Eminent psychiatrist makes case Liberal ideology is a mental disorder

Socio

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the Madness of Modern Liberalism

Like all other human beings, the modern liberal reveals his true
character, including his madness, in what he values and devalues, in
what he articulates with passion. Of special interest, however, are
the many values about which the modern liberal mind is not passionate:

His agenda does not insist that the individual is the ultimate
economic, social and political unit;

It does not idealize individual liberty and the structure of law and
order essential to it;

It does not defend the basic rights of property and contract;

It does not aspire to ideals of authentic autonomy and mutuality;

It does not preach an ethic of self-reliance and self-determination;

It does not praise courage, forbearance or resilience;

it does not celebrate the ethics of consent or the blessings of
voluntary cooperation.

It does not advocate moral rectitude or understand the critical role
of morality in human relating.

The liberal agenda does not comprehend an identity of competence,
appreciate its importance, or analyze the developmental conditions
and social institutions that promote its achievement.

The liberal agenda does not understand or recognize personal
sovereignty or impose strict limits on coercion by the state.

It does not celebrate the genuine altruism of private charity.

It does not learn history?s lessons on the evils of collectivism.

What the liberal mind is passionate about is a world filled with
pity, sorrow, neediness, misfortune, poverty, suspicion, mistrust,
anger, exploitation, discrimination, victimization, alienation and
injustice.

Those who occupy this world are ?workers,? ?minorities,? ?the little
guy,? ?women,? and the ?unemployed.?

They are poor, weak, sick, wronged, cheated, oppressed,
disenfranchised, exploited and victimized. They bear no
responsibility for their problems.

None of their agonies are attributable to faults or failings of their
own: not to poor choices, bad habits, faulty judgment, wishful thinking,
lack of ambition, low frustration tolerance, mental illness or
defects in character.

None of the victims? plight is caused by failure to plan for the
future or learn from experience.

Instead, the ?root causes? of all this pain lie in faulty social
conditions: poverty, disease, war, ignorance, unemployment, racial prejudice, ethnic and gender discrimination, modern technology, capitalism,
globalization and imperialism.

In the radical liberal mind, this suffering is inflicted on the
innocent by various predators and persecutors: ?Big Business,? ?Big Corporations,? ?greedy capitalists,? U.S. Imperialists,? ?the oppressors,? ?the rich,? ?the wealthy,? ?the powerful? and ?the selfish.?

The liberal cure for this endless malaise is a very large
authoritarian government that regulates and manages society through a
cradle to grave agenda of redistributive caretaking.

It is a government everywhere doing everything for everyone.

The liberal motto is ?In Government We Trust.?

You have to admit he is hitting a lot of nails right on the head!

Then I have known for a long time Liberals are freaking nuts so this is no news to me.

 

SagaLore

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Here's another article that references him:

http://www.worldnetdaily.com/i...PAGE.view&pageId=56494

I think the guy's a bit extreme, but you can't argue that these points are invalid:

What the liberal mind is passionate about is a world filled with
pity, sorrow, neediness, misfortune, poverty, suspicion, mistrust,
anger, exploitation, discrimination, victimization, alienation and
injustice.

Those who occupy this world are ?workers,? ?minorities,? ?the little
guy,? ?women,? and the ?unemployed.?

They are poor, weak, sick, wronged, cheated, oppressed,
disenfranchised, exploited and victimized. They bear no
responsibility for their problems.

None of their agonies are attributable to faults or failings of their
own: not to poor choices, bad habits, faulty judgment, wishful thinking,
lack of ambition, low frustration tolerance, mental illness or
defects in character.

Now, even though I agree that it falls in line with the Liberal agenda, that doesn't mean we don't need someone to dedicate their efforts for those groups of people.
 

fskimospy

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Originally posted by: SagaLore
Here's another article that references him:

http://www.worldnetdaily.com/i...PAGE.view&pageId=56494

I think the guy's a bit extreme, but you can't argue that these points are invalid:

What the liberal mind is passionate about is a world filled with
pity, sorrow, neediness, misfortune, poverty, suspicion, mistrust,
anger, exploitation, discrimination, victimization, alienation and
injustice.

Those who occupy this world are ?workers,? ?minorities,? ?the little
guy,? ?women,? and the ?unemployed.?

They are poor, weak, sick, wronged, cheated, oppressed,
disenfranchised, exploited and victimized. They bear no
responsibility for their problems.

None of their agonies are attributable to faults or failings of their
own: not to poor choices, bad habits, faulty judgment, wishful thinking,
lack of ambition, low frustration tolerance, mental illness or
defects in character.

Now, even though I agree that it falls in line with the Liberal agenda, that doesn't mean we don't need someone to dedicate their efforts for those groups of people.

How could you possibly say that this falls into the liberal mindset? It has nothing to do with absolving people of all their responsibility for their condition, but it DOES recognize how your environment can affect your chances in life.

The guy who wrote that study is a fucking loon, it reads like a forwarded chain email.
 

SagaLore

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Originally posted by: eskimospy
How could you possibly say that this falls into the liberal mindset? It has nothing to do with absolving people of all their responsibility for their condition, but it DOES recognize how your environment can affect your chances in life.

What the liberal mind is passionate about is a world filled with
pity, sorrow, neediness, misfortune, poverty, suspicion, mistrust,
anger, exploitation, discrimination, victimization, alienation and
injustice.

Nailed 2 on the head.
 

OCGuy

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If we just give them the Bay area, they should be happy. They can have a little gun-free, personal wealth free, heroin filled republic!
 

SagaLore

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Originally posted by: Ocguy31
If we just give them the Bay area, they should be happy. They can have a little gun-free, personal wealth free, heroin filled republic!

Actually I think heroin is the drug of choice amongst rich republicans. I think the dems want free pot.
 

OCGuy

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Originally posted by: SagaLore
Originally posted by: Ocguy31
If we just give them the Bay area, they should be happy. They can have a little gun-free, personal wealth free, heroin filled republic!

Actually I think heroin is the drug of choice amongst rich republicans. I think the dems want free pot.

Eh that was a troll post. Apologies :)
 

Harvey

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Originally posted by: Socio

Topic Title: Eminent Liberals make case psychiatrist's ideology is a mental disorder

Fixed it for ya. No need to thank me. :laugh:
 

miketheidiot

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Originally posted by: SagaLore
Here's another article that references him:

http://www.worldnetdaily.com/i...PAGE.view&pageId=56494

I think the guy's a bit extreme, but you can't argue that these points are invalid:

What the liberal mind is passionate about is a world filled with
pity, sorrow, neediness, misfortune, poverty, suspicion, mistrust,
anger, exploitation, discrimination, victimization, alienation and
injustice.

Those who occupy this world are ?workers,? ?minorities,? ?the little
guy,? ?women,? and the ?unemployed.?

They are poor, weak, sick, wronged, cheated, oppressed,
disenfranchised, exploited and victimized. They bear no
responsibility for their problems.

None of their agonies are attributable to faults or failings of their
own: not to poor choices, bad habits, faulty judgment, wishful thinking,
lack of ambition, low frustration tolerance, mental illness or
defects in character.

Now, even though I agree that it falls in line with the Liberal agenda, that doesn't mean we don't need someone to dedicate their efforts for those groups of people.

as a liberal, that doesn't sound much like the liberal agenda that i have, or most of the liberals that i know have. I think the eminent doctor (lol) is confusing radical leftism b for the moderate empathy (if that) that is presented by the democratic party. Even then, i'm not sure that the case presented by the eminent doctor (lol) is really even a solid case.
 

Muse

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Originally posted by: chess9
The guy is nuts.

-Robert

Actually, to put a point on it, he's schizophrenic. It's a very common ailment these days and psychiatrists are not immune.
 

chess9

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Originally posted by: Muse
Originally posted by: chess9
The guy is nuts.

-Robert

Actually, to put a point on it, he's schizophrenic. It's a very common ailment these days and psychiatrists are not immune.

I wonder if psychiatrists and psychologists have more mental illness than the general population? It would seem to me that people who know they have their heads screwed on sideways might be inclined to look to those professions for help by studying those subjects. My brother got his PhD from Colombia in psychology and he's totally whacked. He even lives in California! ;)

-Robert
 

SagaLore

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Originally posted by: miketheidiot
as a liberal, that doesn't sound much like the liberal agenda that i have, or most of the liberals that i know have. I think the eminent doctor (lol) is confusing radical leftism b for the moderate empathy (if that) that is presented by the democratic party. Even then, i'm not sure that the case presented by the eminent doctor (lol) is really even a solid case.

But the radical left are acting as your spokespeople. You guys need to get together and tell them to STFU, they're ruining your party.
 

CitizenKain

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Originally posted by: SagaLore
Originally posted by: miketheidiot
as a liberal, that doesn't sound much like the liberal agenda that i have, or most of the liberals that i know have. I think the eminent doctor (lol) is confusing radical leftism b for the moderate empathy (if that) that is presented by the democratic party. Even then, i'm not sure that the case presented by the eminent doctor (lol) is really even a solid case.

But the radical left are acting as your spokespeople. You guys need to get together and tell them to STFU, they're ruining your party.

Is this the same party that just clean sweeped the election?
 

JD50

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Every time a read a post by the OP I pray that he's a liberal just trying to make conservatives look bad.
 

JD50

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Originally posted by: CitizenKain
Originally posted by: SagaLore
Originally posted by: miketheidiot
as a liberal, that doesn't sound much like the liberal agenda that i have, or most of the liberals that i know have. I think the eminent doctor (lol) is confusing radical leftism b for the moderate empathy (if that) that is presented by the democratic party. Even then, i'm not sure that the case presented by the eminent doctor (lol) is really even a solid case.

But the radical left are acting as your spokespeople. You guys need to get together and tell them to STFU, they're ruining your party.

Is this the same party that just clean sweeped the election?

Just because they won doesn't mean that their party isn't being ruined. See the Republican party for the last 8 years for a great example.
 

UberNeuman

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Ah, the sore loser train pulls into town and the gop whiners come a'tumblin' out....

Dear, "Republicans" - fix your party and drop the dopey ass labeling people as "liberals" just because they don't agree with you.....



 

sandorski

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The British tried to save you from this "disease" over 2 Centuries ago. Too late to cry about it now.
 

SagaLore

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Originally posted by: CitizenKain
Originally posted by: SagaLore
Originally posted by: miketheidiot
as a liberal, that doesn't sound much like the liberal agenda that i have, or most of the liberals that i know have. I think the eminent doctor (lol) is confusing radical leftism b for the moderate empathy (if that) that is presented by the democratic party. Even then, i'm not sure that the case presented by the eminent doctor (lol) is really even a solid case.

But the radical left are acting as your spokespeople. You guys need to get together and tell them to STFU, they're ruining your party.

Is this the same party that just clean sweeped the election?

Thats the point - Obama is a moderate, and he kicked Hillary to the curb! I'm very glad for the party.
 

SagaLore

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Originally posted by: UberNeuman
Ah, the sore loser train pulls into town and the gop whiners come a'tumblin' out....

Dear, "Republicans" - fix your party and drop the dopey ass labeling people as "liberals" just because they don't agree with you.....

I very much want the party to be fixed, and the neo-cons (another label!) purged from the party. Either that or enough moderates to flee from both parties to give Libertarians a fair shot.