Employees Forced to Work on Thanksgiving Day or Face Being Fired

[MovingTarget]

You don't understand what "two-way street" means. It means that both an employer and an employee must agree to work together. If you don't like the terms of your employment, you are not bound (unless by contract, in which case you knew what you were getting) to continue working there.

Clearly there isn't as much of a problem as the media continually paints, as people still work for these companies and people still take seasonal temp jobs with them and people still agree to work knowing full well that "retail" means that you work to serve others.

Again, if you don't like it, you ARE free to seek other employment. In that sense, the employee has the power. If you are valuable to a company, they will try to retain you. If you are not valuable to a company, then you will be replaced if you leave.

And, no, not every employee is valuable enough to a company to try to retain.

Yep, they are free to go seek other employment - at every other employer down the street that does the exact same thing. You are kidding yourself if you believe that there is any real free choice for these lower pay/skill workers. Saying that workers are the ones with real power in that situation, when that power is merely to choose between losing their income and losing the chance to spend time with their families is very much a "Let them eat cake" type of statement. Every employee has an inherit dignity regardless of whether a company considers them "valuable enough" to have any. We can demand better than this from our corporations when it comes to workers choosing between their livelihoods and family time.

 

[BoberFett]

Keep crying. Your tears are amusing.

 

[Blanky]

Grand juries do not acquit people.

But mods do slap your wrist when you advocate the murder of the person in question, don't they?

 

[Ns1]

Tyler Barton, 24

:whiste:


I've worked more holidays than I can count. Enjoyed the 1.5x/2x pay.

 

[drebo]

Yep, they are free to go seek other employment - at every other employer down the street that does the exact same thing. You are kidding yourself if you believe that there is any real free choice for these lower pay/skill workers. Saying that workers are the ones with real power in that situation, when that power is merely to choose between losing their income and losing the chance to spend time with their families is very much a "Let them eat cake" type of statement. Every employee has an inherit dignity regardless of whether a company considers them "valuable enough" to have any. We can demand better than this from our corporations when it comes to workers choosing between their livelihoods and family time.

What can you expect when there are 100 million other people who are capable of doing your job?

 

[TheSlamma]

:whiste:


I've worked more holidays than I can count. Enjoyed the 1.5x/2x pay.

you mean the .5x pay the 1.0 was already there in your holiday pay.

 

[TheSlamma]

What can you expect when there are 100 million other people who are capable of doing your job?

This is why I hoard my money now while I have a job, all I see now is employers (private and public sector) grinding their people into dust now while humming the tune "you can all be replaced"

the only way I see to counter it is to be in as much control of your finances as possible, that way you can leave a meat grinder for your own mental health and look for a better job that might not pay as good but maybe it's something you can be passionate about.

 

[MongGrel]

In Bangladesh there are news stories of workers being found chained to factory machines, forced into labor against their wills. I suspect some on this forum and on the right would have no problem with this.

I used to work at a place where I ran two wire EDM CNC machines years ago, and some of them were even Hubble telescope parts.

I miss the Engineers I used to work at Honeywell, but Corporate HQ shut down the local Union shop here even over Senior Engineers I won't bother mentioning getting pissed off and HQ telling senior engineers to shut up and sit the fuck down.

The owner half the time threw things at me and I made them, I was sick of covering his ass after he hired some NAFTA half ass middle range Engineer that could not wipe his ass with one hand.

I could list at least 12 probably that made major patents for the company to begin with that I assisted, Honeywell has gone Chinese a lot is all I can say.

I'm still dealing with baby Engineers on a daily basis myself.

Most of the country does not recognize what an old school Tool and Die Maker knows, especially if they can program MasterCam a bit and watch the whole shop.

I might need to move on soon, seems everywhere I work at suddenly has their best year ever and I do not benefit.

I had one a couple years ago said were their best three quarters ever, I might just go see him to spit in his face, after the fucker fired me.

Seriously I might.

Actually I probably will.

I actually do shit like that.

 

[SirStev0]

I have to work thanksgiving too. And I don't get paid more. I just have to or I could be fired. And its 24 hours.
Because I am a fucking doctor and assholes get sick all year round.
But I'm sure someone will point out I'm one of those spoiled doc's so I deserve it.

Holidays are imaginary.
People need to get a grip.
You can get drunk/fight with your family and have turkey and cranberries just as easily and meaningfully on Wednesday.

 

[MongGrel]

I have to work thanksgiving too. And I don't get paid more. I just have to or I could be fired. And its 24 hours.
Because I am a fucking doctor and assholes get sick all year round.
But I'm sure someone will point out I'm one of those spoiled doc's so I deserve it.

Holidays are imaginary.
People need to get a grip.
You can get drunk/fight with your family and have turkey and cranberries just as easily and meaningfully on Wednesday.

I feel your pain.

Are a lot of good Doctors out there, people think it is easy.

Happy Thanskgiving at any rate, take some time off to relax bud.

:thumbsup::thumbsup:

The problem is basically a lot of assholes out there, I agree.

 

[Zorkorist]

Doctors are now public servants, due to Obamacare.

Of course they are working.

-John

 

[Zorkorist]

I think I have a hang-nail...

Doctor? Please?

-John

 

[Zorkorist]

Dr. Zhivago?

-John

 

[sportage]

A lot of this falls on the state and is your state a RIGHT TO WORK state?
If it is, you the employee are screwed no matter how you look at it.
The employer can treat and tell all employees anything anyway they want.
And get away with it.
The state is solely in the back pocket of the employer.

In China, if you refused to work they'd just shot you in the head.
We're not far behind.
As business gains ownership of both America, congress, and our government from A to Z.
And America business becomes more and more greedy, you really have no options left.
There are no limits on greed, especially in retail.
And like a cancer, the greed will spread.
You will work all holidays, or they will just shot you in the head.

 

[rudder]

A lot of this falls on the state and is your state a RIGHT TO WORK state?
If it is, you the employee are screwed no matter how you look at it.
The employer can treat and tell all employees anything anyway they want.
And get away with it.
The state is solely in the back pocket of the employer.
.

Yes, absolutely nothing to do with the fact that these are businesses that exist to make money and consumers demand Thanksgiving day deals. People shop on Thanksgiving and a store can lose out if they are not there for the consumer.

 

[Zorkorist]

And keep in mind, that as hard as you work, the Government is going to tax your earnings and give it to people that don't work.

Because the Government is the greediest of all.

-John

 

[Zorkorist]

A lot of this falls on the state and is your state a RIGHT TO WORK state?
If it is, you the employee are screwed no matter how you look at it.
The employer can treat and tell all employees anything anyway they want.
And get away with it.
The state is solely in the back pocket of the employer.

In China, if you refused to work they'd just shot you in the head.
We're not far behind.
As business gains ownership of both America, congress, and our government from A to Z.
And America business becomes more and more greedy, you really have no options left.
There are no limits on greed, especially in retail.
And like a cancer, the greed will spread.
You will work all holidays, or they will just shot you in the head.

And keep in mind, that as hard as you work, the Government is going to tax your earnings and give it to people that don't work.

Because the Government is the greediest of all.

-John

 

[Victorian Gray]

Doctors are now public servants, due to Obamacare.

Of course they are working.

-John

Nope.

 

[Zorkorist]

Sure they are.

-John

 

[Zorkorist]

They've been public servants for a while, as they used to get paid by the insurance agencies.

They can't turn any one away, they must treat everyone. On demand.

I can't think of a more public servant.

-John

 

[Zorkorist]

Bitch... I fart too much.

Smell this.

-John

 

[brycejones]

Bitch... I fart too much.

Smell this.

-John

Nope your posts here are more like projectile vomiting.

 

[Zorkorist]

Ahh,

Suck my dick.

-John

 

[compuwiz1]

Great! Posting in another of Dave's butt hurt threads. Having to work on Thanksgiving is a hazard of being employed. Outraged people should have inquired about the store's holiday schedule, prior to accepting the job. If we don't like businesses being open on holidays...don't patronize them. When they figure out that people won't do business on these days they will have no financial incentive to be open. It's really our own fault, as consumers. We're the ones who demand, support and condone business being open on these days.
I remember, as a kid, if I got a toy that required batteries and we didn't have any, I was screwed until the stores reopened. In the early days the convenience stores changed all that, then the rest followed. I miss the days when non-essential services could take a day off with their families.

 

[Sulaco]

Ahh,

Suck my dick.

-John

Someone is looking to be banned again, I see.