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Thebobo

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Why woudl this sting? We live in an era where trump is president. What moral authority does any of her rivals have over her?

Yea no shit, but they will, the fox evening assholes will be all over this. They been implanting socialism = horrible last couple weeks and now ..
 

JSt0rm

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Doesn't matter. The GOP is a collection of self-loathing, never-held-any-type-of-job racists that gleefully refuse to hold themselves to the hilarious standards that they demand of their opposition--and the mewling, poorly-educated twats that make up their base unquestioningly go along with it.

good point
 

Starbuck1975

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I could care less. She in not endangering the country like Trump is every day. It's all misdirection. The #1 important thing imo it to take down trump and his little nazi pitbull Stephen Millier any way possible .
To take down Trump, you need a candidate to beat Trump. Hard to defeat Trump when you’re too busy tending to self-inflicted wounds. Have you learned nothing from 2016?
 
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JSt0rm

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To take down Trump, you need a candidate to beat Trump. Hard to defeat Trump when you’re too busy tending to self-inflicted wounds. Have you learned nothing from 2016?

Like this trivial shit matters. Its just used to try and kill peoples chances. We shouldt care about this stuff. We should care about how good someone would govern the country.
 

ivwshane

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To take down Trump, you need a candidate to beat Trump. Hard to defeat Trump when you’re too busy tending to self-inflicted wounds. Have you learned nothing from 2016?

Lol! Yes Hillary's wounds were all self inflicted. My God you are an idiot. It's like you don't remember the faux benghazi investigation whose sole purpose was to discredit Hillary and the eight investigations that followed it.

Man, Republicans must love your types!
 

Thebobo

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To take down Trump, you need a candidate to beat Trump. Hard to defeat Trump when you’re too busy tending to self-inflicted wounds. Have you learned nothing from 2016?

Have I learned nothing? I don't have any control over the station so no matter what i learned means squat.
 

JSt0rm

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Lol! Yes Hillary's wounds were all self inflicted. My God you are an idiot. It's like you don't remember the faux benghazi investigation whose sole purpose was to discredit Hillary and the eight investigations that followed it.

Man, Republicans must love your types!

buttery males...
 

Blackjack200

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Like this trivial shit matters. Its just used to try and kill peoples chances. We shouldt care about this stuff. We should care about how good someone would govern the country.

I mean, I think we should care about it. It's a dumb unforced error by Warren, and it's insulting to the Cherokee. I'm glad she apologized for it, but I think it took way too long.

All that said, if you think it's going to sink her presidential bid of even seriously hurt her, you've been living in sack of amniotic fluid for the last 3 years.
 
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ivwshane

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I mean, I think we should care about it. It's a dumb unforced error by Warren, and it's insulting to the Cherokee. I'm glad she apologized for it, but I think it took way too long.

All that said, if you think it's going to sink her presidential bid of even seriously hurt her, you've been living in sack of amniotic fluid for the last 3 years.

Why should we be concerned with this?
 

Jaskalas

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Why woudl this sting? We live in an era where trump is president. What moral authority does any of her rivals have over her?

I hear from more than one person here that nothing matters, because Trump is President. While I agree that we feel that way, the rest of the nation might not. The latest information appears to confirm Warren's misuse of this subject. I believe it will sting with some voters. It is the cornerstone of building up a greater false narrative around Warren. The weak spot from which to pummel.

You can say it doesn't matter, but it is not Democrats we have to convince in the general election.
 

realibrad

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Since you seem to know me better than I do and you'll end up arguing against a straw man anyway, why don't you just answer the question?

Why would me pointing out that you are in this forum for the same reason mean that I know you better than you know yourself?

People like to talk about things. Sometimes those things are important, sometimes they are not.
 

DrunkenSano

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To me this is a non-issue, just like if someone is gay, trans, or whatever, that is a non-issue on who I would vote for. What I value is what their message is, how strong they are going to be on our economic issues, trade policies, etc. Whether they are 1% American Indian, 5% American Indian, if she identified as an American Indian, that does not matter.
 
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realibrad

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To me this is a non-issue, just like if someone is gay, trans, or whatever, that is a non-issue on who I would vote for. What I value is what their message is, how strong they are going to be on our economic issues, trade policies, etc. Whether they are 1% American Indian, 5% American Indian, if she identified as an American Indian, that does not matter.

Perhaps heritage and lineage do not matter to you, but, they matter to a great many on both sides. One side takes the position that heritage and lineage lend to the inherent values of the country. The other side thinks that heritage and lineage give insight and differences in thinking that lend to creative solutions.

If you do not think heritage and lineage matter, then you are in the minority.
 

ivwshane

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Perhaps heritage and lineage do not matter to you, but, they matter to a great many on both sides. One side takes the position that heritage and lineage lend to the inherent values of the country. The other side thinks that heritage and lineage give insight and differences in thinking that lend to creative solutions.

If you do not think heritage and lineage matter, then you are in the minority.

More feels from your ass, right? Or did you have something factual to back up this claim?
 

ivwshane

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Why would me pointing out that you are in this forum for the same reason mean that I know you better than you know yourself?

People like to talk about things. Sometimes those things are important, sometimes they are not.

You just claimed we should be concerned for the same reasons I'm in this thread. I'd imagine you know why I'm in this thread otherwise you wouldn't have said such a stupid thing. So now I'm asking you what that reason is.

How many pages of you being a little troll bitch will this discussion go? 2? 4?
 

realibrad

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More feels from your ass, right? Or did you have something factual to back up this claim?

Are you arguing against what I just said? I suppose you totally ignore that the foundation of conservatism is that you hold to current morals while devaluing new ideas. That is in juxtaposition to the other side which values new ideas while casting away the old.

Are you really wanting me to validate that? Did you not understand what was said and made a post?
 

realibrad

Lifer
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You just claimed we should be concerned for the same reasons I'm in this thread. I'd imagine you know why I'm in this thread otherwise you wouldn't have said such a stupid thing. So now I'm asking you what that reason is.

How many pages of you being a little troll bitch will this discussion go? 2? 4?

You asked why people should care. I responded by saying people like talking and that is why. I also said its the same reason you come into this forum to talk politics. How is that trolling?
 

ivwshane

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Are you arguing against what I just said? I suppose you totally ignore that the foundation of conservatism is that you hold to current morals while devaluing new ideas. That is in juxtaposition to the other side which values new ideas while casting away the old.

Are you really wanting me to validate that? Did you not understand what was said and made a post?

No you stupid fuck, I'm asking where you pulled your claims from. I've never seen "sides" to this issue nor have I ever seen polling to indicate there is some sort of consensus on this.

But I get it, you pulled it from your ass.
 

ivwshane

Lifer
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You asked why people should care. I responded by saying people like talking and that is why. I also said its the same reason you come into this forum to talk politics. How is that trolling?

Oh is that what you said because it sure as shit isn't what you wrote.
 

realibrad

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No you stupid fuck, I'm asking where you pulled your claims from. I've never seen "sides" to this issue nor have I ever seen polling to indicate there is some sort of consensus on this.

But I get it, you pulled it from your ass.

Consensus on heritage and lineage? Ill take it that you don't understand what you are reading. If you did, then how could you claim the Right is largely racist and not think that heritage and lineage matter to them.

Do you know what is being discussed?
 

ivwshane

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"People like to talk about things. Sometimes those things are important, sometimes they are not."

Its right there sir.

So we should be concerned about it because we are talking about it?
Brilliant logic right there!
 

realibrad

Lifer
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So we should be concerned about it because we are talking about it?
Brilliant logic right there!

No, people like things and that is why you are here. I presented it as information rather than a justification for why to care. Is that really that hard to understand? I thought it was very simple and obvious.

Then again, you also took issue with the foundation of conservatism and asked me to data backing it up. How strange was that eh?