 
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Correction officers handcuffed him to a gurney and transported him to a clinic examination room beyond the range of video cameras where, witnesses say, several guards beat him as members of the medical staff begged for them to stop. The next morning, the walls and cabinets of the examination room were still stained with Mr. Lane’s blood.

The assaults on Mr. Bautista and Mr. Lane were not isolated episodes. Brutal attacks by correction officers on inmates — particularly those with mental health issues — are common occurrences inside Rikers, the country’s second-largest jail, a four-month investigation by The New York Times found.

My question is why the fuck aren't these prison guards in jail themselves??

No evidence and lack of willingness to prosecute. Just think in San Diego DEA agents looked a person in a room for 5-days with no food/water. 2 years later still nobody has been held criminally charged for this torture.
 

rommelrommel

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No evidence and lack of willingness to prosecute. Just think in San Diego DEA agents looked a person in a room for 5-days with no food/water. 2 years later still nobody has been held criminally charged for this torture.

Wasn't that accidental? Not to excuse it but it is different from beating a guy half to death. I think he got a sizeable payout too.
 

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Wasn't that accidental? Not to excuse it but it is different from beating a guy half to death. I think he got a sizeable payout too.

Not sure if it could really be treated as accidental when multiple agents heard him yelling through the 5-days and just ignored it. They just thought it was somebody else responsibility. At some point it crosses over from accidential to criminal neglect.
 

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Not sure if it could really be treated as accidental when multiple agents heard him yelling through the 5-days and just ignored it. They just thought it was somebody else responsibility. At some point it crosses over from accidential to criminal neglect.

I agree but criminal neglect is generally still less culpable than deciding to beat a guy so badly that the walls are covered in his blood.
 

Brovane

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I agree but criminal neglect is generally still less culpable than deciding to beat a guy so badly that the walls are covered in his blood.

I agree. They both share the same lack of ability of District Attorneys at the State Level and United State's Attorney's office to truly police Law Enforcement. At the state level you have local DA's that have jurisdiction not prosecuting despite clear evidence of wrong doing. At the Federal Level you have the United State's Attorney's office unwilling to press charges against Federal Law Enforcement. You almost need a special prosecutor's office that will have the willingness to go after corrupt Law Enforcement officers.