Engine temp question

Mxylplyx

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I have a 2000 GMC Jimmy with about 75K miles on it, and it has never had any cooling work done on it. Still factory fluids and such, using DEX-COOL extended life fluid that should be good for 100K miles.

During the insane heatwave that started a few weeks ago in Alabama, I'm talking 108 on the thermometer, I noticed that when I was stopped in traffic, the temp gauge would get up to 3/4, and would then drop back to normal when I'm up to speed. I first attributed this to the outside temperature, especially over the hot pavement, but then I later noticed the temp climb to almost 3/4 when it was a bit cooler outside, and I was also moving at the time. A minute later, it dropped back down to the normal range on it's own, so I thought it must be a sticky thermostat. Replaced the thermostat this past weekend, and all looked well until the next day, until I was sitting in traffic in about 94F heat. The gauge didnt get as high as it had before, but it will sometimes bounce up to about 60% when I'm idling. Am I just scrutinizing the temps too much now, and noticing normal behavior in the temps, or should a car/truck never get out of it's ideal operating temperature during normal operation?
 

woodie1

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Does your Jimmy have electric fan(s) in front of the radiator? If so, check that it/they are working.
 

Mxylplyx

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Originally posted by: woodie1
Does your Jimmy have electric fan(s) in front of the radiator? If so, check that it/they are working.

Fan is working. It is belt driven.
 

Zenmervolt

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Typical for most vehicles.

There is a threshold temperature for the fans to come on that is higher than the thermostat temperature. When sitting, the fans will come on after the thermostat has opened fully. When moving, with air constantly moving through the radiator, the coolant never reaches the trigger temperature for the fans. The system is set up this way because above about 30 mph the fans, if running, actually block more air than they suck through, so for optimal performance they should not run at speed.

Most vehicles will show an oscillation in temperature when sitting still. Many modern gauges (Ford, notably) are simply programed to sit still in the middle of the range unless there is a catastrophic change in temperature. Companies will do that because too many people were coming in and making service requests based on things that are just normal production variances (e.g. "My neighbor has the same car and his temp gauge stays at 190 but mine runs at 195, fix it.") but people still wanted to see the gauges in the dash, so they just program the electronic gauges to act like idiot lights.

I would say that if it never gets over 60% and if it's staying cool just fine at speed, then you're probably OK. If you really want to check things, you may want to check on the condition of your fan's clutch, the fan can still be spinning but have a weak clutch and not be pulling as much air as it should.

ZV
 

woodie1

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Originally posted by: Mxylplyx
Originally posted by: woodie1
Does your Jimmy have electric fan(s) in front of the radiator? If so, check that it/they are working.

Fan is working. It is belt driven.

Is the belt properly adjusted?
 

SpeedEng66

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I would change the dexcool they claim it's good for 100k but I find it very acidic @ 50k miles
 

milesl

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That truck should have a thermostatic clutch on the fan.They are supposed to get tighter as the engine gets hotter.Sometimes the thermostatic spring goes bad.To check one,start the truck and observe what direction the fan is rotating in.Some spin clockwise, some spin counter clockwise.Then with the engine cold and off go open the hood and spin the fan in the direction it rotates.It should spin freely.Then warm the truck up good,shut it off and go give the fan another spin.it should feel much tighter.If it feels as loose as when cold replace the fan clutch.
Also if you used a cheap aftermarket thermostat they can act flakey too.Good luck.
 

jagec

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Originally posted by: SpeedEng66
I would change the dexcool they claim it's good for 100k but I find it very acidic @ 50k miles

You're not supposed to drink it, you know.;)