Elon Musk now owns 9.2% of twitter...update.. will soon be the sole owner as Board of Directors accepts his purchase offer

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Heartbreaker

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This is a much bigger issue than Twitter/Elon but the whole "If you don't happily accept the massive change in the terms of your employment, you are quitting" thing needs to go away. If a company over night decides you have to move, or work vastly different hours, etc and you refuse, it should be a firing/layoff not a resignation.

Sounds like "Constructive Dismissal". This seems to be recognized in Canada for what it is.
 
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MrSquished

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Yes?

It overall sucks that so much is being wasted for literally nothing and thousands of lives upended for this though.

Yeah I mentioned this before. Really sucks for a shit ton of Twitter employees, of which I assume, MOST are good people. Really sucks.

Blame Elon for being such a piece of shit human, I mean he had to learn his lesson eventually, but when you have to take down super billionaires, they will always take a lot of collateral damage with them. I wish that fucker would just fade into the sunset without fucking with the lives of thousands. But that's how narcissist socipaths work. I hope a lot of people learn more about his kind from this, is the best hope we can have.
 

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Twitter had one office in Africa, it just closed the office and fired all the workers on 3 weeks notice and no severance. This is violation of the local labor laws so hopefully they can get something if the Ghanian gov't does something, but I kind of doubt it.

Twitter lays off staff at its only Africa office in Ghana - BBC News

Under local law laid-off staff must be paid redundancy and should be given three months notice, as opposed to under a month in the case of the Ghanaian employees who have been told the "last day of employment will be 4 December 2022".
 

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So far Elon has lost the execs that we know of today: head of trust & safety, head of sales, and the head of HR. Oh yeah the entire compliance department has also walked.
 
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Heartbreaker

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Yeah I mentioned this before. Really sucks for a shit ton of Twitter employees, of which I assume, MOST are good people. Really sucks.

Blame Elon for being such a piece of shit human, I mean he had to learn his lesson eventually, but when you have to take down super billionaires, they will always take a lot of collateral damage with them. I wish that fucker would just fade into the sunset without fucking with the lives of thousands. But that's how narcissist socipaths work. I hope a lot of people learn more about his kind from this, is the best hope we can have.

To learn a lesson, he would have to accept responsibility for this mess he created. The Trumps and Musks of the world always blame other people for their messes.
 

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To learn a lesson, he would have to accept responsibility for this mess he created. The Trumps and Musks of the world always blame other people for their messes.

This is true and most likely he will only blame others. But I think his brand becoming toxic and him literally losing tens of billions, will definitely make him feel like shit and make him less of a power player in our society. That's the one thing to be happy about.
 

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I think this is rapidly going to come to some sort of "conclusion". Hear me out ...

There are two realistic paths this could take. I say two because I've dismissed the "roll it all back to the way it was" path as that would take Musk admitting he was wrong and it'll never happen.

First, things get so bad and so much investor money gets set on fire that those bankrolling the purchase step in and either A) cash out or B) force some changes to try and save what little of their investment remains. For A, Elmo has to either get more $$$ from his Saudi pals (assuming they're not in the group that is complaining) to cover or sell more $TSLA to cover it himself. With B I'm not so sure he'd go along and that leads back to option A.

Second, no one steps in to change the ongoing descent into Myspace 2.0 and it's a race between them not being able to pay bills due to advertisers pulling out or Apple/Google pulling the apps from their respective stores due to violations of their hosting rules. Personally, I think the latter is more likely than the former but whatever.

I'd be shocked if something major along these lines doesn't occur by Xmas. And I wouldn't be surprised if it was as soon as the end of the month. Dude is in a world of trouble and he either doesn't know it, or he doesn't care/thinks he can wiggle out of it. Just so many problems and that doesn't count the possibility of 9+ figure FTC fines looming.
 

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Twitter meets office space
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As an aside, I don't get the hate that so many SWEs have for even hybrid office/home schedules.
I've worked full remote, office and so-called "hybrid", and full remote is just a terrible experience IMO.
I really love the office, I enjoy the people, I enjoy seeing my team members etc. I get that sometimes commute is hard, but even a day or two in the office makes a big difference for me.
 
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As an aside, I don't get the hate that so many SWEs have for even hybrid office/home schedules.
I've worked full remote, office and so-called "hybrid", and full remote is just a terrible experience IMO.
I really love the office, I enjoy the people, I enjoy seeing my team members etc. I get that sometimes commute is hard, but even a day or two in the office make a big difference for me.
Im full remote and I can see what you’re saying. It’s kinda cool, but a hybrid model would probably be pretty cool too. I think a full office model would suck tho
 
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As an aside, I don't get the hate that so many SWEs have for even hybrid office/home schedules.
I've worked full remote, office and so-called "hybrid", and full remote is just a terrible experience IMO.
I really love the office, I enjoy the people, I enjoy seeing my team members etc. I get that sometimes commute is hard, but even a day or two in the office make a big difference for me.
And I've done fully remote in an office-driven field, and I love it. No commute, I get to hang out with my dog who has major separation anxiety, and connectivity tools are good. I still go down to our NY office or big client meetings if I have to. I can see that it isn't for everyone, so the ideal situation should be to offer hybrid or remote to people instead of forcing people and pushing for presentee-ism.

In my field, allowing remote work really solves the two body problem that often arises with couples with advanced degrees, where one is tied to some academic track for a while.
 

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As an aside, I don't get the hate that so many SWEs have for even hybrid office/home schedules.
I've worked full remote, office and so-called "hybrid", and full remote is just a terrible experience IMO.
I really love the office, I enjoy the people, I enjoy seeing my team members etc. I get that sometimes commute is hard, but even a day or two in the office makes a big difference for me.

I'm hybrid now as well and it's perfect. 20 hours a week in the office, the rest at home or on appointments. Really enjoying the office time, and it's the right amount. Brought my dog in today for the first time at this firm. Was fantastic.

Also while we work we learn from each other, we hear each other working and pick up things, it's social, it's a change of scenery. You just need a good crew that's working for it to be a positive experience.
 
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