Elon Musk now owns 9.2% of twitter...update.. will soon be the sole owner as Board of Directors accepts his purchase offer

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fskimospy

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Squirrel thinks all of Twitter can be run in a large 2BR apartment and overall barely needs any employees cause it's SO SO SIMPLE.

Also he thinks someone can come take over a big company, and without spending any real time to assess a damn thing and actually trim waste where needed, the better method is to just do massive sweeping cuts without any real data or studying at all.

Holy fuck.
Not to mention saddling it with additional debts requiring $1 billion in annual service.
 

Muse

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I'm for working from home, I've said it before I don't really agree 100% with how Elon does things. I just find it comical how people are butt hurt over it, because if it was any other person doing it, it would basically be "tough luck".
Musk didn't bother me until he announced his takeover bid for Twitter. I'm not into Twitter, have an account but never follow anybody or retweet, I only go there from links here, possibly from other places, don't know. Anyway, his going for Twitter ownership cameoed him as a serious dick-head. Before that he looked like a very successful entrepreneur. He's now outed himself and he'll never come close to the respect he used to enjoy. He basically destroyed his own image, self owned! Going forward he'll be a cautionary tale.
 

cytg111

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What does that even have to do with anything?

Twitter is not really that much more complicated than a forum. Sure it has to be designed to be scalable but that work is already done, it just needs to be maintained. You don't need 10,000 people to manage that. Their entire infrastructure probably fits in a small data centre like say, 2,000sqft or so. Maybe two in different geographical locations for redundancy. If they really wanted to downsize they'd have a couple IT techs at their data centre(s) for physical tasks and everyone else working from home, most of those jobs can easily be done from home.

These people were mostly just lounging around eating company food on company time and getting a bit of coding done in between. Place looks more like a daycare. It sucks, but it's not like it's the first time a company does mass layoffs when they see inefficiencies. People are just being butthurt because it's Elon doing it. If it was any other person people would just be saying "tough luck, guess they need to find another job".


Most of my "big brain" ideas and solutions, yes code too, is done when I am off work, doing something else. You want code monkeys or developers? You want someone taking dictation or someone who can think and work a problem? You want Z's or thinking soldiers.
 
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Muse

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Most of my "big brain" ideas and solutions, yes code too, is done when I am off work, doing something else. You want code monkeys or developers? You want someone taking dictation or someone who can think and work a problem? You want Z's or thinking soldiers.
Yeah, I've gotten a whole lot of my best programming ideas while doing something else, e.g. working out. I hatched some in the last week, have yet to take them to the keyboard.
 
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ch33zw1z

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I'm for working from home, I've said it before I don't really agree 100% with how Elon does things. I just find it comical how people are butt hurt over it, because if it was any other person doing it, it would basically be "tough luck".

thats 100% conjecture on your part.
 

Pens1566

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What does that even have to do with anything?

Twitter is not really that much more complicated than a forum. Sure it has to be designed to be scalable but that work is already done, it just needs to be maintained. You don't need 10,000 people to manage that. Their entire infrastructure probably fits in a small data centre like say, 2,000sqft or so. Maybe two in different geographical locations for redundancy. If they really wanted to downsize they'd have a couple IT techs at their data centre(s) for physical tasks and everyone else working from home, most of those jobs can easily be done from home.

These people were mostly just lounging around eating company food on company time and getting a bit of coding done in between. Place looks more like a daycare. It sucks, but it's not like it's the first time a company does mass layoffs when they see inefficiencies. People are just being butthurt because it's Elon doing it. If it was any other person people would just be saying "tough luck, guess they need to find another job".


That's a lot of text to say "I have no idea what I'm talking about".
 

nakedfrog

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What does that even have to do with anything?

Twitter is not really that much more complicated than a forum. Sure it has to be designed to be scalable but that work is already done, it just needs to be maintained. You don't need 10,000 people to manage that. Their entire infrastructure probably fits in a small data centre like say, 2,000sqft or so. Maybe two in different geographical locations for redundancy. If they really wanted to downsize they'd have a couple IT techs at their data centre(s) for physical tasks and everyone else working from home, most of those jobs can easily be done from home.

These people were mostly just lounging around eating company food on company time and getting a bit of coding done in between. Place looks more like a daycare. It sucks, but it's not like it's the first time a company does mass layoffs when they see inefficiencies. People are just being butthurt because it's Elon doing it. If it was any other person people would just be saying "tough luck, guess they need to find another job".

You are such a perfect example of the Dunning-Kruger effect, you always assume you have a greater understanding of something you know very little about than you actually have.
 

vi edit

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Instead of just a cheap low effort personal attack tell me what part I got wrong then? Did you ever code anything? And I'm talking something big. Anything under 1 million lines of code is just a hobby.

Have you ever dealt with 5 billion in marketing agreements, dealing with international privacy policy, SEC trading, and HR responsibilities?
 

brycejones

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and violating California's law that requires 60day notice for mass layoffs.
(why would any big company stay in CA??)

The WARN act (federal law) requires the same thing or appropriate severance. You can do mass layoffs with no notice just the severance package usually has to be adjusted to cover the notification period that was bypassd.
 
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ch33zw1z

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You are so dumb it makes my brain hurt. Yes, Twitter just needs 2,000 sq feet of space for all their infrastructure and it's a super simple operation. Oh lord, please get off the grid and help save the planet.


Twitter leasing an additional 80,000 sq ft in 2020 in Atlanta, to add to their 100,000 sq feet of space for infrastructure they already had, just in Atlanta


They also have at least another major data center in the Sacramento area.

Most people really have no idea what technology looks like behind the scenes.

It's really tough to explain, even to IT people that haven't really gotten a peek behind the curtain.
 

brycejones

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We should push for Squirrel to run the IT infrastructure for all future republican political campaigns. He knows his shit and would be the perfect person to not run anything into the ground for them.


Y'all come on down to RedSquirrel's IT shop for all your campaign IT needs. We believe everything in IT is so simple we'll assign one of our least experienced interns to handle all your needs.
 
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Pens1566

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Instead of just a cheap low effort personal attack tell me what part I got wrong then? Did you ever code anything? And I'm talking something big. Anything under 1 million lines of code is just a hobby.

Everything. All of it. You can't house twitter in a 2k sq ft data center. That wouldn't even be sufficient for power equipment. Let alone networking, storage.

And yes, I've spent my entire 25+ year professional career in developing 24/7 mission critical systems for DoD/DoJ/DHS. All the way from college grad/entry level developer to SME/Senior Staff/ChEng positions dealing with SES/DD level counterparts on gov side. I know what the fuck I'm talking about.
 

Zorba

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and violating California's law that requires 60day notice for mass layoffs.
(why would any big company stay in CA??)

so i'm thinking bankruptcy was his plan all along when he realized he has to buy twitter for $44B after his backing away plan failed when it dawned on him that he was an idiot for offering that obscene amount of $.

bankruptcy also gets him off the hook for:
- firing the CEO and 3 other top executives for 'cause' and not paying them their bonuses/severance
- paying back the ~22B that banks loaned him for the other half of his twitter purchase.
so basically he's only paying $22b for a toy that he plays with for a few months then throws away :eek:
There is a federal WARN law too, which is 45-days I believe: https://www.dol.gov/agencies/eta/layoffs/warn
 

MrSquished

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Instead of just a cheap low effort personal attack tell me what part I got wrong then? Did you ever code anything? And I'm talking something big. Anything under 1 million lines of code is just a hobby.

Why don't you respond to things such as the datacenter space for Twitter vs your 2,000 sq foot proposal, or the link about an engineer talking about all the layers and complexities of running the system. You always avoid evidence then just cry 'oh now someone hurt my feelings' - start to use facts and respond to facts and maybe people will take you seriously. Now I'm going to go use the women's bathroom since I'm forced to, because according to your own statement, that's what's happening in liberal America, like where I live.
 

uallas5

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Elon Musk:
"All employees must work in the office, no more remote"

Also Elon Musk:
"I'm ending lunch at the office because no one was there to eat it"

GENIUS!!!