Enable 3d clocks for windowed 3d programs?

Lord Banshee

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Ok i would like to solve the problem with not using third party application but if i have to i understand :p

The problem is it seems windowed 3D application are not triggering 3D Clocks to start, so things like 3D CAD programs, windowed stress test programs are all running at 2d Clocks. I've confirmed this with rivatuner and 3D clocks do work on games for example it jumps from 500-625 on AOE3.

So is there anyway i can set up the 3d clocks to either (A) turn on when i open a certain application or better yet (B) turn on when a windowed 3D application has started just as much as a full screen version.

Also i am pretty sure i had this same problem on XP-Pro 32bit too.

Thanks
 

taltamir

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CAD uses the GPU?

Anyways, I would look in the drivers menu for something like "energy saving" features and disable them...

As far as I know only the 3850 and 3870 cards lower their clockspeed when not in 3d mode.
 

BassBomb

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3D CAD does use GPU, how else do your viewports work?

For my 6600GT and 8800GT it always goes to 3D clocks.
 

Lord Banshee

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lol, yeah 3D CAD programs use 3D accelerators for viewport rendering.

A lot of card have 2d/3d clocks actually. If i can not figure it out i think i will just set 3d clocks for 24/7. I was able to get a CAD program that uses Direct3D to work with using ati tray tools profiles, but it still did not work my opengl others :(
 

kmmatney

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With programs like ATI tray tools, you could assign 3D clocks to specific programs. Riva tuner does this as well.
 

Lord Banshee

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Originally posted by: kmmatney
With programs like ATI tray tools, you could assign 3D clocks to specific programs. Riva tuner does this as well.

I'll have to look at rivatuner (did not know it could do that)

But ATI Tray tools, does it automatic set the profile when that app is running? I thought you had to select the app though ATI Tray tools and it launches the app with a certain profile. I'll look into it, thanks.
 

Lord Banshee

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kmmatney,

The profiles in ATI tray tools do exactly what i want. Thanks :)

One thing i have to figure out now is to have vista not ask me to allow program to start during start-up. But that is workable :p
 

Lord Banshee

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Found the answer to my vista start-up thing by googling

Remove the startup app that is offending by:

Start----Run----and type in msconfig.exe

Go to STARTUP Tab and remove the app that is blocked by Vista noting on a sheet of paper where the program is run from. If the program app is run from the startup menu, then just go to Start---All Program Files---Startup Folder and remove the app there.

After removing the app, create a app Task using the Task Schedule with full VISTA blessed permission by following the instructions below:

1. Launch the Task Scheduler
Example: Start Menu ? All Programs ? Accessories ? System Tools

2. From the Actions panel on the right, select Create Task...
a. Give the app a name of your choice in the "Name Section"

3. Go to the Security Options on the General tab
a. Select an user account with administrative privileges
b. Select the radio button Run only when user is logged on
c. Check the box Run with highest privileges

4.Go to the Triggers tab and click New...
a. In Begin the task, select At log on
b. In the Settings options, select All users
c. In the Advanced Settings options, check the box Enabled
d. Click OK to close the dialog

5. Go to the Actions tab and click New...
a. For Action, select Start a program
b. In the Settings options, browse for the Program/Script you want to execute on
startup
c. Click OK to close the dialog

6. Go to the Settings tab
a. Check the box Run task as soon as possible after a scheduled start is missed
b. Uncheck the box Stop the task if it runs longer than

7. Make any other desired settings

8. Click OK to save and close the task properties


What this will now accomplish is that once and for all your non-VISTA apps will run at windows startup with full permission and therefore the blocked programs alert on the bottom right tray of the desktop will disappear for ever (Vista is happy).

NOTE: If you have an app that reappears in the STARTUP in MSCONFIG...you will need to uncheck in the application itself to stop running at startup. VISTA will give that blocked message if you don't stop it from running at startup as a non-vista app. What our aim is to stop the program from loading at startup and run the program through the TASK Scheduler with full Vista blessing ( the workaround).

By: felixthecat123
 

betasub

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Thanks for posting that work-around, LB. Should come in useful for other Vista users.
 

Lord Banshee

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No Problem, i am glad i found it. That had to be the only "real" problem i had with vista OS and now it is solved. Now all other problem is hardware manufacture issues to fix as far as my system goes :)