Electronic Voting Machines Switch Votes For Obama To McCain

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DAPUNISHER

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Originally posted by: dmcowen674
Originally posted by: Dari
If Obama loses and there is a whiff of cheating, I don't think Americans will sit idly by.

What do you think they will do?
Voice their displeasure on the internet. Anything else would require too much energy.

 

Stiganator

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Is it really hard to write this code or something like it?

#include <stdio.h>
#include GenVarName.h
#include iostream.h

void CountVotes()
{
String VoterSelection, InputCandidate;
global long ObamaCount, McCainCount;

getline (cin,VoterSelection);

if(strcmp(VoterSelection, "McCain")==0)
{
McCainCount++;
}
elseif(strcmp(VoterSelection, "Obama")==0)
{
ObamaCount++;
}
elseif(strcmp(VoterSelection, "McCain")!=0 && strcmp(VoterSelection, "Obama")!=0)
{
cout<<"Please Type in the name of your candidate: ";
GenVarName(VoterSelection, "Count", Long, global, increment);
}
}
 

Kirby

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Originally posted by: Stiganator
Is it really hard to write this code or something like it?

#include <stdio.h>
#include GenVarName.h
#include iostream.h

void CountVotes()
{
String VoterSelection, InputCandidate;
global long ObamaCount, McCainCount;

getline (cin,VoterSelection);

if(strcmp(VoterSelection, "McCain")==0)
{
McCainCount++;
}
elseif(strcmp(VoterSelection, "Obama")==0)
{
ObamaCount++ <--- Syntax error
}
elseif(strcmp(VoterSelection, "McCain")!=0 && strcmp(VoterSelection, "Obama")!=0)
{
cout<<"Please Type in the name of your candidate: ";
GenVarName(VoterSelection, "Count", Long, global, increment);
}
}

Apparently so. :p
 

Skitzer

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Originally posted by: Dari
If Obama loses and there is a whiff of cheating, I don't think Americans will sit idly by.

There is already a "whiff" of cheating by both sides ....... they will balance out, No?
 

Puffnstuff

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I prefer the optiscan method which generates a paper trail. Here in FL the ballot is registered to the voter so you know what belongs to who in case of a problem. Any machine that doesn't offer any type of receipt should not be used. Why can you go to walmart and buy a pack of gum and get a receipt but when exercising your right to vote you cannot? Doesn't make sense to me unless you want a loophole in the system to conduct fraud.

I'm also for requiring picture ID when going to vote to further minimize fraud. I'm also for some kind of positive verification for people voting via absentee ballot like contacting them to insure that they did request one. I vote this way but would be upset if mine were intercepted and used fraudulently.
 

tfcmasta97

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Didnt you read the news? Bush changed the amendment so they can correct your very wrong vote.

dont tell me you're surprised, his cousin helped him out in Florida before he even got into office
 

smack Down

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Originally posted by: Puffnstuff
I prefer the optiscan method which generates a paper trail. Here in FL the ballot is registered to the voter so you know what belongs to who in case of a problem. Any machine that doesn't offer any type of receipt should not be used. Why can you go to walmart and buy a pack of gum and get a receipt but when exercising your right to vote you cannot? Doesn't make sense to me unless you want a loophole in the system to conduct fraud.

I'm also for requiring picture ID when going to vote to further minimize fraud. I'm also for some kind of positive verification for people voting via absentee ballot like contacting them to insure that they did request one. I vote this way but would be upset if mine were intercepted and used fraudulently.

You don't want a receipt for your vote. It is useless except bribing/blackmailing people.
 

Engineer

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Originally posted by: dualsmp
West Virginia Vote Flipping Caught on Tape
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Q9NSVUu8nk

"I consider it completely unimportant who in the party will vote, or how; but what is extraordinarily important is this?who will count the votes, and how." --Joseph Stalin

That video shows the biggest crock of shit of hardware that I've seen in 20 years. Working in industrial automation, we use touch screens for over 10 years and they never get out of calibration. We have used industrial PC's with touchscreen interfaces and they simply work, period. I don't care what side you're on, if you are not outraged at this, you're turning a blind eye a problem that should not be.

I just can't believe what I was watching. I wonder if by calibration if he means dumping the "clean" program in. What a crock of shit.
 

dennilfloss

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Put X in appropriate circle on paper ballot. Fold as instructed, then give to voting official who removes tag and puts ballot in box. Works for old people here.

Have one person from each party witness the counting for each poll. Simple enough. Large population? Just multiply the number of polling stations. Since all the counting is done in parallel, you could know the results in a couple of hours whether there are 33 million voters or 330 million voters. And all the ballots remain for possible judicial recounts. More costs? Not really as the people doing and witnessing the counting are volunteers.
 

Specop 007

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Originally posted by: Dari
If Obama loses and there is a whiff of cheating, I don't think Americans will sit idly by.

LOL, as opposed to the dead people that voted?

Both sides cheat. They cheat their asses off. one side cheats better. Which side that is I wont pretend to know, however to think that suddenly one side should be all up in arms for doing essentially the same shit as the other is pretty shallow and ridiculous.
 

bamacre

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Originally posted by: Engineer
Originally posted by: dualsmp
West Virginia Vote Flipping Caught on Tape
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Q9NSVUu8nk

"I consider it completely unimportant who in the party will vote, or how; but what is extraordinarily important is this?who will count the votes, and how." --Joseph Stalin

That video shows the biggest crock of shit of hardware that I've seen in 20 years. Working in industrial automation, we use touch screens for over 10 years and they never get out of calibration. We have used industrial PC's with touchscreen interfaces and they simply work, period. I don't care what side you're on, if you are not outraged at this, you're turning a blind eye a problem that should not be.

I just can't believe what I was watching. I wonder if by calibration if he means dumping the "clean" program in. What a crock of shit.


Totally agree. And anyone who has done any kind of programming knows how easy it should be for these machines to keep vote totals accurate.

This is NOT a problem of incompetence. But something much more sinister.
 

PokerGuy

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Originally posted by: bamacre
This is NOT a problem of incompetence. But something much more sinister.

If it results in my guy winning, then it's not a big deal. If the other guy wins, it's an outrage! ;)
 

Mxylplyx

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So based off of 3 peoples claims, it's now a conspiracy?

As much as I despise Republicans lately, I really wish dems would shut the fuck up about voter fraud everywhere, just because they lost a few elections. I'm sure dems will turn a blind eye to voting irregularities when their candidate wins this round, and call Repubs sore losers if they present the same arguments. Voting glitches are inevitable in any election, and these glitches have no bias. Unless there is proof of systemic voter fraud, which wouldnt be hard to find if it actually occurred, please stfu and accept the results. Also, lets not forget, we are left with these shitty touch screen voting machines because dems wanted to blame Gore's 2000 loss on something other than Gore, and therefore invented a problem in Florida. If Ohio came down to the wire instead of Florida, the same bullshit would have been conjured up there. Democrats have written election fraud claims into their own playbooks, and the shit needs to stop.
 

BigDH01

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Originally posted by: dualsmp
West Virginia Vote Flipping Caught on Tape
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Q9NSVUu8nk

"I consider it completely unimportant who in the party will vote, or how; but what is extraordinarily important is this?who will count the votes, and how." --Joseph Stalin

That was hilarious. Before calibration, he clicks on straight Democrat and it registers John McCain. He then calibrates the machine and the straight Democrat ticket works but the straight Republican registers a vote for Nader. Then he says, "It's out of calibration."

Who the hell is designing these things?
 

FuzzyBee

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Originally posted by: Engineer
Originally posted by: dualsmp
West Virginia Vote Flipping Caught on Tape
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Q9NSVUu8nk

"I consider it completely unimportant who in the party will vote, or how; but what is extraordinarily important is this?who will count the votes, and how." --Joseph Stalin

That video shows the biggest crock of shit of hardware that I've seen in 20 years. Working in industrial automation, we use touch screens for over 10 years and they never get out of calibration. We have used industrial PC's with touchscreen interfaces and they simply work, period. I don't care what side you're on, if you are not outraged at this, you're turning a blind eye a problem that should not be.

I just can't believe what I was watching. I wonder if by calibration if he means dumping the "clean" program in. What a crock of shit.

Funny. I work in a business where we use touchscreen interface, and occasionally, they *do* go out of alignment and need to be recalculated. I have no idea if that's what happened here or not - just pointing out that perhaps you don't know everything about touchscreens.