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MrSquished

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Remember, he believes that was just a boy scout outing.
He is one of the most biased and willfully obtuse posters here that thinks he is moderate and reasonable. I don't know which is worse, guys like him, or the loons that just straight up say it
 
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mindless1

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example--This is what you once called protected political speech, just a little "dust up":
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Do you still believe these people are free from the consequences of their, what do you call it? Oh yeah: "speech." You know, because it's political.

Careful! This is a bit of a trap: If you call this political speech and as you want, demand that they be freed from judgement and punishment, then you are going against the marching orders of your GOP handlers that are very much upset that an undeniable right-wing Trump-lead attack on the United States has "been made political."

Tread carefully, here, this one's a doozy!

Not a doozy. Freedom of speech does not imply that you're also allowed to break any other laws in the process, and does not provide that you can force anyone else to listen.

Most if not all those nutjobs could have said the exact same things from their homes and not gotten into trouble.
 
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fskimospy

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Either he is arguing from a position of bad faith or he is really this stupid, either way nothing will come of this.
I think people like greenman and blackangst are trying to engage in a real way as opposed to unprincipled liars like Taj and brandonbull.

If you want real debate here and interesting ideas I think you shouldn’t treat them similarly.
 
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Greenman

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I think people like greenman and blackangst are trying to engage in a real way as opposed to unprincipled liars like Taj and brandonbull.

If you want real debate here and interesting ideas I think you shouldn’t treat them similarly.
While a pleasant thought, it doesn't much matter. Everyone who's common response is an insult is on my ignore list. They aren't looking for other opinions or information, they want to vent their outrage and have others agree with them. They also enjoy the anonymous nature of a forum because it allows them to say things they wouldn't dare say to anyone's face. I find it contemptibly weak.

You and agree on pretty much nothing, though we somehow still manage to be civil to each other, that's how adults operate, that's how people who actually think present themselves.
 

[DHT]Osiris

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While a pleasant thought, it doesn't much matter. Everyone who's common response is an insult is on my ignore list. They aren't looking for other opinions or information, they want to vent their outrage and have others agree with them. They also enjoy the anonymous nature of a forum because it allows them to say things they wouldn't dare say to anyone's face. I find it contemptibly weak.

You and agree on pretty much nothing, though we somehow still manage to be civil to each other, that's how adults operate, that's how people who actually think present themselves.
Most people react negatively to abject lies, especially ones continually defended after providing citations as to why they're lies. Do that enough and nobody will take that person seriously regardless what they say.

There's a reason most intelligent people believe the opposite of whatever Trump says, as an example.
 

ch33zw1z

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While a pleasant thought, it doesn't much matter. Everyone who's common response is an insult is on my ignore list. They aren't looking for other opinions or information, they want to vent their outrage and have others agree with them. They also enjoy the anonymous nature of a forum because it allows them to say things they wouldn't dare say to anyone's face. I find it contemptibly weak.

You and agree on pretty much nothing, though we somehow still manage to be civil to each other, that's how adults operate, that's how people who actually think present themselves.

In your time here, what have you learned?

here’s a short list of bullshit you’ve tossed around.

1. Claimed you didn’t know republicans commonly refer to themselves as the party of family values

2. fawned over a tshirt that read “adorable deplorable”

3. claimed the insurrection on Jan.6 wasn’t serious because of the poorly construction of the gallows.

now, fski may treat you with kids gloves, but you continually defend the “fuck your feels” party that hurls nothing but insults, encourages violence against fellow country persons, and is 100% sliding into fascism right now.

to you, it’s easier to pretend it’s not happening and blame others for your own failures.
 

fskimospy

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While a pleasant thought, it doesn't much matter. Everyone who's common response is an insult is on my ignore list. They aren't looking for other opinions or information, they want to vent their outrage and have others agree with them. They also enjoy the anonymous nature of a forum because it allows them to say things they wouldn't dare say to anyone's face. I find it contemptibly weak.

You and agree on pretty much nothing, though we somehow still manage to be civil to each other, that's how adults operate, that's how people who actually think present themselves.
I agree. You can disagree without being disagreeable. I much prefer you being here than many people I agree with more.
 

zinfamous

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I think people like greenman and blackangst are trying to engage in a real way as opposed to unprincipled liars like Taj and brandonbull.

If you want real debate here and interesting ideas I think you shouldn’t treat them similarly.

The thing is, I agree with you. I see greenman and blackangst similarly....and I know that greenman has long put me on ignore, and yet I still respond.

I actually like the guy, I know he's no terrorist like Taj or a propagandist methhead like brandonbull...but it has nothing to do with "being spoiled" that I don't engage with him on the level that he wants others to engage him on. I'm sick of the bullshit. I know he tries to approach things in his own way, honestly, but he absolutely refuses to actually listen to anything when he gets what he requests. At all. It's just lip service for him. When he hears facts but just rejects them anyway "because," he's being the worst version of the child that he claims to hate.

I have no tolerance for this, and none of this behavior is a mystery to me. His faux honor doesn't affect me at all. For me, everyone gets a chance. They get multiple chances. We're where we are right now, because of the years here. If you or I or anyone had the time to go back and parse the evolution of my interaction with certain posters, and the declining tolerance for some, for very specific reasons, this would be completely obvious. ...but no one has time for that.
 

MrSquished

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The thing is, I agree with you. I see greenman and blackangst similarly....and I know that greenman has long put me on ignore, and yet I still respond.

I actually like the guy, I know he's no terrorist like Taj or a propagandist methhead like brandonbull...but it has nothing to do with "being spoiled" that I don't engage with him on the level that he wants others to engage him on. I'm sick of the bullshit. I know he tries to approach things in his own way, honestly, but he absolutely refuses to actually listen to anything when he gets what he requests. At all. It's just lip service for him. When he hears facts but just rejects them anyway "because," he's being the worst version of the child that he claims to hate.

I have no tolerance for this, and none of this behavior is a mystery to me. His faux honor doesn't affect me at all. For me, everyone gets a chance. They get multiple chances. We're where we are right now, because of the years here. If you or I or anyone had the time to go back and parse the evolution of my interaction with certain posters, and the declining tolerance for some, for very specific reasons, this would be completely obvious. ...but no one has time for that.
Greenman has been willfully obtuse and willfully ignorant in defending indefensible conservative positions for so long. I appreciate fsim's point of view and his cool, I've lost mine too soon in the past, but the problem is people that are as reasonable as fskim have been the problem with the Democratic party, the underestimate the enemy and they are too calm with their language. I'm not talking about speaking like we do behind our keyboards, but it's the general sense of politeness and thinking the other side can listen to reason that is shooting the Democrats in the foot and not riling up the base and getting through to moderates.

I used to read a lot of political stuff on Twitter, on Facebook, on all sorts of media. It drove me crazy and I took it out on people online because they were representative of the sickness in America. I took it too far, but that's not the problem.

The problem is Democrats are pussy footing around the fucking issues, because they think people are reasonable at their base, and good, but they're not. The Republicans are consistently pushing the limit of evil at this point . Why be so polite to them? This is why the Democrats are fucked
 

[DHT]Osiris

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The thing is, I agree with you. I see greenman and blackangst similarly....and I know that greenman has long put me on ignore, and yet I still respond.

I actually like the guy, I know he's no terrorist like Taj or a propagandist methhead like brandonbull...but it has nothing to do with "being spoiled" that I don't engage with him on the level that he wants others to engage him on. I'm sick of the bullshit. I know he tries to approach things in his own way, honestly, but he absolutely refuses to actually listen to anything when he gets what he requests. At all. It's just lip service for him. When he hears facts but just rejects them anyway "because," he's being the worst version of the child that he claims to hate.

I have no tolerance for this, and none of this behavior is a mystery to me. His faux honor doesn't affect me at all. For me, everyone gets a chance. They get multiple chances. We're where we are right now, because of the years here. If you or I or anyone had the time to go back and parse the evolution of my interaction with certain posters, and the declining tolerance for some, for very specific reasons, this would be completely obvious. ...but no one has time for that.
A fun microcosm of the body politic itself. You could copy/paste this for conservatives vs liberals, left vs right, D vs R, etc.
 
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The thing is, I agree with you. I see greenman and blackangst similarly....and I know that greenman has long put me on ignore, and yet I still respond.

I actually like the guy, I know he's no terrorist like Taj or a propagandist methhead like brandonbull...but it has nothing to do with "being spoiled" that I don't engage with him on the level that he wants others to engage him on. I'm sick of the bullshit. I know he tries to approach things in his own way, honestly, but he absolutely refuses to actually listen to anything when he gets what he requests. At all. It's just lip service for him. When he hears facts but just rejects them anyway "because," he's being the worst version of the child that he claims to hate.

I have no tolerance for this, and none of this behavior is a mystery to me. His faux honor doesn't affect me at all. For me, everyone gets a chance. They get multiple chances. We're where we are right now, because of the years here. If you or I or anyone had the time to go back and parse the evolution of my interaction with certain posters, and the declining tolerance for some, for very specific reasons, this would be completely obvious. ...but no one has time for that.

You guys can jerk each other off over whom likes lying full of shit asswipes more, I have no time for them or this type of stupid nonsense.

If any of you seriously thinks he's at all honest, when presented repeatedly with his dishonesty, I don't know what else to say. Its like McCain syndrome or something where he's exactly the same type of piece of shit as the others you despise, but well, you just like the guy, so you give him a free pass, for some fucking reason, even though he's done all the same shit you find unacceptable from others. He hasn't even tried to hide who he is and yet here you are trying to justify being ok with that.

If "chances" are the number of times that you've continued to respond to him after he showed who was after trying to derail thread after thread with his "durr, I dunno, I don't see the problem" routine, then he's up to about as many posts as he's made on here.

Its completely fucked up that some of you are more accepting of dishonest assholes on forums that repeatedly get you to smear their shit all over yourselves than good people that you hate for no fucking reason.

Some of you seem to be suffering from battered woman syndrome where you repeatedly take stupid abuse but keep coming up with reasons for why they totally actually are good people, except for all the shitty stuff they constantly do.

Get over yourselves and maybe you can get over them.
 
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It goes from bad to worse. It seems Elon Musk’s 18-year-old child has filed in court to change her gender from female to male, and to change her name so as not to have Musk as her last name because “I no longer live with or wish to be related to my biological father in any way, shape or form.”.

 

ivwshane

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It goes from bad to worse. It seems Elon Musk’s 18-year-old child has filed in court to change her gender from female to male, and to change her name so as not to have Musk as her last name because “I no longer live with or wish to be related to my biological father in any way, shape or form.”.


This could explain musks recent political change. His son coming out could be causing him severe mental stress.
 

Greenman

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It goes from bad to worse. It seems Elon Musk’s 18-year-old child has filed in court to change her gender from female to male, and to change her name so as not to have Musk as her last name because “I no longer live with or wish to be related to my biological father in any way, shape or form.”.

That is a seriously rebellious child. I wonder what the rift is all about?
 
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MrSquished

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how is this a “seriously” rebellious child? Sounds like musk disagrees with his kids choices, and joined a political party that supports his hate.

its likely musk parents like he runs his business as well, which means he’s a grade A bag of dicks.

Musk just tweeted a transphobic thing - his ex gf Grimes, with whom had his most recent child, is dating Chelsea Manning. And now his child is disowning him and changing her gender.

I mean anyone not biased has long realized that Elon is a heartless dickhead, but to wonder why a child wants to disown their father after all this?

Willfully obtuse full of shit conservatives
 

brycejones

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Musk just tweeted a transphobic thing - his ex gf Grimes, with whom had his most recent child, is dating Chelsea Manning. And now his child is disowning him and changing her gender.

I mean anyone not biased has long realized that Elon is a heartless dickhead, but to wonder why a child wants to disown their father after all this?

Willfully obtuse full of shit conservatives
Man his ego is taking a beating.
 

MrSquished

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Elon is saying that Tesla's non China factories are losing billions

It's likely he is trying to manipulate the stock downward to then get more shares. Half the shit this piece of garbage person says about financial and business stuff is to manipulate markets.

Hate this prick

 
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Elon is saying that Tesla's non China factories are losing billions

It's likely he is trying to manipulate the stock downward to then get more shares. Half the shit this piece of garbage person says about financial and business stuff is to manipulate markets.

Hate this prick

I would put this in the "no s#%t sherlock" category. Any new factory is going to lose money as they ramp up production. Tesla burned through a lot of money in 2017-2018 as they ramped Model 3 production from Freemont. You then also add in supply chain shortages and you have a recipe for a money pit through 2022 as these two huge factories ramp up.
 
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