Those would be some good games. LSU could almost fill in for USC also.. they are both 2 loss teams, and USC should drop below LSU come tomorrow.
Those would be some good games. LSU could almost fill in for USC also.. they are both 2 loss teams, and USC should drop below LSU come tomorrow.
The purpose is to determine which team is #1 and which team is #2. It also helps conference presidents make more money by having more "marquee" games. Of course, everyone outside of South Bend knows that this is crap and that it comes down to ticket sales, local economy boosts and hotel rooms booked.
It isn't supposed matter when you lose
It isn't supposed matter who you lose to
It isn't supposed matter if you win your conference.
All that matters is #1 and #2. The rest of the games have been ruined.
I'd much rather have it the old way that the way it is now.
I don't think there is any doubt that Michigan is the second best team in the nation.
Props to Florida for having the sloppiest season thrown together ever to be worrying about a NC
With that said I would be opposed to OSU and Michigan playing each other again for the NC game,
I want to see the conference champs play each other because it is the way it should be.
Although having a rematch would help the push for a playoff system even more, especially if Michigan
were to beat OSU
Props to Florida for having the sloppiest season thrown together ever to be worrying about a NC
With that said I would be opposed to OSU and Michigan playing each other again for the NC game,
I want to see the conference champs play each other because it is the way it should be.
Although having a rematch would help the push for a playoff system even more, especially if Michigan
were to beat OSU
like a solution for a non-issue.
Some years there is a real problem figuring out which two teams belong in the Championship game, this isn't one of those years.
It all worked out quite cleanly today.
In addition to the above, the conference tie-ins for the bowls are crap. Conferences like the ACC have eight spots. You have teams like Miami & Florida St. this year, going under .500 in conference play (6-6 overall), and still getting a bowl game.
So, what and/or who is influenced to give bowl bids to teams like that?
meltdown75
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You didn't answer my first question.Originally posted by: jlbenedict
I'm a Razorback fan, so I'm neutral.
The point is, Florida should be given the #2 spot against Ohio St.
Michigan getting a rematch is very wrong for college football.
I want everyone to be clear on my thoughts, OK.
I am a Michigan fan, but that doesn't mean I want to see Michigan play Ohio State again. OSU is better than Michigan this year. I don't want to think about the possibility of them losing to OSU twice in one season.
That being said, people who don't understand the BCS and what it is supposed to accomplish, I believe that they belong in the discussion as a possible participant for the BCS championship game. This opinion is based purely on the facts. Wins and losses, rankings, and statistics.
Anyone who say that Michigan "doesn't deserve" a chance doesn't really understand what the BCS is intended to determine.
I am a Michigan fan, but that doesn't mean I want to see Michigan play Ohio State again. OSU is better than Michigan this year. I don't want to think about the possibility of them losing to OSU twice in one season.
That being said, people who don't understand the BCS and what it is supposed to accomplish, I believe that they belong in the discussion as a possible participant for the BCS championship game. This opinion is based purely on the facts. Wins and losses, rankings, and statistics.
Anyone who say that Michigan "doesn't deserve" a chance doesn't really understand what the BCS is intended to determine.
meltdown75
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Argh. I can't stand it when people say "Michigan had their shot".
Did OSU already win the title, because I missed that game.
Everyone plays their schedules and the top 2 teams in the country play for the title.
I don't know why it's so hard for everyone to understand.
Did OSU already win the title, because I missed that game.
Everyone plays their schedules and the top 2 teams in the country play for the title.
I don't know why it's so hard for everyone to understand.
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If Michigan gets the nod, it will be the 3rd time a team has lost its way into the BCS title game. The fact that it has happened twice already bad enough...it's a fcuking joke, actually. Kind of like the BCS.
As a neutral Penn State fan, I dont think that Michigan should have another shot. In all honestly, I think they are a better team than florida, but we dont know for sure. What we do KNOW is that OSU is better than michigan (alot better than the score of their game would lead you to believe).
I think florida should have their chance, even though I think that OSU will whoop their ass, and michigan probably could too.
I think florida should have their chance, even though I think that OSU will whoop their ass, and michigan probably could too.
$$$$$$
That is what ALL of this is about. All of the conference presidents are SO SCARED that a playoff would leave their conference out of the big bowl paydays.
The BCS doesn't care who should "have their chance". USC should have had their chance when they were #1 in both human polls and Oklahoma back-doored into the championship game.
It takes all of the numbers and gives you #1 and #2.
meltdown75
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cheers to the OP :beer:
thank you for listening to my whiny bitch-ass request to change the thread title
thank you for listening to my whiny bitch-ass request to change the thread title
The problem with "what the BCS determines" is that 2/3 of the formula is now by human vote. The voters are aware of this, and they are aware that they count enough to over-ride any deficit created by the computer polls (like Texas inexplicably jumping over California in the final poll of 2004 and earning a BCS bid because of it).
So basically, the BCS is now a popularity contest to see who a bunch of coaches and former athletes would like to see in the title game. The only problem this year is that they won't know exactly how much to bias their ballots by because they won't see the new computer scores before they have to vote.
Oh, and just a reminder, the coaches final vote is public information.
It will be very interesting to see how each coach votes.
It will be very interesting to see how each coach votes.
Originally posted by: meltdown75
cheers to the OP :beer:
thank you for listening to my whiny bitch-ass request to change the thread title
:beer:
haha
I didn't want to be labeled as a troll; that wasn't my intent.
I do my trolling in P&N
I don't understand the people who argue that the OSU/Mich game is a lot closer that it was. We could play woulda coulda shouda all day. The bottom line is, both sides made big and sometimes stupid mistakes that changed the game in a major fashion. To argue that OSU's mistakes somehow shouldn't count is ridiculous. Screwing up in such a in stupid manner shouldn't be used to argue that OSU is better, in fact it should be the other way around. If OSU fumbled on a stupid play and Mich won, would you argue that OSU should have won because it was a dumb mistake? The score is fair, stop arguing that it should have been different.
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