Elon Musk now owns 9.2% of twitter...update.. will soon be the sole owner as Board of Directors accepts his purchase offer

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MrSquished

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Jack Dorsey is still a moron in his own right - his recent endorsement of RFK Jr is just one example.

agreed. But I don't worship him as some all knowing dude. I just think he is better at tech/short form social media platforms and has the best shot at being the next big thing in that space.

Otherwise I could give a shit what he has to say. He also thought Musk would be the right guy to give twitter to also, RFK Jr, I mean fucking moronic. I think he probably is terrible at judging people.

I'm talking about building a short form social media product.
 

cytg111

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I killed my account months ago. My daughter is finally throwing in the towel and deleting her Twitter account. At Twitter she was suffering through waves and waves of near spam posts by some social influencer wannbe, pay-to-win, blue check. Spam she never requested, nor wanted. And thanks to Musk those posts count her down on some of the 600 rate limit… then effectively shuts off her access to ANY of her follows. She said, Fuck it. This isn’t worth it. Too much shit to get to access her curated list of interests.

I'm giving Mastodon a try for her to see if it's something worth while. Mastodon isn’t perfect, but I can effectively:

Filter my feed from triggers I don’t like/want,
Sub/follow tags and topics I want,
Join a server with admins that share my sensibilities (FU Elon),
Generally get what I want from my social news feed, without an algorithmic bait-n-switch.

Not bad, but I'll probably delete it after she figures out what she wants to do. No Bluesky invites.
That is so dumb… Elmo the genius. So anyone with a blue can start grinding down unverified accounts… Yea that is not gonna get abused in 1…2….3
 

MrSquished

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I got to hand it to Elon Musk. He's the only guy who can make a bunch of people actually root for Mark Zuckerberg right now. I mean they still feel dirty, but definitely want zuck over musk.

And I'm not just talking about beating the shit out of musk, but for threads over Twitter.

Impressive musk, impressive.
 
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Heartbreaker

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Musks new butthurt: He's threatening to sue Zuck and Co, for copying Twitter, and stealing "trade secrets" (LMAO
🤣).


Spiro's letter claimed that Meta assigned ex-Twitter "employees to develop, in a matter of months, Meta's copycat 'Threads' app with the specific intent that they use Twitter's trade secrets and other intellectual property in order to accelerate the development of Meta's competing app, in violation of both state and federal law as well as those employees' ongoing obligations to Twitter."

:rolleyes: The Ex employees ongoing obligations to Twitter. What about Twitters obligations to pay their severance?

Though maybe this is just more drama for their MMA cage match. ;)
 
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cytg111

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Musks new butthurt: He's threatening to sue Zuck and Co, for copying Twitter, and stealing "trade secrets" (LMAO
🤣).




:rolleyes: The Ex employees ongoing obligations to Twitter. What about Twitters obligations to pay their severance?

Though maybe this is just more drama for their MMA cage match. ;)
Early onset dementia? Mad cow disease? He is losing grip on reality. Cry harder biiiiiitch.
My pronouns is Bitchy/Musk
 
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Lol, "trade secrets". As if twitter is some technically challenging system. The more he says about the company he (over)paid $44B for, the clearer it becomes that he understands almost nothing about it.
 
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Lol, "trade secrets". As if twitter is some technically challenging system. The more he says about the company he (over)paid $44B for, the clearer it becomes that he understands almost nothing about it.
“280 char limit” tradesecret IP copyright… hehe
 

Heartbreaker

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Lol, "trade secrets". As if twitter is some technically challenging system. The more he says about the company he (over)paid $44B for, the clearer it becomes that he understands almost nothing about it.

There is nothing to sue over, the threat letter is BS. Threads is built on Instagram's back end with is multiple times more robust than Twitter, and Meta said they have no Ex Twitter employees working on Threads, and there is no reason to disbelieve them.

This would be the perfect time to respond with a Poop emoji.
 

VRAMdemon

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There is nothing to sue over, the threat letter is BS. Threads is built on Instagram's back end with is multiple times more robust than Twitter, and Meta said they have no Ex Twitter employees working on Threads, and there is no reason to disbelieve them.

This would be the perfect time to respond with a Poop emoji.

Surprisingly so because of all those Twitter engineers looking for work

Plus, they signed up more than 30 million sign ups in 18 hours

 

Heartbreaker

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Now feels just about the right time to ask Musk about his Twitter Purchase:

"Are you having fun yet?" :D
 

Thump553

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If Musk doesn't have a ironclad contract to protect his so-called trade secrets, and then further even assuming that Twitter has not already materially breached said contract itself, then no court in the nation is going to honor his trade secret BS.

Although it does seem very very odd to to have Zuck anywhere near the role of a good guy.
 
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If Musk doesn't have a ironclad contract to protect his so-called trade secrets, and then further even assuming that Twitter has not already materially breached said contract itself, then no court in the nation is going to honor his trade secret BS.

Although it does seem very very odd to to have Zuck anywhere near the role of a good guy.
Gonna be tough enforcing them when you laid a bunch of them off.
Non compete clauses usually don’t stand up in court to my understanding because if they are written too broadly and judge will toss them and if they’re written with a ton of slack why have people sign on them.
 

Zorba

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Gonna be tough enforcing them when you laid a bunch of them off.
Non compete clauses usually don’t stand up in court to my understanding because if they are written too broadly and judge will toss them and if they’re written with a ton of slack why have people sign on them.
They are also illegal in California (and Oklahoma).
 
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Gonna be tough enforcing them when you laid a bunch of them off.
Non compete clauses usually don’t stand up in court to my understanding because if they are written too broadly and judge will toss them and if they’re written with a ton of slack why have people sign on them.
If I recall, noncompetes are basically null and void under California law.
 

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Musks new butthurt: He's threatening to sue Zuck and Co, for copying Twitter, and stealing "trade secrets" (LMAO
🤣).




:rolleyes: The Ex employees ongoing obligations to Twitter. What about Twitters obligations to pay their severance?

Though maybe this is just more drama for their MMA cage match. ;)

Remember when founders and CEOs were pretty much Philosophy majors that spent much of their lives working their asses off with minimum or no wages to build the thing that a lot of people didn't think they could do, then ran their major companies rather quietly, making maybe 15-20x, at most, more than their lowest-paid employee and were still the wealthiest assholes in the country, and they basically built the things that work in this country, and still do?

Now they have been replaced by soulless, privileged thundercvnts with essentially zero talent or skills, the desire to be celebrities more than actually do anything useful, and make vastly more money than any human in history has ever had any rational right to have--for basically making pizza delivery apps.

These people are fucking useless. Best part is, they've created the next wave of "interesting times" and it really isn't going to be very pretty for them.
 
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They are also illegal in California (and Oklahoma).
Mostly illegal in MA too. I forgot the word but it is that they can easily be considered too broad and I have heard there must be proof of former employee is reveling previous company secrets vs using commonly known facts.
 
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Remember when founders and CEOs were pretty much Philosophy majors that spent much of their lives working their asses off with minimum or no wages to build the thing that a lot of people didn't think they could do, then ran their major companies rather quietly, making maybe 15-20x, at most, more than their lowest-paid employee and were still the wealthiest assholes in the country, and they basically built the things that work in this country, and still do?

Now they have been replaced by soulless, privileged thundercvnts with essentially zero talent or skills, the desire to be celebrities more than actually do anything useful, and make vastly more money than any human in history has ever had any rational right to have--for basically making pizza delivery apps.

These people are fucking useless. Best part is, they've created the next wave of "interesting times" and it really isn't going to be very pretty for them.
a year or so ago I did some inflation adjusted numbers for what was considered uber wealthy in the past. Those dudes like Hennery Ford and the Oil guy even the finance guy Charles Schwab(?) were paupers compared to today's uber wealthy.
 

Vic

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Early onset dementia? Mad cow disease? He is losing grip on reality. Cry harder biiiiiitch.
My pronouns is Bitchy/Musk
The con man is all out of cons.

Full self-driving is never going to turn your Tesla into an income-producing robotaxi, like Musk promised (repeatedly for years).

SpaceX isn't going to the moon, much less Mars, like Musk promised.

Starlink will never win against ground-based internet (not even in rural areas).

I could go on and on here.

The reason Musk bought twitter was because with all of his big lies coming due, he had to buy the media to control the narrative (and the political corruption that's kept him going this far).
 
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Remember when founders and CEOs were pretty much Philosophy majors that spent much of their lives working their asses off with minimum or no wages to build the thing that a lot of people didn't think they could do, then ran their major companies rather quietly, making maybe 15-20x, at most, more than their lowest-paid employee and were still the wealthiest assholes in the country, and they basically built the things that work in this country, and still do?

Now they have been replaced by soulless, privileged thundercvnts with essentially zero talent or skills, the desire to be celebrities more than actually do anything useful, and make vastly more money than any human in history has ever had any rational right to have--for basically making pizza delivery apps.

These people are fucking useless. Best part is, they've created the next wave of "interesting times" and it really isn't going to be very pretty for them.
I don't know about this. Henry Ford (for example) got filthy rich without even having to take Ford Motor public and he was a racist nazi-sympathizing antisemite (with his own newspaper dedicated to nazi-sympathizing antisemitism) who thought America gained its independence in 1812.
 
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Musk not happy...

Twitter is threatening to sue Meta over Threads

"In less than a day, Threads — which is aimed as a rival to Twitter — appears to have taken the crown as the most rapidly downloaded app ever. It easily outstripped ChatGPT, the chatbot, which was downloaded one million times within its first five days, according to OpenAI, ChatGPT’s maker. And it is on pace to exceed ChatGPT’s 100 million users within two months, which was the fastest to reach that number ever, according to the analytics firm Similarweb.

Some of Twitter’s most-followed users — such as Ellen DeGeneres, Bill Gates, Shakira and Oprah Winfrey — immediately joined Threads and began posting. The atmosphere was celebratory, with users writing welcome messages and expressing eagerness to read one another’s posts. At one point, the new app was so inundated with users that it appeared unstable..."

 
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cytg111

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The con man is all out of cons.

Full self-driving is never going to turn your Tesla into an income-producing robotaxi, like Musk promised (repeatedly for years).

SpaceX isn't going to the moon, much less Mars, like Musk promised.

Starlink will never win against ground-based internet (not even in rural areas).

I could go on and on here.

The reason Musk bought twitter was because with all of his big lies coming due, he had to buy the media to control the narrative (and the political corruption that's kept him going this far).
I disagree a little. I think Musk has realized that at this point SpaceX and Tesla operates better if he is not meddling. And now he craves the attention.
 
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I don't know about this. Henry Ford (for example) got filthy rich without even having to take Ford Motor public and he was a racist nazi-sympathizing antisemite (with his own newspaper dedicated to nazi-sympathizing antisemitism) who thought America gained its independence in 1812.

I think I've read two different biographies of Ford, and can't remember much about any of it.

What did stick in my mind was that he benefited greatly from inheriting a lot of forested land, that made it possible for him to support himself and his family by logging it while he got on with developing his ideas for automobiles - which struck me as indiciative of how important the availability of land was in the US - in Europe it was all already appropriated a very long time ago by the traditional aristocracy, and of course black Americans, thanks to slavery, missed out in the chance to grab any of it and never did get their "40 acres and a mule". But at least among white people, it was a little more evenly distributed among non-traditional-elites than it was in Europe (where even now it's largely all owned by a tiny traditional ruling class).

The other thing I remember was that the positives he gets regularly credited with - most notably the idea that he had to pay his workers well, because they were also his potential customers - were really the idea of one of his advisors and executives, and didn't represent his own beliefs at all.

Plus there was the crazy anti-Semitism.

In general his story struck me as quintessentially American, though. An example of how the idea of the "self made man" is both largely fictional, but also a little bit more true in the US than in Europe.
 
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Heartbreaker

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"Threads" is IMO, the first real threat to Twitter. I've been skeptical that even Elon Musk could destroy Twitter, unless the users had a clear alternate destination. "Threads" is a clear destination.

Zuckerberg, must be just laughing himself silly, because without Musk actively working so hard to destroy Twitter, he never could have pulled this off. Musk essentially paid 44 Billion to gift Twitter to Zuckerberg.

It can no doubt scale better than Twitter, and likely already shares a lot of the same user base, because "influencers" often blanket the social media space so many Twitter users will already have Instagram accounts, and many of the same followers, so they can essentially just activate their "Threads" account and much of the transition is done, even with much of their userbase.

Instagram is kind of the Trojan Horse that can let "Threads" eat Twitters lunch (bastardizing two idioms).

I really need more popcorn now...