Engadget Editorial: Hey Apple, why does it take an hour to put an album on my iPod?

[Zen0]

Find multiple android threads that I go into and crap on. For the most part, I stay away from posting in them at all. The only time I am posting in them is if there is truly a phone that I find interesting. I stay out of the majority of android related threads. Check it out for yourself.

If you read what I posted correctly, I told zen0 to cool it down. We don't need more ammo for the rowdy android bunch to shove down every apple fans throat. There is a large majority in this sub-forum that are just frothing at the mouth to post some sort of diss on apple. Zen0 is making it that much easier for them.

There are usually 5+ people who come into every apple related post and thread crap. This is as reliable as the sun coming up every single day. Happens every single time. Like clockwork. You cant say the same for every android thread.

Yea, are you kidding me? I post in Apple threads, I could not give 2 craps about a thread about one of a million plastic Android devices. You can try to find me "trolling" in any Android thread in this section of the forum, and you'll fail because I don't post in any.

The people who go around posting controversial stuff about Apple products, or the 10 of the Phandroids that inevitability follow like rabid little dogs are the only real trolls.

What's next, if people start threads on gays, if I appear in all of them in defense of us fags, am I a troll? :\

At the very least, your intellectual caliber is consistently on display in threads like these. I love the name calling and crying over not knowing how to use Drag and Drop.

 

[alent1234]

think of it in reverse - Its not that one doesnt have a fair bit of music; it's that one's iphone/ipod could be pretty much filled with stuff already & would like to pick a bit more judiciously.

I just want about a 4-5 GB mix of music so I can rotate through while working out, but apple seems to think it knows best how to choose for me

that's what makes itunes so easy

last year i got a hold of 50GB of music and needed a way to listen to it and choose songs i wanted to listen to more than once.

ended up creating 3 smart playlists for each genre. one main list based on artist or album name to account for compilations.
one list for all unplayed songs in the main list
one favorites list which is from the main genre list but a song has 5 stars

it works like this. the unplayed list is syncd to my ipad. used to be iphone. as i listen to songs i will mark some with 5 stars. next time i sync it keeps the 5 star songs by moving them into the favorite list and the others are taken off and replaced by other unplayed songs.

if i import more music by the same artist then it goes into the playlists automatically. if i want to listen to B sides i just sync the entire artist next time

doing this manually would take way too much time and i have 3 lists like this for a few genres of music. and the nice thing is that it's easy to transfer all itunes settings to a new computer so all of this will transfer over and i don't have to filter my A sides and B sides again

 

[darkewaffle]

I much prefer Winamp with my iPod, and back in the day ephPod was an awesome app to manage with. iTunes is godawful

 

[zoiks]

Same here. Takes about a minute to backup and synch.

Took my over 5 hours to sync my 20gb collection to my new iPod.

 

[Anubis]

Took my over 5 hours to sync my 20gb collection to my new iPod.

ouch

it would take what 30 min to straight xfer that amount of data over USB? whats itunes doing that makes it take over 10 times longer

 

[zoiks]

ouch

it would take what 30 min to straight xfer that amount of data over USB? whats itunes doing that makes it take over 10 times longer

Not sure. It synched over some shit which I thought were the actual songs. Then it started doing some 'Processing data' for a while. Then it started downloading the album art. Then it started importing the songs. All in all about 5 hours.

 

[alent1234]

Took my over 5 hours to sync my 20gb collection to my new iPod.

brand new out of the box latest gen ipod?

one time i had an issue with my 3GS with slow syncs and a restore as new fixed it. maybe restore from backup will do it as well. my guess is that it was fragmentation.

do you have your collection in lossless?

 

[Zen0]

Not sure. It synched over some shit which I thought were the actual songs. Then it started doing some 'Processing data' for a while. Then it started downloading the album art. Then it started importing the songs. All in all about 5 hours.

iTunes does a lot more than just transfer the songs into your device. Obviously, you can disable these options, my iTunes certainly doesn't try to get Album Art automatically.

My current library is about 10Gb (I have far more old songs in backup), and I just synced all of it to my iPad in minutes.

 

[alent1234]

bing images rocks for album art

just copy and paste into itunes. takes seconds

 

[Anubis]

I'm thinking I'm like the 1 person that doesn't care about album art

 

[Spoooon]

After downloading several app updates including NBA Elite which was 50+mb, it still only took about a minute to backup, sync and update tonight. Oh Noes!!!

Instead of making a comment like that, why not try and shed some light on why people have such varying experiences?

 

[Zen0]

Instead of making a comment like that, why not try and shed some light on why people have such varying experiences?

The common theme is that they know iTunes has nanny settings on default, yet take no time to learn to turn them off or use the program properly, and then go on to blame the program.

 

[Spoooon]

The common theme is that they know iTunes has nanny settings on default, yet take no time to learn to turn them off or use the program properly, and then go on to blame the program.

Except that guy said he has the nanny settings enabled. So, what's he doing that lets him backup, sync, and update in a minute?

 

[Zen0]

Except that guy said he has the nanny settings enabled. So, what's he doing that lets him backup, sync, and update in a minute?

A 50 megabyte differential shouldn't take more than a minute in any manner.

Even if a device has 30GB of files on it, iTunes does not delete and replace the backup and transfer it fresh every time, it only backs up any changes it detects - in this case - 50mbs or whatever.

 

[zoiks]

brand new out of the box latest gen ipod?

one time i had an issue with my 3GS with slow syncs and a restore as new fixed it. maybe restore from backup will do it as well. my guess is that it was fragmentation.

do you have your collection in lossless?

7th Gen iPod classic. I bought it from someone for my car. Not lossless collection.

 

[Capt Caveman]

Instead of making a comment like that, why not try and shed some light on why people have such varying experiences?

How should I know why they are experiencing troubles? I've mentioned in other threads that whenever I have had an issue, I've been able to look-up my issue on the Apple forums and have always found a solution. Issues that people are having, have more than likely have already been experienced/resolved.

I don't know what people are running on their pc's - ie. virus scan, defragmenting hdd, watching/encoding video or other background processes...

All I'm saying is that except for performing a complete restore, after installing a new album and/or apps my back-up/sync's average about a minute in time.

Note - 25gb of 32gb are used on my iphone and I'm sync'ing with a pc.

 

[ChAoTiCpInOy]

Are all your music files already in the iTunes Music Folder (ie did you consolidate all the music)? It could be that iTunes needs to transfer it from different areas and then onto the iPod.

 

[Fingolfin269]

I'm thinking I'm like the 1 person that doesn't care about album art

We're in the same boat. If it shows up then great. If not then I'm not going to hunt it down or anything.

 

[ChAoTiCpInOy]

We're in the same boat. If it shows up then great. If not then I'm not going to hunt it down or anything.

It makes it look pretty in cover flow.

 

[Anubis]

i generally delete it when it shows up

 

[hanoverphist]

The bottom line is iTunes is a powerful media organizer that you have full control over.

If you have 10 songs and nothing worth organizing, Drag and Dropping into your device's memory directly will work just fine for you.

i have over 1500 songs in over 100 folders and drag/ drop works just fine for me. my device autoscans the music, gives me random and playlist choices and allows me to quickly scroll through songs by artist, album or song name. all i do is drag one folder called "listen" from my laptop to my SD card while its mounted to my laptop.id say that is pretty damn efficient and easy.

my kids use itunes for their itouches though. they have their own playlists that they control from our master library, and sync only what they want to sync based on that. they dont mind spending the time to organize that stuff, where i dont care enough to separate.

 

[Zen0]

It makes it look pretty in cover flow.

Coverflow is horrendous. I make sure to lock rotation when I use iPod on my iPhone.

 

[Zen0]

We're in the same boat. If it shows up then great. If not then I'm not going to hunt it down or anything.

You could also Select All > Get Album Art - courtesy of iTunes.

 

[WelshBloke]

You could also Select All > Get Album Art - courtesy of iTunes.

Wanted my credit card info before it would do that.

 

[alent1234]

i have over 1500 songs in over 100 folders and drag/ drop works just fine for me. my device autoscans the music, gives me random and playlist choices and allows me to quickly scroll through songs by artist, album or song name. all i do is drag one folder called "listen" from my laptop to my SD card while its mounted to my laptop.id say that is pretty damn efficient and easy.

my kids use itunes for their itouches though. they have their own playlists that they control from our master library, and sync only what they want to sync based on that. they dont mind spending the time to organize that stuff, where i dont care enough to separate.

i have 8129 and haven't listened to a few thousand songs yet