End of baker story. Bakery will have to pay same-sex couple up to $150K

[kage69]

exactly.

and?

The shirtless choose to be shirtless, the exact same way gay people choose to be gay!


Whoa.

 

[master_shake_]

I never understood this. I have gay customers and their money spends just like anyone else's. Denying yourself extra profit to make some kind of point? Ya, I guess you really showed them.

this.

your providing a service.

capitalism > feelings

unless you can pay your bills with feelings.

 

[zinfamous]

And double standards.

seriously?

 

[kage69]

And double standards.

Compelling.

 

[Atomic Playboy]

To clarify where their confusion lies--these people fundamentally believe that gayness is a lifestyle choice; and one that can probably be cured or "fixed" through something like therapy, if necessary.

To these people, both examples are types of choices, and there really is no logical difference between denying service to personal choices.

Liberals love to argue that people are born gay. Well guess what? People are also born shirtless. Stop being such a bigot!

 

[Atreus21]

To clarify where their confusion lies--these people fundamentally believe that gayness is a lifestyle choice; and one that can probably be cured or "fixed" through something like therapy, if necessary.

To these people, both examples are types of choices, and there really is no logical difference between denying service to personal choices.

Right, except wrong.

These people fundamentally believe that gays ought to have some respect for the convictions of others that, until very recently, were the dominant beliefs about marriage the world over. What 20 years ago was laughed off as unthinkable is now orthodoxy, and those that dare object are fined a hundred grand.

But no. Tolerance is insufficient. Nothing short of endorsement, by force if necessary, will slake some thirsts.

 

[zinfamous]

Right, except wrong.

These people fundamentally believe that gays ought to have some respect for the convictions of others that, until very recently, were the dominant beliefs about marriage the world over.

But no. Tolerance is insufficient. Nothing short of endorsement, by force if necessary, will slake some thirsts.

love it:

"Intolerance of my intolerance is the same as bigotry!"

Shit never gets old.

 

[Atreus21]

love it:

"Intolerance of my intolerance is the same as bigotry!"

Shit never gets old.

In this case, it's intolerance of any substantive critical opinion of homosexual marriage. Worse, the governments involved to coerce critics into compliance.

 

[kage69]

love it:

"Intolerance of my intolerance is the same as bigotry!"

Shit never gets old.

Exactly, and no, no it doesn't. One of my examples, from last spring http://www.thewire.com/politics/201...s-that-wont-discriminate-against-gays/370872/

Businesses discriminatin against our religious freedom to pick and choose the parts of our religion to make others abide by! Well wtf thanks Obama!

 

[Zorkorist]

First they came for the Socialists, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a Socialist.

Then they came for the Trade Unionists, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a Trade Unionist.

Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a Jew.

Then they came for me—and there was no one left to speak for me.

Martin Niemöller

-John

 

[Cerpin Taxt]

In this case, it's intolerance of any substantive critical opinion of homosexual marriage. Worse, the governments involved to coerce critics into compliance.

Yes, children. Religion will actually make you THIS stupid. Let it be a lesson.

Religion. Not even once. :thumbsdown:

 

[FelixDeCat]

Liberals love to argue that people are born gay. Well guess what? People are also born shirtless. Stop being such a bigot!

Atomicboy tell 'em. :thumbsup:

 

[Vic]

In this case, it's intolerance of any substantive critical opinion of homosexual marriage. Worse, the governments involved to coerce critics into compliance.

No one is stopping you from having your opinion.

 

[umbrella39]

So denying service to the shirtless > okay.

Denying service to gays > bigotry.

Yep. I'd explain it to you but you already know why. Get over it.

 

[brycejones]

First they came for the Socialists, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a Socialist.

Then they came for the Trade Unionists, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a Trade Unionist.

Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a Jew.

Then they came for me—and there was no one left to speak for me.

Martin Niemöller

-John

Yep because not being able to discriminate against your fellow citizens if you run a business serving the public is the same as Hitler's Germany....

 

[werepossum]

Liberals love to argue that people are born gay. Well guess what? People are also born shirtless. Stop being such a bigot!

lol +1

Right, except wrong.

These people fundamentally believe that gays ought to have some respect for the convictions of others that, until very recently, were the dominant beliefs about marriage the world over. What 20 years ago was laughed off as unthinkable is now orthodoxy, and those that dare object are fined a hundred grand.

But no. Tolerance is insufficient. Nothing short of endorsement, by force if necessary, will slake some thirsts.

I certainly think gay people ought to have some respect for the convictions of others that, until very recently, were the dominant beliefs about marriage the world over.

That is NOT an excuse for government discrimination. Or for refusing service because you don't like someone's legal lifestyle.

 

[Sheik Yerbouti]

Right, except wrong.

These people fundamentally believe that gays ought to have some respect for the convictions of others that, until very recently, were the dominant beliefs about marriage the world over. What 20 years ago was laughed off as unthinkable is now orthodoxy, and those that dare object are fined a hundred grand.

But no. Tolerance is insufficient. Nothing short of endorsement, by force if necessary, will slake some thirsts.

or just equality in the eyes of the law, and no allowance for discrimination

 

[Subyman]

In this case, it's intolerance of any substantive critical opinion of homosexual marriage. Worse, the governments involved to coerce critics into compliance.

As opposed to a magical book coercing you to believe a certain group of people shouldn't enjoy marriage?

 

[WHAMPOM]

Yep because not being able to discriminate against your fellow citizens if you run a business serving the public is the same as Hitler's Germany....

Yes it is. If you do not learn from history, you will repeat it.

 

[WHAMPOM]

In this case, it's intolerance of any substantive critical opinion of homosexual marriage. Worse, the governments involved to coerce critics into compliance.

Is it so terrible being told not to practise your intolerance on others?

Christians so unlike their Christ. How HE must weep to hear HIS message of LOVE turned to HATE!

 

[Brainonska511]

Is it so terrible being told not to practise your intolerance on others?

Christians so unlike their Christ. How HE must weep to hear HIS message of LOVE turned to HATE!

 

[SMOGZINN]

lol +1


I certainly think gay people ought to have some respect for the convictions of others that, until very recently, were the dominant beliefs about marriage the world over.

That is NOT an excuse for government discrimination. Or for refusing service because you don't like someone's legal lifestyle.

Yes, they should have the exact same amount of respect for others convictions as those people have for the gay's convictions. Respect is a two way street.

 

[werepossum]

Yes, they should have the exact same amount of respect for others convictions as those people have for the gay's convictions. Respect is a two way street.

Agreed. Although personally I don't give a flying rat fuck if any particular person respects my convictions as long as I have equality under the law. I assume most gay people would be the same, although I really don't know any gay people particularly well.

 

[zinfamous]

amazing.

 

[JEDIYoda]

First they came for the Socialists, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a Socialist.

Then they came for the Trade Unionists, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a Trade Unionist.

Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a Jew.

Then they came for me—and there was no one left to speak for me.

Martin Niemöller

priceless.....you don`t get it do you..