Enzyte users. Why is Bob smiling?

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http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/14944410/

Enzyte executive indicted for fraud
?Natural male enhancement? maker allegedly took millions from customers

CINCINNATI - The maker of dietary supplements that claim to improve everything from sexuality to memory defrauded thousands of customers and banks of at least $100 million, federal authorities say.

A federal indictment names Berkeley Premium Nutraceuticals, its owner and president, Steven Warshak, and five other individuals, including Warshak?s mother, on charges that include conspiracy, money laundering, and mail, wire and bank fraud. They are accused by federal authorities of luring customers with free-trial offers and money-back guarantees, then billing their credit cards without authorization.

Warshak, who has 107 counts against him, denies the accusations and will continue to operate the company, his attorney said Thursday.

The company, which recently said it has 5 million customers worldwide, is known for its ?Smiling Bob? ads that depict a man whose life gets better after he uses the company?s Enzyte for ?natural male enhancement.? The company markets nationally a variety of other products claiming to help everything from night vision to memory to female libido.

The company, based in suburban Forest Park, also used false advertising, the indictment charges. In one example, Wednesday?s indictment cited ads placed in Penthouse and other male-oriented magazines that claimed Enzyte was developed after years of study by two doctors, one at Harvard and the other at Stanford.

?The company president and others made up information in their advertisements, such as endorsements by doctors that did not exist, and results of customer satisfaction surveys that had never been conducted,? U.S. Attorney Greg Lockhart said.

Customers with complaints were told to write to a director of customer care who did not exist, the indictment alleges.

The Food and Drug Administration, Internal Revenue Service, postal inspectors and other agencies participated in the investigation.

The indictment says at one point, Berkeley marketed a supplement called Rovicid as a prostate health product for men, but later relabeled old stocks of Rovicid as a cardiac health supplement for men and women.

A court appearance for the defendants was scheduled for Sept.

28. Martin Weinberg, Warshak?s attorney, said he will plead not guilty and ?vigorously assert his innocence to all charges.?

Several charges, including conspiracy to commit mail, wire and bank fraud, that Warshak faces each carry sentences of up to 30 years in prison with conviction.

?We believe the government converted what in its essence is a civil and regulatory issue into this broad criminal indictment,? said Weinberg, who is based in Boston.

In March, Berkeley agreed to pay $2.5 million to settle allegations brought by the attorneys general in Ohio and other states that the company engaged in deceptive practices in the sale of its herbal products. As part of the settlement, Berkeley and Warshak did not admit any wrongdoing.

Five of the company?s former executives have pleaded guilty in U.S. District Court to defrauding customers through a product giveaway program that led to unauthorized billing of their credit cards.

Federal authorities have frozen $25 million in assets held by Warshak and members of his family, and Lockhart said authorities will continue to try to recover money to give victims.

Berkeley generated about $250 million in sales in 2004, mostly from telephone orders spurred by TV ads.

In a recent advertisement in The Cincinnati Enquirer, Berekley said: ?We have invested heavily in major improvements designed to overcome our early growing pains. The net result of these investments is that today we have more than 5 million customers worldwide, and our customer service is better than most of the Fortune 500 companies.?

The ad included a coupon for a free 60-day sample of any Berkeley product.




Part of me thinks if you're gullible enough to think Enzyte works you deserve to be ripped off.
But only for what you agreed to ripped off for. Not illegal credit card charges.
 

jpeyton

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Berkeley generated about $250 million in sales in 2004, mostly from telephone orders spurred by TV ads.
Jesus Motherfudgin' Christ! I'm in the wrong business.

I'll sell rebranded Centrum as "Dong Extender 5000" for a few months, bank the money, dissolve the company and live off the interest.
 

Jeff7

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Snake oil, still a viable cure for absolutely everything. It'll probably still be profitable in 500 years, when we are more like cyborgs, with various technological implantations to augment our biological systems, complete with microscopic robots to repair our bodies at the cellular level.

"It's the secret the Primary Medical Microbots don't WANT you to know about! iSnake Oil 3000 XP!!!! Its hyperquantum oxinanofiber technology ultra-vitalizes your cells down to the quark level, repairing subatomic irregularities that the microbots can't!"



Oh, I see why this sounded vaguely familiar.

updated 6:18 p.m. ET, Thurs., Sept. 21, 2006
Digging throuh MSNBC's archives?
 

RESmonkey

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Originally posted by: Jeff7
Snake oil, still a viable cure for absolutely everything. It'll probably still be profitable in 500 years, when we are more like cyborgs, with various technological implantations to augment our biological systems, complete with microscopic robots to repair our bodies at the cellular level.

"It's the secret the Primary Medical Microbots don't WANT you to know about! iSnake Oil 3000 XP!!!! Its hyperquantum oxinanofiber technology ultra-vitalizes your cells down to the quark level, repairing subatomic irregularities that the microbots can't!"



Oh, I see why this sounded vaguely familiar.

updated 6:18 p.m. ET, Thurs., Sept. 21, 2006
Digging throuh MSNBC's archives?

lol
 

Farang

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Originally posted by: Jeff7
Oh, I see why this sounded vaguely familiar.

updated 6:18 p.m. ET, Thurs., Sept. 21, 2006
Digging throuh MSNBC's archives?

I think he wanted to see if he could make his dong bigger so started doing research to see if Enzyte was legit, then found this article and posted it.
 

RESmonkey

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Originally posted by: Farang
Originally posted by: Jeff7
Oh, I see why this sounded vaguely familiar.

updated 6:18 p.m. ET, Thurs., Sept. 21, 2006
Digging throuh MSNBC's archives?

I think he wanted to see if he could make his dong bigger so started doing research to see if Enzyte was legit, then found this article and posted it.

OP got owned.
 

techs

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Originally posted by: RESmonkey
Originally posted by: Jeff7
Snake oil, still a viable cure for absolutely everything. It'll probably still be profitable in 500 years, when we are more like cyborgs, with various technological implantations to augment our biological systems, complete with microscopic robots to repair our bodies at the cellular level.

"It's the secret the Primary Medical Microbots don't WANT you to know about! iSnake Oil 3000 XP!!!! Its hyperquantum oxinanofiber technology ultra-vitalizes your cells down to the quark level, repairing subatomic irregularities that the microbots can't!"



Oh, I see why this sounded vaguely familiar.

updated 6:18 p.m. ET, Thurs., Sept. 21, 2006
Digging throuh MSNBC's archives?

lol

No, it was in todays newspaper, but since I didn't have the link to the newspaper article I googled, and when I found the msnbc story it looked like it so I posted.
I will try to find the more updated link.

I searched but it looks like they haven't put the story online. Its by Larry McShane in the New York Sunday news today.
The reason the story was in the news again is the trial started last week and is expected to last a month.


 

Jeff7

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Originally posted by: techs
No, it was in todays newspaper, but since I didn't have the link to the newspaper article I googled, and when I found the msnbc story it looked like it so I posted.
I will try to find the more updated link.

I searched but it looks like they haven't put the story online. Its by Larry McShane in the New York Sunday news today.
The reason the story was in the news again is the trial started last week and is expected to last a month.
I see.
Place your bets, within two years, they'll be back at it again, selling some other junk that doesn't work.

Good old American solution. Not satisfying your wife? Here's a quick and easy solution - just make it bigger! Bigger solves everything!!!! No need to actually work at sex, that'd be too much like exercise. Pop a pill and all your problems go away.

Stupidity isn't painful, but it can be expensive.
 

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the real shame is that our government allowed 1/4 of a billion dollars in fraudulent sales before they put a stop to it. After a year of advertising on television, I'm sure a lot of people were convinced that the product really worked, because "if it was false advertising, they'd have been stopped from doing it by now."
 

waggy

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Originally posted by: DrPizza
the real shame is that our government allowed 1/4 of a billion dollars in fraudulent sales before they put a stop to it. After a year of advertising on television, I'm sure a lot of people were convinced that the product really worked, because "if it was false advertising, they'd have been stopped from doing it by now."

sad part is they are stillputting out commercials saying the same shit
 

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Originally posted by: waggy
Originally posted by: DrPizza
the real shame is that our government allowed 1/4 of a billion dollars in fraudulent sales before they put a stop to it. After a year of advertising on television, I'm sure a lot of people were convinced that the product really worked, because "if it was false advertising, they'd have been stopped from doing it by now."

sad part is they are stillputting out commercials saying the same shit
Precisely, I was hoping it would stop or slow the amount of these annoying ads but they actually became more frequent after the news of the charges broke around a year ago.
 

jagec

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In other news, a government investigation found that 98.3% of emails claiming to be from Nigerian royalty were, in fact, scams.
 

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I was wondering when they were going to get sued for that credit-card shit; I've heard how their CSRs operate on the phone, and it was really only a matter of time before something like that happened.
 

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Originally posted by: jpeyton
Berkeley generated about $250 million in sales in 2004, mostly from telephone orders spurred by TV ads.
Jesus Motherfudgin' Christ! I'm in the wrong business.

I'll sell rebranded Centrum as "Dong Extender 5000" for a few months, bank the money, dissolve the company and live off the interest.

ahahahahahaha
 

Pepsei

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I can market the same thing...just add 1/2 dose of viagra in it and people will think it works.
 

Jeff7

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Originally posted by: DrPizza
the real shame is that our government allowed 1/4 of a billion dollars in fraudulent sales before they put a stop to it. After a year of advertising on television, I'm sure a lot of people were convinced that the product really worked, because "if it was false advertising, they'd have been stopped from doing it by now."
There's also those weight loss pills. The two get-out-of-jail-free cards for them are in the fine print:

"Results not typical" and "When combined with exercise and healthy diet."

Gee.....do you think that maybe it's the exercise and healthy diet that are responsible for losing the weight? Placebos are where the real money is these days. Just call it something different, and suddenly its value skyrockets.


Originally posted by: Fritzo
Do they have anything that shrinks it? I keep tearing my underwear :(
Or is it that you tear your underwear open with your hands all the time?
"Oh god...OH GOD! Where is it?!?!? -*RRRIP*- Oh....oh, there it is."

 

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For what it's worth, a lot of ingredients in Enzyte are used and work for libido and erection improvement.
 

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It's funny. One reason, I never ordered Enzyte was because of those commercials. I hate that "smiling bob" jerkoff.
 

rgwalt

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Originally posted by: DrPizza
the real shame is that our government allowed 1/4 of a billion dollars in fraudulent sales before they put a stop to it. After a year of advertising on television, I'm sure a lot of people were convinced that the product really worked, because "if it was false advertising, they'd have been stopped from doing it by now."

No, what is sad is that someone was willing to fork over money to a company advertising a pill that will make their penis bigger at 1am on Spike TV. I mean, come on people, get a clue. If their product did what it claimed, it would be bought up by a real pharmaceutical company in a heartbeat and sold over the counter for billions in profit.

It isn't the government's job to protect its citizens from themselves.

R
 

BUTCH1

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It's still going on, I see ads @3:AM for "Extenze" pills that will "enlarge a certain part of
the male anatomy" so the ad says. Hard to believe there are that many stupid people out
there but I guess there must be..
 

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Freaking idiots. If there was a dick enlarger pill, don't you think EVERYBODY would be taking it. Oh no, nobody wants a bigger dick- it's just your little secret.

The dick enlarging industry would be massive if it actually worked. We would have dick enlargement parades. Men would be in the streets high-fiving and enlarging their dicks. You wouldn't be able to step outside without tripping over someone's dick.