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Emulators.com Reverses Stance on Pentium 4. Athlon XP Now The Runner-up.

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AGodspeed

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http://www.emulators.com/docs/pentium_4.htm

Quite a reverse of sentiment from some of his earlier articles.

Mihocka's stance on the Pentium 4 is certainly understandable though. Here's why:

1. P4 CPU prices are, generally, quite lower than they were back in November 2000, which was when the P4 debuted.
2. Rambus prices have taken a nose dive since the P4's debut, further pushing system prices down.
3. Intel then dumps Rambus for DDR as the OEM memory standard for P4 processors, again further pushing prices down (not to mention the fact that i845 boards are generally cheaper than i850 boards).
4. The Athlon is nearing the end of its life, but the P4 is only beginning to ramp up its clock speed.
5. Intel has a good 9 month lead on AMD in terms of first shipping .13-micron processors (PIII mobile Tualatins arrived in notebooks last August, AXP mobile Thoroughbreds will arrive this April...maybe).

And I'm sure there are other things I'm forgetting...
 
Wow some really good information, and some other not so good information.

Based on some claims that I've read about the Hammer, AMD would be smart to produce a 64-bit-less version of the Hammer and get that to market as soon as possible. Drop the 64-bit crap, but keep the Pentium 4 SSE2 support, keep the faster larger cache, and get that .13 micron product out on the market today if you expect to have any hope of stopping the Pentium 4.

This is a pretty good idea. For now most people wont even be using 64 bit software. And a majority of consumers in the future still wont even use 64 bit programs. I mean what games or programs are actually going to benefit from 64 bit extentions, and when? Guess we'll have to wait and see. But who knows what AMD is going to do. Maybe they need those 64 bit instructions to make the PR rating much higher to keep up with the P4. But still they could always sell 32 bit versions for cheaper and grab a lot of price/performance users out there. Just some thoughts. Thanks for the article AGodspeed.
 
After reading their last article that was the most biased, mis-leading, blatantly incorrect in some places, and $hit filled AMD boasting artcile I'm not sure I even want to know what their saying now.
Next week they'll probably be telling us the 8086 is technologically superior to the P4/AXP, and the Cyrix 3 is the fastest X86 microprocessor available.

As for modifying Hammer' to cut out 64bit compatibility.... it's too late at this point in time to undergo such a drastic re-design of the core as that would require if they hope to have the Hammer' appear before the end of the year.
 
Obviously these guys missed the idea of AMD riding the coattails of Intel. AMD would rather lag a little behind right now than be ahead of Intel at this point and time. If Intel seriously put their full effort forward does anyone really believe AMD would still be around today??
 
Well, I just finished reading all 4 pages. Whew. Can't say I understood it most, but this guy sounds like he has a grunge. The first 3 parts, he was STRONGLY anti-intel almost right off the bat, and right now he disses amd with the same kind of ease in part 4.

His casual use of adjectives such as "idiotic" and "stupid" is a little disquieting. It's well written, but could use polishing around the edges.

Still sounds like a disgruntled ex-Intel (or AMD) employee to me.
 


<< If Intel seriously put their full effort forward does anyone really believe AMD would still be around today?? >>



Having strong competition is actually to Intel's benefit. It keeps Uncle Sam off their back. If AMD wasn't around I'm sure we'd be having some Intel monopoly hearings.
 
I think a lot of people have reversed their stance on the Pentium4 and the Northwood, i845D chipset/DDR memory and the 2.4 GHz unit have all been contributing factors.

Quite simply the Pentium4 is now an attractive option to buyers but the same can't be said when it first debuted.
 
The original P4 release was but a shackled new generation of processor, almost as if Intel released a new Celeron. The Pentium 3 had plenty of life left in it and could have easily been able to carry the mid- to low-performance markets. Pushing the P4 out so hard and so fast really turned me off to Intel for awhile. I think the Pentium 4 was too little too soon at first. As the platform matures it has become a much more attractive option. I just hope Intel doesn't curb RDRAM support in the short term.
 
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