Elsa Gladiac Ultra 2D Quality

yiwonder

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Well, how is the 2D quality on the Ultra? I know I've heard that GeForces tend to have realtively poor 2D quality due to some filter that manufacturers cut corners on by installing a cheap one.

What are your experiences with this and the Ultra?
Thanks
 

tcamste

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I have an Elsa Gladiac Ultra and find the 2d disply to be very good. I'm using a ViewSonic PS790 at 1280x1024 32 bit.

Seeing as how this is a very subjective opinion (as ALL opinions are anyway), is there any kind of benchmarking tool that can objectively quantify the 2d display?
 

yiwonder

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The problem is with this 2D quality junk is that it is completely subjective. One persion might find the display to be excellent, whil another person says it's junk. I really would like to see an objective 2D quality benchmark as I don't think there is such a thing.
 

BenSkywalker

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"I really would like to see an objective 2D quality benchmark as I don't think there is such a thing."

There won't be. The problem isn't chip level at all(at least, not with current boards). Want to see better then Matrox G400 2D quality? Hook a Hercules DDR GeForce up to an SGI 18" LCD display via LCD.

The problems with 2D image quality are all about signal integrity from the board to the monitor and then how the particular monitor deals with each different signal. For instance, the same Herc board I mentioned above that has stellar 2D quality using DVI out will most likely look quite sub par hooked up to a Sony G400 21" monitor running 1600x1200@85Hz. Instead of the signal moving directly from the chip to the screen, it needs to be converted from digital to analog via the RAMDAC and then passes through RFI filters and then is received by the monitor itself which needs to process the analog data. To benchmark something like this, you would need an external piece of hardware connected to the vid card instead of a monitor and then have it callibrated for the exact settings of each monitor to determine a good signal for image quality.
 

yiwonder

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Thanks Ben. I was mainly looking to see if Ultra owners were happy with their 2D quality because most of the complaints I have heard have been about the GTS. I do understand what you were talking about. I was just curious about the quality of the RFI filters on this board.

Is there a GeForce2 Ultra card that would be better to get than the Elsa Gladiac Ultra?
Once again, thanks for your help.
 

BenSkywalker

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If I am asked to reccomend one manufacturer then it is Elsa for GF2's based solely on 2D(for GF3s there is also the GF3 Giants<drooolsss>;)