Encrypted radar

[Charmonium]

RFID in the license plate adds unnecessary cost. They can effectively do the same thing with cameras to capture the license plate and bill it to whoever is on the registration. That's how it works here in Colorado, or you can get an RFID sticker to put on the windshield. The sticker gives you a lower rate but you have to bring $20 upfront to pre load the account and keep it loaded.

Yeah, cops in NJ have had optical plate recognition for at least the past decade. I know because I got pulled over once for having an expired registration or some stupid shit and I couldn't figure out how they were able to do that unless they called in my plate number. Turns out that they are always out scanning plates.

 

[Linux23]

Yeah, cops in NJ have had optical plate recognition for at least the past decade. I know because I got pulled over once for having an expired registration or some stupid shit and I couldn't figure out how they were able to do that unless they called in my plate number. Turns out that they are always out scanning plates.

Yep. Which I think it's an abuse of privacy.

 

[DrPizza]

Yep. Which I think it's an abuse of privacy.

Abuse of privacy... visible license plates on public roads?? You're not serious, I hope. That makes as much sense as police claiming you cannot video record them in public while doing their job, because it's an invasion of privacy. Personally, I'm glad they do this - get the people off the road who can't seem to follow the simple rules.

 

[lxskllr]

Abuse of privacy... visible license plates on public roads?? You're not serious, I hope. That makes as much sense as police claiming you cannot video record them in public while doing their job, because it's an invasion of privacy. Personally, I'm glad they do this - get the people off the road who can't seem to follow the simple rules.

One person filming, or even one lunatic documenting everyone that goes down a particular street isn't the same as numerous computers logging hundreds of plates per second, and storing that data indefinitely in a central database. At that point, there's little to differentiate it from everyone having their own personal gps tracker the government can use to keep track of the subje... citizens.

 

[John Connor]

I'm not so sure that's a good idea. There would be nothing stopping people from locking down the vehicles of others for not so nice of purposes. Already, such hacking has been demonstrated; we need less of this, not more.

The answer is always an encrypted hand shake. 😉

 

[John Connor]

Isn't jamming still possible?

I've seen police radar jammers. But if they catch you I'm sure the penalty is stiff. Just like a strobe to change the red light to green. Although some if not most towns employ a coded strobe.

 

[John Connor]

This.

I feel like the dynamic of police forces will change substantially once this hits.

Wait till the news and police drones come out.

 

[ControlD]

I have one and use it daily. (Escort 9500ix)

It still picks off the vast majority of police radar and over the time I've owned it has paid for itself 20x over at least. (speeding fines are high in CT)

Note however that much like a seat-belt only assists in preventing injury, it only assists in avoiding tickets. Most important things are to stay within a quick brake-check of being legal & watching your 6 o'clock. In other words you need to be paying attention at all times with or without one which seems to be more then most drivers can handle.

Oh shit. Get ready to hear about how big of a loser you are for speeding in the first place.

I don't have a radar detector anymore, but Waze has saved me a few times.

 

[Rubycon]

I'm not so sure that's a good idea. There would be nothing stopping people from locking down the vehicles of others for not so nice of purposes. Already, such hacking has been demonstrated; we need less of this, not more.

The issue is laziness. Look at what happened to the Nissan Leaf. All you needed was the software and someone's VIN and you could see all the owner's history! :biggrin:

And most of the utility stuff isn't locked down either. Most SCADA stuff has the manufacturer default password. It wouldn't be hard to take down an entire [redacted] using simple [redacted] and [redacted]. 😱

It's not hacking when someone gives you the keys. 😛

As for privacy, you have to be kidding. You have a DL, your motocar has plates clearly shown. From that information, a bad person can pretty much destroy your life if they wanted.

Never fear, the new higher flying, invisible dirigibles will protect you all!

The Untied States of America. 😉

 

[Linux23]

Abuse of privacy... visible license plates on public roads?? You're not serious, I hope. That makes as much sense as police claiming you cannot video record them in public while doing their job, because it's an invasion of privacy. Personally, I'm glad they do this - get the people off the road who can't seem to follow the simple rules.

Huh? You must be joking, I hope. Are you telling me you don't know the difference between having your plates run for absolutely no reason at all besides being on public roads compared to having a cop manually run your plates based on suspicion (i.e. doing actual police work).

Unless you like having your driving habits uploaded to a central location and used for god knows what then cool I guess.

 

[Charmonium]

As for privacy, you have to be kidding. You have a DL, your motocar has plates clearly shown. From that information, a bad person can pretty much destroy your life if they wanted.

A lot of states don't make that information public. I know some have, just like they make voting records public. I know NJ doesn't. I think there is a procedure where you can go to the MVC (DMV) in Trenton though, pay a fee and have them look up a particular plate number. But in my case, all they're going to get is a name and PO Box number. I even managed to get my PO Box on my license, which is something they never would have done in the past.

 

[Rubycon]

Unless you like having your driving habits uploaded to a central location and used for god knows what then cool I guess.

Get used to it. Modern autocars have all sorts of event recording and (soon) telemetry. Speed traps won't be necessary in the future. 😉

A lot of states don't make that information public. I know some have, just like they make voting records public. I know NJ doesn't. I think there is a procedure where you can go to the MVC (DMV) in Trenton though, pay a fee and have them look up a particular plate number. But in my case, all they're going to get is a name and PO Box number. I even managed to get my PO Box on my license, which is something they never would have done in the past.

LOL these people don't need the information to be public. 😉

 

[lxskllr]

Get used to it. Modern autocars have all sorts of event recording and (soon) telemetry. Speed traps won't be necessary in the future. 😉

My next car may be vintage, and onboard spyware is a big reason why. I also prefer everything about old cars aside from reliability, but I can more easily work on them. I don't especially enjoy car work, but it may be worth it. I've spent most of my life with a toolbox and spare parts in the back. I can go back to that.