not to beat a dead horse, and everyone already knows this, but the 2D quality of the matrox is unbelievable compared to the geforce, and if i ever get the itch for a little Q3A demo action, it is a speedy little card. i never gave much weight to 2D until i bought a gladiac, and then got rid of it, and in the interim put in an old 2mb pci millenium and was blown away by the crispness of the 2D. i have been a nvidia owner since the orig. tnt, but gaming is no longer priority 1, and i am happy i have strayed.