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End of The Internet:4-12-05 RIAA/MPAA take over control of ISP's, France first to rollover

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dmcowen674

No Lifer
3-18-2005 Federal Government & Credit Card Companies Deal Aims to Prevent Web Cigarette Sales

Major credit card companies will refuse to participate in Internet sales of cigarettes nationwide under a government agreement made Thursday.

The agreement announced Thursday also includes American Express, Visa, Discover, Diners Club and the Internet financial transaction service PayPal, which is owned by eBay Inc.

New York's ban on Internet cigarette sales was the first in the nation.

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Norway's supreme court has ruled that a Norwegian college student must pay nearly $16,000 to the music industry simply for linking to illegal music files.

If users and companies can be held liable for simply linking to (not hosting) illegal files, aren't search engines and thousands of additional websites liable as well? Are the ISP's liable?

1-29-2005 College Student forced to pay RIAA $16,000 for simply linking music files.

Norway's supreme court ruled Thursday that a student whose Napster.no homepage was linked to free Internet music files must compensate the music industry.

The country's highest court upheld a lower court ruling that ordered the student to pay $15,900 in compensation.

The student was learning computer engineering in the southern Norway town of Lillehammer when he set up the Napster.no site as part of a school project in 2001. His site had nothing do with the widely known Napster.com music site in the United States.

The Napster.no site provided links to music files in the MP3 format that could be downloaded for free.

The site was online between August and November 2001, and provided links to about 170 free music files on servers outside Norway, the ruling said.

The music industry group Tono, Sony Music Entertainment Norway AS, Universal Music AS and others, saw the case as an important test of principle, and filed a legal complaint for copyright violations.

"The supreme court decided the case based on responsibility for abetting (an illegal act)," the summary said.

It said the student violated the law by showing people where to find the illegal music and that his actions "were premeditated and worthy of criticism."
 
What a load of crap, the riaa and mpaa piss me off. They complain that piracy is hurting their business, and yet their sales are at an all time high. I would argue it helps their sales b/c people can dl a song and see if they like it before they spend $15 on a damn cd.
 
Originally posted by: ntdz
What a load of crap, the riaa and mpaa piss me off.
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As much as this pains me (😉 ), a :thumbsup: to your post!

P.S. I don't approve of piracy, but linking files in this manner wouldn't seem to be the problem (IMO)>
 
Originally posted by: ntdz
What a load of crap, the riaa and mpaa piss me off. They complain that piracy is hurting their business, and yet their sales are at an all time high. I would argue it helps their sales b/c people can dl a song and see if they like it before they spend $15 on a damn cd.
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So they can't complain unless it hurts their sales? Don't they have the right to have the highest profit as they can have? Fact is people are taking something for nothing. If you don't approve of the RIAA or MPAA don't buy their songs.

 
Originally posted by: dmcowen674
Norway's supreme court has ruled that a Norwegian college student must pay nearly $16,000 to the music industry simply for linking to illegal music files.

If users and companies can be held liable for simply linking to (not hosting) illegal files, aren't search engines and thousands of additional websites liable as well? Are the ISP's liable?

1-29-2005 College Student forced to pay RIAA $16,000 for simply linking music files.

Norway's supreme court ruled Thursday that a student whose Napster.no homepage was linked to free Internet music files must compensate the music industry.

The country's highest court upheld a lower court ruling that ordered the student to pay $15,900 in compensation.

The student was learning computer engineering in the southern Norway town of Lillehammer when he set up the Napster.no site as part of a school project in 2001. His site had nothing do with the widely known Napster.com music site in the United States.

The Napster.no site provided links to music files in the MP3 format that could be downloaded for free.

The site was online between August and November 2001, and provided links to about 170 free music files on servers outside Norway, the ruling said.

The music industry group Tono, Sony Music Entertainment Norway AS, Universal Music AS and others, saw the case as an important test of principle, and filed a legal complaint for copyright violations.

"The supreme court decided the case based on responsibility for abetting (an illegal act)," the summary said.

It said the student violated the law by showing people where to find the illegal music and that his actions "were premeditated and worthy of criticism."
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Uh? Its the same thing as all those warez sites, and they have always been busted regularly.
 
Originally posted by: Infohawk
Originally posted by: ntdz
What a load of crap, the riaa and mpaa piss me off. They complain that piracy is hurting their business, and yet their sales are at an all time high. I would argue it helps their sales b/c people can dl a song and see if they like it before they spend $15 on a damn cd.
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So they can't complain unless it hurts their sales? Don't they have the right to have the highest profit as they can have? Fact is people are taking something for nothing. If you don't approve of the RIAA or MPAA don't buy their songs.
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linking != taking
 
Originally posted by: Infohawk
Originally posted by: ntdz
What a load of crap, the riaa and mpaa piss me off. They complain that piracy is hurting their business, and yet their sales are at an all time high. I would argue it helps their sales b/c people can dl a song and see if they like it before they spend $15 on a damn cd.
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So they can't complain unless it hurts their sales? Don't they have the right to have the highest profit as they can have? Fact is people are taking something for nothing. If you don't approve of the RIAA or MPAA don't buy their songs.
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I stopped buying CDs when they started releasing crap albums and packed so much retarded security features onto CDs that they stopped working in some players.

Now I download MP3s from Russia and elsewhere and guess what it's legal in Canada. I just can't host it.

Thx Supreme Court of Canada for pissing into their breakfast cereal.

Bunch of money grabbing pricks.

P.S. I would much rather support artists directly and have done so before by purchasing their MP3s or CDs direct or through small third parties where profits actually go to the artists and not a big name pimp. Yeah a pimp. That's all they are.
 
This kind of shiat is not going to help Democrats.

Tax and spend piece of crap :|

3-10-2005Democrat Wisconsin Governor Doyle hides sales tax on Internet downloads

Madison - Gov. Jim Doyle wants you to pay Wisconsin's 5% sales tax whenever you pay to download a song, book, movie or piece of art.

One Internet scholar said Wisconsin might be the first state to tax those downloads, which are exploding.

"I'm not aware of any other state that is doing this," said Lee Rainie, director of the non-profit Pew Internet & America Life Project.

But the state Revenue Department says South Dakota does.

Republican Rep. Scott Jensen, who dubbed the governor's idea an "iPod" tax, said he will ask his fellow Republicans who control the Legislature to kill it.
 
yeah this guys a moron. also if they tax music downloads they can bust file traders with tax evasion, like they do potheads.
 
Originally posted by: dmcowen674
Madison - Gov. Jim Doyle wants you to pay Wisconsin's 5% sales tax whenever you pay to download a song, book, movie or piece of art.
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So if I lived in his state, each time I would visit Photo.net, I'd have to pay? (er, photo.net doesn't charge to view the gallery, but what if I "subscribed"?) Still, if they're going to tax any and every "intellectual property" purchase made through the internet, then they should at least have the decency not to sue people when they pirate all the more because of the RIAA tax (e.g. Canada).
 
Originally posted by: dmcowen674
This kind of shiat is not going to help Democrats.

Tax and spend piece of crap :|

3-10-2005Democrat Wisconsin Governor Doyle hides sales tax on Internet downloads

Madison - Gov. Jim Doyle wants you to pay Wisconsin's 5% sales tax whenever you pay to download a song, book, movie or piece of art.

One Internet scholar said Wisconsin might be the first state to tax those downloads, which are exploding.

"I'm not aware of any other state that is doing this," said Lee Rainie, director of the non-profit Pew Internet & America Life Project.

But the state Revenue Department says South Dakota does.

Republican Rep. Scott Jensen, who dubbed the governor's idea an "iPod" tax, said he will ask his fellow Republicans who control the Legislature to kill it.
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Figures that the RRR FLLL will try to kills this.
 
Originally posted by: shrumpage
Originally posted by: dmcowen674
This kind of shiat is not going to help Democrats.

Tax and spend piece of crap :|

3-10-2005Democrat Wisconsin Governor Doyle hides sales tax on Internet downloads

Madison - Gov. Jim Doyle wants you to pay Wisconsin's 5% sales tax whenever you pay to download a song, book, movie or piece of art.

One Internet scholar said Wisconsin might be the first state to tax those downloads, which are exploding.

"I'm not aware of any other state that is doing this," said Lee Rainie, director of the non-profit Pew Internet & America Life Project.

But the state Revenue Department says South Dakota does.

Republican Rep. Scott Jensen, who dubbed the governor's idea an "iPod" tax, said he will ask his fellow Republicans who control the Legislature to kill it.
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Figures that the RRR FLLL will try to kills this.
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:laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :thumbsup:

Go get 'em Suder...

CsG
 
This is major slippery slope.

The Government will not stop at just Tabacco Sales over the Internet having Credit Crads banned:

3-18-2005 Federal Government & Credit Card Companies Deal Aims to Prevent Web Cigarette Sales

Major credit card companies will refuse to participate in Internet sales of cigarettes nationwide under a government agreement made Thursday.

The agreement announced Thursday also includes American Express, Visa, Discover, Diners Club and the Internet financial transaction service PayPal, which is owned by eBay Inc.

New York's ban on Internet cigarette sales was the first in the nation.


 
I think they need to prove someone actually saw his site and went to get illegal music first. I see how he could be convicted as accessory to illegal song trading, but somone should have to prove someone used the link. This is like saying since a person has a link to an Al-qeada website that they must be a terrorist.
 
Originally posted by: piasabird
I think they need to prove someone actually saw his site and went to get illegal music first. I see how he could be convicted as accessory to illegal song trading, but somone should have to prove someone used the link. This is like saying since a person has a link to an Al-qeada website that they must be a terrorist.
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I'm sure that will happen if it hasn't already and we just don't know about it and never will.

Que - X-Files theme.


 
Is this the beginning of a national internet tax of some sorts?

I think technically when we buy anything online we are suppossed to keep records and pay the state sales tax, even if the item was shipped from another state and the store did not charge you sales tax.

Since no one does this, whats to stop the govt from making credit card companies notify them when you make a purchase so you have to pay the tax?

 
3-23-2005 Utah enacts net porn law

Utah's governor has defied criticism from technology firms and free speech activists to sign into law a bill designed to protect children from Internet pornography.

ISPs in Utah have the option of blocking sites or providing customers with third=party filtering products unless they want to risk felony charges under the new law.

The Law was written in a way to attempt to skirt constitutional concerns. Time will tell if the measures withstand legal srutiny.
 
Originally posted by: Infohawk
Originally posted by: ntdz
What a load of crap, the riaa and mpaa piss me off. They complain that piracy is hurting their business, and yet their sales are at an all time high. I would argue it helps their sales b/c people can dl a song and see if they like it before they spend $15 on a damn cd.
Click to expand...

So they can't complain unless it hurts their sales? Don't they have the right to have the highest profit as they can have? Fact is people are taking something for nothing. If you don't approve of the RIAA or MPAA don't buy their songs.
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but I want something for nothing

 
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