Elpida "Hyper" chips no longer being made, Elpida filing for Chap 11 in Japan

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The price will either go up...or it will go down. Or, it might stay the same.
 

iCyborg

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Won't matter. I've never even heard of them.
Because you don't follow that industry: they were the 3rd largest behind Samsung and Hynix.

From the table given in the thread over at the CPU forum all the DRAM manufacturers had their revenue down, Elpida with -40% was the worse:
http://forums.anandtech.com/showthread.php?t=2235266

No idea how this would reflect on RAM prices, but they're very low these days...
 

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Prices will go up. There was severe excess production capacity. DRAM manufacturers had to keep that capacity running even in the face of losses since they would have likely lost money even more quickly letting that expensive machinery sit idle. It was almost inevitable that eventually one of the manufacturers would run out of money, as has come to pass. That also means that industry production capacity will be much reduced, less product will be put on the market, and prices will rise. How much or how quickly is hard to know, but unless demand shrinks as much as capacity does prices will rise.

Not a surprise though. The writing was on the wall for Elpida months ago.
 
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Elpida, while strong technically, has suffered because of the 2011 DRAM price collapse and Japan's strong yen. An export driven economy has to keep its currency undervalued to remain competitive in the world economy. The success of the Japanese economy raised the value of the yen. Elpida has good technology, but is simply unable to compete in an oversupplied world market using prices that are yen-based.
 

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I don't understand why these companies sit around and stagnate instead of developing more products that help sell their bread and butter. I want an inexpensive 10 slot ram drive that can fit on pci-e or 5.25" slots etc..

Too many businesses are a 1 trick pony doomed to obsolescence by commoditization.
 
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anikhtos

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I don't understand why these companies sit around and stagnate instead of developing more products that help sell their bread and butter. I want an inexpensive 10 slot ram drive that can fit on pci-e or 5.25" slots etc..

Too many businesses are a 1 trick pony doomed to obsolescence by commoditization.
me too and i am curently using 2 ramdrives form acard ans 9010
but where is the newer design acard!?!!
why ramdrives are so poorly and rare!??!!?
by the time there is a product it isabsolute already
size of total ram
ram type
was that dificult for accard to upgrade the ramdrive to accept ddr3???
which would make it cheaper to populated with ram!?!?!?
 

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Elpida is filing for the equivalent of Chapter 11 - which is, a corporate reorganization for the purpose of resolving bankruptcy. Development of new products is not likely in such a scenario unless someone is willing to pay for it. R&D comes directly off the bottom line.

This article was just released and sheds more light on the whys and wherefores . . .

http://www.washingtonpost.com/busin...kyo-exchange/2012/03/27/gIQAJudKfS_story.html
 
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I didn't assume that the relatively low price of RAM today compared to the past was due to a glut of producers. My thought was that, like any other technology, the more it is produced the more costs go down. Compared to CPUs, RAM has undergone a lot less performance changes. All the time it has been manufactured the processes have probably become more efficient. I believe that is more likely the reason for lower costs.
 

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I didn't assume that the relatively low price of RAM today compared to the past was due to a glut of producers. My thought was that, like any other technology, the more it is produced the more costs go down. Compared to CPUs, RAM has undergone a lot less performance changes. All the time it has been manufactured the processes have probably become more efficient. I believe that is more likely the reason for lower costs.

You haven't been following the ram scene much then. Remember when DDR2 was chump change? Then the huge price increase after all excess stock was spent.
 

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Elpida suffered setbacks with the tsunami as did sony. Not always plant and buildings, but in the case of sony more then 1000 workers died. Thus demand for ram was lowered since sony had production set backs. A lot of sony lap tops have Elpida ram and less were made in the last year. Right now people are spoiled with low ram prices.

ddr2 667 ram got down to 45 for a pair of 2gb sticks then rose up to 90-100 for the same pair of sticks. then back down to 50 a pair or less.

I was doing a lot of 2007-2008 mac mini upgrades at the time and ram price was something I tracked.
 

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You haven't been following the ram scene much then. Remember when DDR2 was chump change? Then the huge price increase after all excess stock was spent.

Apparently not. I never knew DDR2 RAM to be cheap, so perhaps my hypothesis was flawed :D
 

Gillbot

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I guess I should have stocked up on 8gb sticks instead of waiting for more drops. O-well.