End of Windows XP support era signals beginning of security nightmare

[Chiefcrowe]

https://www.networkworld.com/commun...port-era-signals-beginning-security-nightmare

 

[C1]

Oh I wouldn't get too intimidated. Ive been running various XP systems for years and years with only SP2 and no further updates using Centurion's "Drive Shield" and "Smart Restart".
My systems boot to the cluster each and every time and I never had to worry about any malware. In fact, I boldly can go to where most do not dare go and, with great confidence, even install programs to trial test.

 

[Nothinman]

The security nightmare of people using XP is already here, MS not supporting XP any more does very little to change that.

 

[nemesismk2]

I will be with Windows XP right until the very end which is a first for me because I usually have upgraded to the latest operating system. It will be interesting to see if the security software I have will keep my Windows XP PC alive and virus free

 

[Gonad the Barbarian]

I foresee another nightmare, longtime XP users being forced to transition into Win8.

 

[Jodell88]

I foresee another nightmare, longtime XP users being forced to transition into Win8.

They better jump ship and buy Windows 7.

 

[gmaster456]

Anyone who is still choosing to run XP past it's EOL date deserves any problems they get.

 

[KLC]

They better jump ship and buy Windows 7.

That's exactly what I decided to do. I looked at win 8 and didn't like the new pardigm, my company just upgraded to 7 and I liked it, so getting win 7 while it's still current seemed like the best solution and I did the upgrade on my 2 home PCs. Everything has worked fine except for an access issue with my WHS box. If any of you think you know what is going on please look for my post just below this one, I'm getting desperate.

 

[nemesismk2]

That's exactly what I decided to do. I looked at win 8 and didn't like the new pardigm, my company just upgraded to 7 and I liked it, so getting win 7 while it's still current seemed like the best solution and I did the upgrade on my 2 home PCs. Everything has worked fine except for an access issue with my WHS box. If any of you think you know what is going on please look for my post just below this one, I'm getting desperate.

I am not sure which way I am doing to go yet, Linux or Windows. I will have to look into the benfits of both to make a decision before Windows 8 is out.

 

[StrangerGuy]

10 years later and MS would be trying to get even more people up from their Win 7 asses.

 

[tweakboy]

They better jump ship and buy Windows 7.

Exactly correct!!!

 

[tweakboy]

Exactly!!! correct. Win 8 is gonna be a joke.

The douche bags at MS cant even make a new visual style,, and all you have is the ugly theme of Vista .. They changed it a bit now but I dont care, I use my own vizual style. In Windoz 7 it cant remember folder views ... lets say you open a windows and drag it to the far right then close it. Next time you go open that same folder it will pop in your face out of place,,, Vista didnt have these kind of bugs.

Soo many bugs in Windoz7 They should team up with volkswagon and clean the bugs off the windshield ... heheh.....anyhow.

They did 1 things with this new OS. That is keep it the same but add Metro Interface. I even heard your jump lists will have to be from Metro interface.
No start button anymore,,, very stupid............. Ill pass and I dont care about 11.1 DX ,, cuz Im fine with my 11 since most games are DX9 or DX10 today , some future games DX11 and just couple games. heheheh thank you and GB. gl pointless to have support for something that you will never use.

 

[Nothinman]

Exactly!!! correct. Win 8 is gonna be a joke.

The douche bags at MS cant even make a new visual style,, and all you have is the ugly theme of Vista .. They changed it a bit now but I dont care, I use my own vizual style. In Windoz 7 it cant remember folder views ... lets say you open a windows and drag it to the far right then close it. Next time you go open that same folder it will pop in your face out of place,,, Vista didnt have these kind of bugs.

Soo many bugs in Windoz7 They should team up with volkswagon and clean the bugs off the windshield ... heheh.....anyhow.

They did 1 things with this new OS. That is keep it the same but add Metro Interface. I even heard your jump lists will have to be from Metro interface.
No start button anymore,,, very stupid............. Ill pass and I dont care about 11.1 DX ,, cuz Im fine with my 11 since most games are DX9 or DX10 today , some future games DX11 and just couple games. heheheh thank you and GB. gl pointless to have support for something that you will never use.

If the DB's at MS are so stupid why don't you put out something better?

 

[santz]

its never easy to find out how to make a product better than its predecessor especially with a product like windows as everyone I have met have had their own differing opinions.

Plus with windows being as big as it is- hackers always make ways to infect pcs with viruses and from what I have read about apple OS- its starting to find out how it feels to be in Microsofts shoes with viruses and naggers

 

[Muse]

They better jump ship and buy Windows 7.

I have machines that are running XP that won't even run Vista.

 

[Ferzerp]

XP is 11 years old... Can you imagine running a circa 1989 OS in 2000? That would be like running DOS 4.0 with Windows 2.0 on top of it in 2000....

 

[nemesismk2]

XP is 11 years old... Can you imagine running a circa 1989 OS in 2000? That would be like running DOS 4.0 with Windows 2.0 on top of it in 2000....

I would be happy with TOS 1.4 which was a great operating system for the Atari ST. lol

 

[Genx87]

The security nightmare of people using XP is already here, MS not supporting XP any more does very little to change that.

lol exactly. WinXP is a nightmare from a security perspective right now. Poor application development and procurement means some XP machines in the organization require local admin rights to run. At least Win7 you can tune the UAC up and make it more difficult for trojans and virus's to hitch a ride. WinXP is a free for all with admin rights.

And chances are real high his worry about security issues on users who dont know better is misplaced anyways. These people are running local admin and browse, download, and install everything they can and are infected already.

 

[nemesismk2]

I have a friend who is in tech support in China and he says most people he knows are using Windows XP with Internet Explorer 6 and never install any security stuff especially from Microsoft. This should be a worry for Microsoft especially after they stop the Security Updates in 2014.

 

[Rackmountsales]

Companies have two years to upgrade from software that is more than ten years old or install a firewall on systems in industrial networks.

 

[ViRGE]

I have a friend who is in tech support in China and he says most people he knows are using Windows XP with Internet Explorer 6 and never install any security stuff especially from Microsoft. This should be a worry for Microsoft especially after they stop the Security Updates in 2014.

Why would MS be worried? If they're not installing any security updates in the first place, the 2014 EOL wouldn't change anything.

 

[dawks]

XP is 11 years old... Can you imagine running a circa 1989 OS in 2000? That would be like running DOS 4.0 with Windows 2.0 on top of it in 2000....

Part of the problem is, Operating Systems have reached a level of maturity. Windows XP does what the vast majority of computer users need. Its fast, stable, and lets them run their E-Mail client, listen to music, download photos from their digital camera, and surf the web. What else do they really need?

DOS on the other hand was a completely different beast.

How much longer are we going to keep updating our OS's? At some point were going to run out of things to change/update.

The latest isn't always the greatest, as we've seen with Vista. And we're going to see with Windows 8.

 

[Nothinman]

Part of the problem is, Operating Systems have reached a level of maturity. Windows XP does what the vast majority of computer users need. Its fast, stable, and lets them run their E-Mail client, listen to music, download photos from their digital camera, and surf the web. What else do they really need?

To be protected from Malware and themselves to an extent.

How much longer are we going to keep updating our OS's? At some point were going to run out of things to change/update.

The latest isn't always the greatest, as we've seen with Vista. And we're going to see with Windows 8.

There will never be a lack of things to update because technology keeps changing. EFI, >2TB disks, 64-bit CPUs, SSDs, etc are all relatively new things that sort of work in XP but work much better with Win Vista and up. If things continue down the HTML5, mobile sets the rules, everything everywhere, etc paths the updates may become less intrusive but they'll keep happening even if they're on the back-end servers instead of your workstation.

 

[nemesismk2]

Why would MS be worried? If they're not installing any security updates in the first place, the 2014 EOL wouldn't change anything.

It would look bad for Microsoft if the number one cause of websites suffering from denial of service attacks is because Microsoft stopped doing the security updates with Windows XP.

 

[dawks]

To be protected from Malware and themselves to an extent.



There will never be a lack of things to update because technology keeps changing. EFI, >2TB disks, 64-bit CPUs, SSDs, etc are all relatively new things that sort of work in XP but work much better with Win Vista and up. If things continue down the HTML5, mobile sets the rules, everything everywhere, etc paths the updates may become less intrusive but they'll keep happening even if they're on the back-end servers instead of your workstation.

My point is we should look at Operating Systems differently and where they begin and end. For example Apple only updates Mail.app with the OS, but iTunes updates independently, whos to say Mail.app is an OS level component? For your first point, there's really no reason Windows XP TECHNICALLY can't be made 'more' secure with a Service Pack beyond marketing upgrade pricing. The fundamentals are all there. Now that Windows 7 works well, and is pretty darn secure, what do I need Windows 8 for? Windows 8 has a fancy GUI, but again, you could technically implement it on Windows 7. How many times are we going to change the GUI though? I can understand a new GUI as we change input models (from a mouse to touch), but how many times can you change the task bar and start menu? And do I really need to pay $130 for a new taskbar?

To me spending $130 every 3 years just to update something that technically works fine will wear out eventually. It worked well initially as we tried to figure out effective ways of using computers since it was so new to society.