Energy-efficient AMD A10-6700T APU Goes on Sale This Week(TPU)

[AtenRa]

I dont see any reason to go GDDR5, Im expecting at least 50% more iGPU performance than Ritchland in games most probably with 2400MHz memory.
AMD needs to keep Kaveri a low cost APU for OEMs and End-users, so i dont see GDDR5 or Quad Channel or even DDR-4 in 2014 time frame.

Ritchland is still the fastest iGPU in Desktop at $150 or lower. Kaveri with 50% more iGPU performance will be the first truly 1080p capable APU. Also, with 20% more Branch execution than Piledriver it will also boost performance with dGPUs in CPU limited Games.

 

[inf64]

No quadchannel either.

It was the stilt from XS who hinted about this, not me .

 

[el etro]

Problem is try to integrate 4 channel DDR3 on a budget platform. And we don't know the GDDR5/GDDR5M costs. In servers(Berlin) this maybe be good.
Still hoping they can use the full power of their IGPs this time.




And i think A10-6700 will be a awesome buy if priced 20$ less(they are charging higher prices for old technology with refresh) and come with unlocked multiplier.

 

[rainy]

Nope.

No quadchannel either.

Is it the same crystal ball which you have used in the past?

There will be no APU in PS4 and Xbox720.

 

[Phynaz]

GPU speed doesn't match what was posted here http://forums.anandtech.com/showthread.php?t=2328474

Wonder if they got a bump.

Edit: MSI is still listing it at 720Mhz. No other manufacturers have it listed yet.

 

[Blitzvogel]

Kaveri , with hUMA :

RAM---> CPU cache --> RAM --> GPU --> RAM

Not only is this going to move things along quicker, perhaps AMD could have Kaveri sport a larger L3? Especially with the idea of "feeding the cores faster" as well as a graphics array that needs constant feeding and streaming, a larger L3 seems to make sense. Not GT3e DRAM big, but perhaps 16 or 32 MB?

That or AMD hasn't revealed they will sport GDDR5 memory controllers or triple/quad channel memory. We can wish.......

A more robust cache system seems to be logical and AMD has some experience with very large on-die eDRAM arrays in the form of the Wii U's GPU.

 

[Abwx]

Kaveri , like Trinity , has no L3 cache , but direct memory access
will improve data flow latencies , that s why i think that it is erroneous
to use a DDR3 7750 as a comparison since such a dGFX has inherently
lower bandwith given that it has to cope with its own memory as well
as with the main memory data flow wise.

 

[Kallogan]

Energy efficient cpu no. Downclocked cpu yes. Like all low power cpus.

 

[ElFenix]

Energy efficient cpu no. Downclocked cpu yes. Like all low power cpus.

There is that. I think spcr determined that more power was used if you did something CPU bound on these throttled parts than on a regular part.

 

[Kallogan]

It makes only sense it you're limited by your psu wattage, which is the case for many mini-itx cases with dc board and external power block. I know for a fact a pentium or core i3 ivy has no problem to run on a 65W power block but i highly doubt this one could. A10-6700 65W takes up to 100W in real world. AMd's TDPs are far from reality as long as their APUs are concerned. But it could be a nice APU to fit in a small itx case with a 75-90W power block i guess.

 

[ShintaiDK]

It makes only sense it you're limited by your psu wattage, which is the case for many mini-itx cases with dc board and external power block. I know for a fact a pentium or core i3 ivy has no problem to run on a 65W power block but i highly doubt this one could. A10-6700 65W takes up to 100W in real world. AMd's TDPs are far from reality as long as their APUs are concerned. But it could be a nice APU to fit in a small itx case with a 75-90W power block i guess.

Its not even for that. Its for TDP chassis designs. Usually passive cooled with an external brick. Same applies for Intels S and T series.

As said before, these are not energy efficient. And whenever we get broad configuable TDP. Then these S and T series CPUs will be gone.

 

[paperfist]

Would I be better off going with a Intel Core i3-2120T Sandy Bridge (35W $135) or this new AMD chip for a strictly business PC?

 

[ShintaiDK]

Would I be better off going with a Intel Core i3-2120T Sandy Bridge (35W $135) or this new AMD chip for a strictly business PC?

Why any T or S model in the first place? They are not gonna save you power.

Its chips for something like this:
http://www.scan.co.uk/products/akas...-bridge-intel-dh61ag-sandy-bridge-motherboard

 

[AtenRa]

Would I be better off going with a Intel Core i3-2120T Sandy Bridge (35W $135) or this new AMD chip for a strictly business PC?

I would get the A10-6700K with Asrock FM2A85X-itx, you will have extremely low idle power, high single and 4 threads performance when you need it and extremely powerful iGPU for any applications that may use it in the near future.

I would only get the A10-6700T if i would like to biuld a slim mini-itx case that has a low power PSU (100-120W)

 

[paperfist]

Why any T or S model in the first place? They are not gonna save you power.

Its chips for something like this:
http://www.scan.co.uk/products/akas...-bridge-intel-dh61ag-sandy-bridge-motherboard

I didn't exactly do any scientific research, just went to newegg and sorted CPUs by wattage and that one was 1 of 2 35 Watt chips.

But yes, I want the smallest case possible without hindering performance. Again, just for businesses so I want to mount it under the desk and remote into it.

 

[paperfist]

I would get the A10-6700K with Asrock FM2A85X-itx, you will have extremely low idle power, high single and 4 threads performance when you need it and extremely powerful iGPU for any applications that may use it in the near future.

I would only get the A10-6700T if i would like to biuld a slim mini-itx case that has a low power PSU (100-120W)

Thank you. That was actually my second build choice, but the 65 watt rating was a turn off. Again, I haven't exactly been consumed by benchmarks and idle/load ratings, but more or less just going off the initial rating.

I was indeed planning on using a smaller case like the Antec ISK 300-150, but from what I read the PSU is iffy.

 

[AtenRa]

Thank you. That was actually my second build choice, but the 65 watt rating was a turn off. Again, I haven't exactly been consumed by benchmarks and idle/load ratings, but more or less just going off the initial rating.

I was indeed planning on using a smaller case like the Antec ISK 300-150, but from what I read the PSU is iffy.

With that Ante case and 150W PSU i would go for the A10-6700K. Turn on every power saving settings in BIOS and enjoy low power usage and great performance when you need it.

 

[ShintaiDK]

I didn't exactly do any scientific research, just went to newegg and sorted CPUs by wattage and that one was 1 of 2 35 Watt chips.

But yes, I want the smallest case possible without hindering performance. Again, just for businesses so I want to mount it under the desk and remote into it.

S and T models will not perform as non S/T models. They will be slower. Sometimes alot slower. Hence the huge gap between baseclock and turbo.

 

[paperfist]

Ok thanks guys

 

[monstercameron]

short review here:
http://ascii.jp/elem/000/000/819/819517/index-2.html

 

[Kallogan]

Nice power consumption :
http://ascii.jp/elem/000/000/819/819508/g4_483x399.jpg

This little apu should fit well very small itx cases.

Despite the lowest cpu power, gaming perfs should be pretty much the same i guess giving the close 3dmark score. Of course, it may vary depending on the game.